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I highly doubt that will work. A scum will shoot first; in fact town must take control of it.
Koshi knows this but won't tell why. He is either lazy or scum; wifom.
He then adds that if the shooter misses, they should die. Why?
If we don't take control of the shot, then it has merit to do that; shot wil be used by scum and land on town.
But this doesn't take into account bad town wifom; scumkoshi could say that, wait for a derp town to miss, and then get a free ML target to afk onto.
Yet here is why we should TAKE CONTROL OF THE SHOT; NOT RELINQUISH IT, NOT RANDO SHOOT.
Either way you relinquish it is bad; town loses KP to direct toward scum, and scum gets the possibility of counting on wifom and using it.
Also, opens up possibility of derp hero mindset townie using it poorly AND getting ml.
Whereas, if we unofficially vote on a kill that someone shoots at say, IML style or something, at least we get info from it and are more likely to ACTUALLY hit scum.
Anyone who shoots outside the vote, Koshi rule applies.
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On March 03 2015 09:22 rsoultin wrote:
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I'm cool with an HtS shot.
Also, Breshke's/Tube's idea is pretty good. Does anyone think we should vote for a shooter, too?
And that is a fast summary of my post.
Anyone who suggests otherwise should be strongly considered for the shot.
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On March 03 2015 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 09:22 rsoultin wrote:
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I'm cool with an HtS shot.
Also, Breshke's/Tube's idea is pretty good. Does anyone think we should vote for a shooter, too? I'm unclear on what voting for a shooter accomplishes.
Normalizing an otherwise very scum favored lynch form.
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On March 03 2015 09:27 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 09:23 Alakaslam wrote:
I highly doubt that will work. A scum will shoot first; in fact town must take control of it.
Koshi knows this but won't tell why. He is either lazy or scum; wifom.
He then adds that if the shooter misses, they should die. Why?
If we don't take control of the shot, then it has merit to do that; shot wil be used by scum and land on town.
But this doesn't take into account bad town wifom; scumkoshi could say that, wait for a derp town to miss, and then get a free ML target to afk onto.
Yet here is why we should TAKE CONTROL OF THE SHOT; NOT RELINQUISH IT, NOT RANDO SHOOT.
Either way you relinquish it is bad; town loses KP to direct toward scum, and scum gets the possibility of counting on wifom and using it.
Also, opens up possibility of derp hero mindset townie using it poorly AND getting ml.
Whereas, if we unofficially vote on a kill that someone shoots at say, IML style or something, at least we get info from it and are more likely to ACTUALLY hit scum.
Anyone who shoots outside the vote, Koshi rule applies. I agree with this. I think we need to have it decided before the 24 hour mark who we are going to shoot and then anyone that is around just sends it in because it doesn't matter who shoots just that the target who is selected gets shot. This also needs to all be done before the shoot deadline opens or whatever because obviously nothing is stopping the person who is going to be shot (town or mafia) from just shooting someone else to save themselves which gives considerably less information
If that person were town, they should defend themselves and make reads versus such poor play because they would surely die next cycle.
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On March 03 2015 09:27 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 09:21 Damdred wrote:
How was it making RS look bad? I'm not exactly following what you mean? I find it odd, if not scummy how Slam gets from "I don't care if you shoot Onegu" to "not being concerned who I shoot" as if he's making her look worse than what she's trying to convey. I could understand for example if he disagrees with an Onegu scumread but that's not how it read. It's one post, and generally Slam posts don't jump out at me like that.
This can be applied to your own reaction just as effectively.
I find it odd, if not scummy how HTS gets from my post to "making it seem worse than it was" without asking anything about slam's knowledge of rsoul' prior posts ("have you been reading?") versus, say, pointing out how absolutely scummy the whole carrying on was- Damdred and rsoul effectively egging slam on to an insane, scummy behavior.
Like I could understand if she says he is scummy for TRYING TO RNG A DAYSHOT but for suspecting those egging him on to it?
