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On January 20 2015 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:19 marvellosity wrote:On January 20 2015 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 20 2015 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
it's ok, Oats, 2 players who are far stronger than you agree on a read. so bm. im not convinced on HF, all his posts so far have not been really thought out. Like he comes in and comments on the latest thing. Also he scumread me for going to sleep.
Hes better than that. He's also not pursued it at all. Basically HF hasn't pursued something further than it was worth pursuing, and that's quite a good sign. (wile, you) He would be fucking dumb to pursue it. The point is that he did make that case, and he did try and convince people to get on what is completely not a pressure vote. I dont even know what his read is on Wile or me, is better if he actually concluded shit rather than leaving it hanging.
The thread had 2 pages since the start of the game when I arrived so I started discussion like crazy, your posting has improved markedly so I dropped you and put you in some arbitrary townyish pile. The same as wile e. who seemed quite genuine when he said he had no proper reads on people.
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On January 20 2015 23:23 Vivax wrote:
I'll just sheep marv and HF on SL today and if we get a town flip I'm rolling up my theory again.
If SL flips scum I'm scumreading Kelsier for him being oblivious to the points on SL AND for being on the sideleines defending marv when we were fighting. Cause that's the sort of thing scum does.
but we're... your top 2 scum reads?!?!?!?!
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On January 20 2015 23:25 sicklucker wrote:
Read post game of new years eve mafia. Does that sound like someone he wants to policy lynch ?
On January 19 2015 00:41 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 23:53 sicklucker wrote:On January 18 2015 11:58 liancourt wrote:
i played my worst game of mafia.
i should really try and convince ppl next time...maybe not I pretty much just got mad at you for not helping me two games inarow and bet you for no reason -_- I'm not a good mafia player by all means, someone said there are 3 elements to being a good mafia player. 1. Having good reads. 2. Convincing others. 3. Surviving lynches. I'm not very good at #2 and when I do try to convince others I die really early which is prolly why i dont try lol After watching you play for 3 games...carol, imperial, this game...as town you played...chaotic. You are more suited to play as mafia than town. Your actions confuse town rather than help town read scum. I could understand why mafia shot a bulletless vig than a tracker. The thing that I really didnt understand was that you townread me and you even tracked me, but somehow ended up voting me at the end. I knew mderg was town by the way he was posting on the last day so I wasn't going to switch votes to save myself and I was 100% sure of eden being mafia. When I'm 100% sure of something i dont try to convince others just look at how i played in carol i was so sure of hf that I afked most of the time until he was finally lynched. My advice to you as a fellow player is to think about those 3 things and make your play less chaotic. And I guess i should try and convince others more of my reads...maybe not...depends.
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On January 20 2015 23:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
yeah, Kelsier waded in head on when no-one else did.
The opposite of sidelines really. Well when two towns are fighting and KElsier is scum all he has to do is support the townie that has an advantage to get cred for him (marv) and discredit the other (me) for a potential mislynch. Remember PErsonality mafia 2, marv? You and me were fighting and Acrofales and Austin kept attacking me while siding with you. The obvious effect was that you didn't scumread them and instead instantly believed the fake red check from Hiro on me that lost us the game. Even though I townread Foolishness all game while you were scumreading him and he died the night before we lost the game....
it's quite easy to side with the person telling the truth over someone who is pushing lies and slander though
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On January 20 2015 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:24 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2015 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 20 2015 23:19 marvellosity wrote:On January 20 2015 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On January 20 2015 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
it's ok, Oats, 2 players who are far stronger than you agree on a read. so bm. im not convinced on HF, all his posts so far have not been really thought out. Like he comes in and comments on the latest thing. Also he scumread me for going to sleep.
Hes better than that. He's also not pursued it at all. Basically HF hasn't pursued something further than it was worth pursuing, and that's quite a good sign. (wile, you) He would be fucking dumb to pursue it. The point is that he did make that case, and he did try and convince people to get on what is completely not a pressure vote. I dont even know what his read is on Wile or me, is better if he actually concluded shit rather than leaving it hanging. The thread had 2 pages since the start of the game when I arrived so I started discussion like crazy, your posting has improved markedly so I dropped you and put you in some arbitrary townyish pile. The same as wile e. who seemed quite genuine when he said he had no proper reads on people. Apparently the discussion didnt actually lead to anything though. A bit useless. I thought your problem with wile wasnt that he had no reads, rather it was this, Show nested quote +You were pointing out things that make damdred look scummy. You were voting marv for a joke. You then pointed out things that make damdred's vote and talk about marv seem like it was easy to town read marv because he knows it's a town marv. You then say marv can be bussed and that's why your vote was still on him (even though it was a joke)? wut? by everything you were talking about and pointing out it looks like you would be thinking marv was town and damd mafia but maintained your vote on marv for no reason.
which he explained by saying he didn't agree with what kelsier he was just clarifying it
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On January 20 2015 07:50 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
Look, you've done literally nothing. Most people have done nothing. You do something that's inconsistent with the miniscule amount of nothingness that is provided and I'm going to push it until you come up with a coherent reason why you're doing your inconsistency and then I can move onto the next person who is being quite clearly obnoxious for no apparent reason.
