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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 16:19 GMT
#2086
VA, if you feel strongly about Bats, why are you sheeping the vote on me?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 16:19 GMT
#2087
EBWOP - Or Slam, or anyone else for that matter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 16:23 GMT
#2096
On January 24 2015 01:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 01:19 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - Or Slam, or anyone else for that matter.

What?

I am voting SL I can't answer that question


That was directed at VA - why vote me when you and Bats are on his scumlist.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 16:25 GMT
#2098
Koshi, still working through Wile's 12-page filter as I take a phone call here.

First impression through page 3 - a lot of sarcasm, but I take that as a tone read, tone reads are weak for a player that I've not played with before (to my knowledge, though he is a smurf). So his tone to me is NAI.

He's flinging a lot of comments around though, and that alone makes me think he's scum because he's trying to clutter things up.

Later on he does push people, so I need to look more into that to get something more conclusive.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 16:26 GMT
#2099
I'm not finished on Wile, so I will continue once I'm off this call.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 16:57 GMT
#2108
Off the call. Headed home from the office.

Will continue looking into Wile over dinner. At page 6, and I'm seeing a lot of the same. 50% editorial comments, 50% questions trying to gather information.

There's an indication through page 6 he might have one scumread, but I'm not following what his scumreads are through page 6. To be continued...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 17:04 GMT
#2112
On January 24 2015 01:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Koshi is playing to sarcastic convenience.


Whilst being at it, can you please explain? He looks to me he's trying to solve the game. His standard of asking questions was much like how he asked in Carol.

You're voting him on a tone read?

I'm not a native English speaker so it might be a weakness on my end. But I am not interpreting any malicious intent from anything Koshi is saying.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 17:06 GMT
#2113
EBWOP - nvm you said OMGUS. But then you say sarcastic convenience...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 18:23 GMT
#2132
Back in thread. Koshi, continuing onto Wile's filter.

First sign of trouble/scumlike behaviour - he's saying push Sicklucker (page 6 of filter) and then he suggests a list of people on a scum basis that does NOT include Sicklucker though he thinks it's debatable on him getting lynched. (Note that he says VA is policy, so everyone else he's scumreading)

On January 22 2015 06:02 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I still have no idea why you don't want to lynch Sicklucker. Am I dumb?


On January 22 2015 06:15 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 06:12 sicklucker wrote:
Wile in this world we live in im not getting lynched. So who do you lynch next?

Debatable.
I would probably lynch one of these people then: VA/HTS/Lian/Oats/Damdred. Although VA would basically be a policy lynch.


Now, from what I can see he's made no mention of myself/Lian/Oats/Damdred prior to page six of his filter.

On page 7, HF pushes me, and then Wile says this:

On January 22 2015 07:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
we vote hts because we vote on mafia, it's just what town people do!

That's fine. But you need to show me why she is mafia first.


So Wile puts me on a scumlist and wants HF to explain why I'm mafia. I would expect this if Wile is scumreading HF, but from the quoted on page 6, he's not. HF wasn't in his scumlist.

Post-lynch, it would have gone a long way to see VCA from him, but he didn't do this.

This guy could very possibly be the scum on the D1 Sicklucker wagon if there is one.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 18:23 GMT
#2133
Going to dig deeper on Wile...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 18:31 GMT
#2143
Wile is JAT? Never played with him, so I have nil on a meta read.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 18:51 GMT
#2164
On January 24 2015 03:49 Koshi wrote:
HTS scum. Hmm. Somewhere I remember playing a game with her. But I don't remember her at all.

I am going to be sad if Vivax is scum.


Carol. You were NKed N1.

What do you think of Vivax sheeping you and then calling you scum for voting Lian?

Looking into SL and Damdred atm...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 23 2015 20:11 GMT
#2183
I'm out for date night. Brutal week at work calls for wine, chocolate fondue and the like. Huzzah!

So far, Damdred is looking mostly okay through D1 lynch, though I find his VCA confusing, and I'm going to look into that further when I return. I'm also trying to sort out where his read of Lian changed before he started pushing Slam and Oats, because I thought he was scumreading Lian (and I'd scumread him for that prior to pushing Slam and Oats).