It's a few posts, and generally HTS posts don't jump out like that.
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On March 03 2015 09:38 sicklucker wrote:
Also making this a normal lynch is pointless someones gonna yolo. This is tl mafia...
Propagating this sentiment sure won't help.
If someone yolo shoots, they will be playing very poorly or hitting mafia.
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There is no particular shooting deadline. Anyone could shoot at any time.
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On March 03 2015 09:43 Breshke wrote:
Okay I am understanding this town read on slam now also i see how he is being really helpful.
I also think tube is town not just for being the first to suggest the vote system but for actually compiling the votes and promising to do so again in the future. Feels like too much work for mafia.
That is absolutely wifom. Scum can work as hard as they please.
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On March 03 2015 10:00 geript wrote:
I'm not voting to shoot someone. Unless this ear infection turns into Ebola overnight, I will be shooting someone. It's a matter of figuring out who's the best shot.
Why you versus any vet?
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On March 03 2015 15:10 AT.Epiphany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 15:07 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:
Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.
It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.
1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.
2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.
3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.
4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).
Ok so let's talk meta. Every single time I've been mafia I've been far more confrontational? What games ahve I been mafia in? Have I never as town pushed multiple lynch targets at the same time? Like your meta of me is really, really fucking off. Explain your shit or die. Becuase I'm not going to get fucking mislynched again because some fucking scrub from some fucking scrubass site comes into my house and tries to lynch me. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SHITFACE. I'm not going to take being insulted by you just because I'm new to a site. You better behave with respect you prick. You started absuing me from the first post, and I'm not gonna stand and take it. The forum doesn't belong to you.
Therefore, nuke LS
Welcome to TL
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Ssons of BUTTHIJOLE
Go forth and see that California goes to sleep at 5
HIIIIIIJOLE VATO WEI
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Wait.
I have been gone a really long time, how did we decide on this shot?
Did rayn act on behalf of the consensus?
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On March 04 2015 08:25 Breshke wrote:
That's a shame.
I think batsnacks would have been a good shot aswell for all its worth
as well?
How was shooting town a good shot? Was momma that destructive? Hiiiiiiiijole!
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On March 04 2015 08:32 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Wait.
I have been gone a really long time, how did we decide on this shot?
Did rayn act on behalf of the consensus? Do you see anyone's eyes yet?
To be absent is to be blind. I have a steak in my mouth.
Many things can come from catchup but I have learned I suck at that; I will be present and learn from active speech.
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Well
So here is something.
Let's say I am scum! What's the case? Imma knock out priority 1 express style
Come at me bro I have chicken
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On March 04 2015 08:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:36 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 04 2015 08:35 rsoultin wrote:
Your Mom? His reads weren't impressive, which was part of the problem.
Filter, Breshke -shoos- Seriously? Nobody thinks rasputin is scum? Why don't you tell me why you think I'm scum, FF
A fite!
Here never mind me, let us /obs this one
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On March 04 2015 08:41 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:38 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2015 08:32 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 04 2015 08:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Wait.
I have been gone a really long time, how did we decide on this shot?
Did rayn act on behalf of the consensus? Do you see anyone's eyes yet? To be absent is to be blind. I have a steak in my mouth. Many things can come from catchup but I have learned I suck at that; I will be present and learn from active speech. The last time you spoke of catching up, and the tribulations it brings you, you were scum. What do you think of what you have read? Finish your steak and tell me what you see, if anything. Even the blind have ways to see the world.
The steak is Australian and good though. It is to be relished.
Indeed I have a better idea of what is going on there, I think.
Here, I am trying to remember what I was thinking back when I was here with the wind man, he spake as I did
Indeed much like the Templar; "You think as I Do" comes to mind
So also there was breshke I think? With similar wisdom.
Rayn and Koshi hated my wisdom for the sake of the wifom that rayn himself might have perpetrated, but, it seems not many were in disagreement?
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