I want your thoughts on damdred that don't involve his post on oats that he hasn't explained yet. All I've seen is you agreeing that he wants to give an easy reason to town read marv later but fail to acknowledge the fact that that was what the wagon was about in the first place and instead ignore everything kelsier is pushing about it to have some kind of quarrel with me instead of just being transparent. There is no inconsistency. I agreed with the first argument Kelsier raised about Damdred. Later I clarified what he meant in one of his other posts because someone (you?) did not understand it. I did not say if I agree with it and to be frank I don't even know if I do.You want my thoughts on Damdred? He barely did anything. He weirdly jumped on oats when he was brought up and that's about it.
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explained it and seemed genuine with this remark
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On January 20 2015 23:36 sicklucker wrote:
Well if you guys sheep these two guys really bad read on me towns gonna be doomed because im flipping town...
I don't really know who you are scum reading other than lian for doing an uncharacteristic push on you which I just proved wasn't actually uncharacteristic.
On January 20 2015 21:48 sicklucker wrote:
Ya bats is the only one who looked scummy here. Vivax always makes up reasons to scum read people nothing new here
what happened to scum reading bats too?
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On January 20 2015 23:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2015 23:29 Vivax wrote:On January 20 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
yeah, Kelsier waded in head on when no-one else did.
The opposite of sidelines really. Well when two towns are fighting and KElsier is scum all he has to do is support the townie that has an advantage to get cred for him (marv) and discredit the other (me) for a potential mislynch. Remember PErsonality mafia 2, marv? You and me were fighting and Acrofales and Austin kept attacking me while siding with you. The obvious effect was that you didn't scumread them and instead instantly believed the fake red check from Hiro on me that lost us the game. Even though I townread Foolishness all game while you were scumreading him and he died the night before we lost the game.... it's quite easy to side with the person telling the truth over someone who is pushing lies and slander though Listen, the HTS thingy was a mess. when I noticed that marv sheeped you on HTS but wasn't wondering why you scumread him, I didn't further read on. I simply posted my thoughts about what I saw there and made conclusions. Later marv said something like "I misread" to take the wind out of my sails . So far I still don't know why you have assumptions that marv could be scum, or not. How are you reading him now and why? (Oh I townread him now cause we both think the same about SL's weird posts). Well, then go ahead. Lynch SL. And if he flips town, I'll have your heads on a spike on D2.
Plenty of people have explained this, even marv himself knows? He did nothing for a long time and as the game continued and nothing of value was posted he looked scummy. Then he started posting and I moved him to the undecided pile? I don't know how you are so oblivious to everything everyone is posting and now suddenly you're coherently reading this sl stuff. Also, if you're town reading marv because you agree then why does it matter if it's a mislynch or not??????
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On January 20 2015 23:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 21:29 sicklucker wrote:
I think vivax is bleeding town and playing the same as last game. That doesint mean hes right here tho... Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:38 sicklucker wrote:
Vivax how do you feel about lynching the first person to defend your stupidity and call you town? Ok this is actually a good argument for you being scum, cause right now, assuming marv is town, you knew from the start my arguments were stupid, and that's cause you knew marv was town simply cause you're scum. Obviously earlier you tried to find reasons to buddy us both up, so you couldn't be as explicit as you just were.
If you just admitted that you didn't read the thread properly and misread the whole marv thing then why is calling your arguments stupid mafia indicative when everyone else was thinking the same thing?
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sl you've completely sidestepped about 3 things i've talked about by the way... AGAIN
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On January 20 2015 23:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:36 sicklucker wrote:
Well if you guys sheep these two guys really bad read on me towns gonna be doomed because im flipping town... I don't really know who you are scum reading other than lian for doing an uncharacteristic push on you which I just proved wasn't actually uncharacteristic. Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 21:48 sicklucker wrote:
Ya bats is the only one who looked scummy here. Vivax always makes up reasons to scum read people nothing new here what happened to scum reading bats too?
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You complain about lian but didn't bring him up with kelsier. Later when you returned you talked about him and I disproved your posts saying that said this was uncharacteristic from new years eve end game, when it wasn't. You then proceeded to say bats was scummy from the vivax/marv interaction but have "given him a free pass" by not talking about him like you complained people were doing with lian.
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I think it's hilarious that people think voting marv 10 minutes into the game is "pressure"
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Holyflare - No strong read. Could be either Ive seen him push stupid mislynches as town before
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On January 21 2015 00:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +Holyflare - No strong read. Could be either Ive seen him push stupid mislynches as town before when????
vote this guy right now, we've played like 3 games together and most of them I was mafia and the one game I was town he was mafia and shot me n1 for being so right and getting all of the mafia team.
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On January 21 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 00:10 Holyflare wrote:On January 21 2015 00:07 Holyflare wrote:Holyflare - No strong read. Could be either Ive seen him push stupid mislynches as town before when???? vote this guy right now, we've played like 3 games together and most of them I was mafia and the one game I was town he was mafia and shot me n1 for being so right and getting all of the mafia team. What. Didnt you shoot hopeless and mislynch rofl. I remember asking my scum buddys not to kill you because you were so wrong that game but they wanted to out of fear.
On December 06 2014 06:03 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2014 02:17 Holyflare wrote:
my list was all mafia no idea what you're talking about! I just said we killed you for a reason (because you were good) not sure how you missed that.
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On January 21 2015 00:15 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so your right. You were the better of those 3 vets that embloded town. Now lynch me for having a bad memory rofl
and how does that change your read?
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If marv is town and he's pushing you and you said he was town that we should never lynch why am I not town for pushing marv's target before marv even said it?
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