Damdred is showing a bit of apathy in this game. However, I am cohosting the other game he is in. He is showing some apathy in that game too. I am assuming maybe he's just bored in general, so I am considering this attitude for now, NAI.

JAT is looking bad to me as it stands, disregarding meta of course as I've never played with him.

If another veteran can elaborate on how a mafia JAT plays, I'd appreciate it.

And of course, I need to take yet another look at Sicklucker...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 24 2015 14:47 GMT
#2227
Headed to a Pilates class and will continue here when I return.

My top lynch list at this point, will continue researching though:

1 JAT
2 Oats
3 VA

I'll just do it now actually. If further research warrants a change, will change with explanation.

##unvote
##vote JAT
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 24 2015 14:48 GMT
#2228
EBWOP - Er, yeah.

##unvote
##vote Wile


The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 24 2015 14:58 GMT
#2231
On January 24 2015 23:53 Koshi wrote:
I will lynch you with regret.


Not your fault. 4 of them AFK voted, 3 sheep voted and a 5th doesn't seem to give a shit from what I'm reading.

I'm pretty infuriated as to why people are playing like this, regardless of whom is getting lynched.

Kelsier and SL are the only two that are appearing to actually scumread me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 24 2015 14:59 GMT
#2232
EBWOP - And I still find Vivax's VCA extremely confusing. I don't buy 3 mafia on one wagon. I'm sorry I don't.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 24 2015 18:34 GMT
#2280
On January 25 2015 03:03 Koshi wrote:
HTS,

Why did you ignore SL completely when he made that case on you?
Instead you put him in a scumlist because he didn't scumhunt?

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 21 2015 01:31 Half the Sky wrote:
SL - in general, not scum hunting
Lian - he called out SL, but then tried to scumread Geript for replacing out and then his read on Vivax was also out of nowhere prior to Vivax's large case.
Bats - generally I've found him a hard read, but what I've noticed this game is that besides a 50/50 read on Kelsier, he's not said too much.
Vivax - I couldn't follow the read progression from him townreading SL to then all of a sudden sheeping you two.




bit odd.


IIRC, that was an off the cuff response to what HF asked me point blank, typed the key points that I recalled. Did not filter dive for those responses.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 24 2015 18:35 GMT
#2281
On January 25 2015 00:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why am I scum hts?


Posted the case(s) on you twice over though you had yet to respond to it...but obviously since you aren't reading...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 24 2015 18:37 GMT
#2283
I realise Oats is likely asleep at this hour, shame he missed me when I left for Pilates...

On January 23 2015 02:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Regarding Oats,

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 22 2015 06:16 Damdred wrote:
we are lynching Oats today, I will put this in bullet points so that people can follow along

* Oats starts the game off by saying something is bad without any explanation and leaving the game.
* He comes back and defends his view which some agree with and some don't and never draws conclusions from this
* He never explains why he wants to lynch anyone or why he scum reads people
* During fights or arguments he adds fuel to the fire in SLs case he makes it very clear that he thinks SL is lying and heaps more pressure on him.
* Is not voting a scum read but came back said a case on him was bad put his vote down on the person who made the case said it was bad and left without explanation
* is not being controversial but more side lines and flying under the radar, is not scum hunting

Oats is scum vote for him.

1. Thats not a point
2. That doesnt make me scum at all?!? It was never meant as a discussion point
3. Thats not true.
4. I have no idea what you are smoking cause thats also not true
5. Clearly I think you are scum and the second part of that is a non point.
6. This is so general that you could apply it to half the people in the game, so clearly that doesnt make me scum either.


To be honest, I don't like Oats' defence here at all. Yes, #1 is a point because HF voted you on it, though he later moved elsewhere.
On #6, whether it's general or not, it's still a scumlike trait. Just because everyone is doing it, as you suggest, doesn't mean that you are less scum.

On #3, this is what I tried to point out with his throwing names around.

Oats, you threw Bats' name out randomly.

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On January 21 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 21 2015 09:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey lets lynch bats.


First time I think you've mentioned him. Why?


I questioned you on that. First time you ever brought up his name. You didn't respond. You threw his name on a list later on when Vivax asked you. You seemed to pick it up somewhat after your entrance, but when you threw Bats' name out like that, that's why I scumread you.


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