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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 18 2015 16:12 GMT
#22
Think I'll give this a go.

/in
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 21:14 GMT
#119
Greetings everyone!

Reading through, I've not played a game with Marv so I'm not familiar as to how he plays as scum. I find it interesting though that when the pressure votes are on, he posts a few things on Artanis' story. (Why?)

HF, on VA, I agree with you as to why he is looking bad. However, last game with Vayne, I voted him for being completely useless not helping us solve the game and Batsnacks told me that his D1 meta is basically dicking around and not caring. He was lynched and flipped town.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 21:22 GMT
#125
Kelsier, I would say town.

I agree Oats looks bad, think him going to sleep looks like it's his excuse for not expanding on what he said on Damdred.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 21:23 GMT
#128
EBWOP - Voted Oats.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 21:34 GMT
#135
On January 20 2015 06:23 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't think it looks bad

He needed to sleep right,


You could say the same thing on Lian, who also needed to sleep. AFAIK, they are both in Asia time zones. Lian posted ~2h before the game started, but the difference is that Oats actually commented on something relevant in the game and didn't give an explanation. He didn't have to write a novel, just a sentence would have done.

Which also begs the question why Vivax wanted to vote Lian.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 21:39 GMT
#140
On January 20 2015 06:22 sicklucker wrote:
Hts its so no secret that marv doesint want to play scum. His last 3 games all mafia. In the first two he gave up on day 1. His most recent one being a 600 page marathon. After that game is over theres no way hes gonna try if he rolled mafia again. So thats why we all vote marv and see what happens.


IMO, this is speculative. I think a judgment is better made on him closer to the end of D1. A Marv vote closer to the end would make sense if the posts on Artanis' story were the only ones he'd done, end of.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 21:54 GMT
#147
On January 20 2015 06:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Did you think what Dam said was good?


What he said in opening made sense, but I'm more curious to know why he commented on vetting Marv's alignment and just a minute later, Marv is in thread to comment on Artanis' story, but Dam doesn't appear to push him on it even though he talks on the story.

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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 22:16 GMT
#156
What do people think of Vivax?

I don't like his reason for suggesting to vote Lian esp when Lian posted well before the game started (and Artanis said he couldn't post anything but popcorn).
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 22:18 GMT
#157
Marv, my expectation is that you would have responded to Damdred/Vivax and the pressure votes, one way or another.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 23:45 GMT
#195
On January 20 2015 08:37 liancourt wrote:
Did sl even post?


Lian, are you not reading? He started posting on page 5 and through page 8.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2015 23:51 GMT
#196
On January 20 2015 07:20 marvellosity wrote:
Ok, so what do you make of it? Or is it just "interesting" in a vacuum...


You looked bad to me at that point because Damdred said (page 5) you'd be yelling lots and your initial reaction only supported his earlier statement that if you didn't care, you were likely mafia.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 00:01 GMT
#203
On January 20 2015 08:57 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
He looked bad to you because he did not yell after a few pressure votes? Ok...
Does he still look bad to you?


He didn't have to yell per se, but he didn't address it. Right now, no.
I'm going to wait and see if he does anything else, since I'm not familiar with his town meta.

Right now, SL isn't looking good to me either but it's not for lack of posting, he says he has no scum target, but I'm not sure why he's not trying to find one.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 00:02 GMT
#204
HF and Damdred, can both of you elaborate how Marv plays when he IS town? Does he post a lot, is he emotional, etc?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 12:21 GMT
#383
On January 20 2015 21:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 21:13 marvellosity wrote:
You're the one that keeps bringing it up to push me, shouldn't you know?


Unless it got deleted for some reason I will have to find it in my filter


Top of page 13, unfiltered.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 13:26 GMT
#455
Went through Vivax's case, and several of the points are weak.

I don't understand the Lian townread and HF scumread, I don't understand what behaviours make HF scum from what I've seen so far. Lian jumped from scumreading SL without an explanation and then a gut read on Geript (now Slam) because he was replacing out.

HF wasn't ignoring Marv. I think this appears taken out of context. Even HF said "undecided as of yet."

Too many associative reads this early, just isn't good.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 13:26 GMT
#456
Lian townread Vivax as well....did he even read what Vivax presented?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 13:33 GMT
#472
On January 20 2015 22:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 22:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Lian townread Vivax as well....did he even read what Vivax presented?

lian townread Vivax before the main Vivax-vomit.


Thought he was still in thread, but guess not, since Vivax's stuff was about 10 minutes afterwards.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 13:37 GMT
#473
Wile, Vivax looks scummy to me because he appears to be overreaching on his case.

Lian also looks bad because he appears to be jumping from person to person. He's jumped from scumreading SL, to scumreading Geript for replacing out, and didn't specify why he thinks Vivax is town.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 13:43 GMT
#474
Kels, not sure if you're still in thread, but you said earlier you wanted to talk on Lian. Your thoughts on him?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 14:28 GMT
#525
On January 20 2015 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
it's ok, Oats, 2 players who are far stronger than you agree on a read.

so bm.

im not convinced on HF, all his posts so far have not been really thought out.
Like he comes in and comments on the latest thing.


You sure about this, Oats? What did you think about his push on Wile?
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