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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:11 GMT
#632
Damdred, that's why I've been scumreading SL as well, he hadn't been looking for scum from the off.
Catching up, sidestepping HF when he did has made him look even worse.

Oats on the other hand has since picked it up though and same with Marv.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:16 GMT
#638
SL, you're taking my play out of context. In NYE party mafia, I initially voted VA based on him being useless.

When you tunnelled me, and people started placing their votes, I specifically called out on the fact that later on I would be forced to keep my vote on VA to save myself.

Your points on me are all taking what I am doing out of context. I wasn't giving Oats ANY excuse, at that time, agreeing with HF on why he deserved my vote. For Lian, I was pointing out a potential double standard in Kels' thinking since those two are the same timezone.

And I wasn't defending your pressure at all. Lian didn't think you posted at all, that is not the same as defending what you did, only that it existed.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:17 GMT
#639
SL, last point, Oats made the claim that HF was just commenting, but his push on Wile appeared well thought out, which is why I'd asked him on it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:21 GMT
#644
Kels, the pressure votes on Marv, and talking on Lian. Just in general, question dodging is not a good thing.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:24 GMT
#647
Nope. I remembered the thing with Lian because Lian had been calling him out from the beginning.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:28 GMT
#651
No, not saying the question on Damd wasn't a sidestep, but the ones on Marv and Lian were the first thing that came to my mind. Also SL was trying to convince me at the beginning on Marv, but I'd taken a wait and see approach.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:31 GMT
#654
SL - in general, not scum hunting
Lian - he called out SL, but then tried to scumread Geript for replacing out and then his read on Vivax was also out of nowhere prior to Vivax's large case.
Bats - generally I've found him a hard read, but what I've noticed this game is that besides a 50/50 read on Kelsier, he's not said too much.
Vivax - I couldn't follow the read progression from him townreading SL to then all of a sudden sheeping you two.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:37 GMT
#661
Marv, yes, but that's a weaker read on my end. I didn't like his points he made against you.
Still, I feel the most strongly about SL.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:41 GMT
#666
On January 21 2015 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 01:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Marv, yes, but that's a weaker read on my end. I didn't like his points he made against you.
Still, I feel the most strongly about SL.


are you not going to comment on the kelstrap?


Like I said, the Marv and Lian points were the first thing that came to my mind because I was somewhat involved with those. I didn't filter dive the thread.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 16:51 GMT
#677
HF I assume you're asking about the "Damd question" part, Kels asked me about it, so that's why I phrased it that way.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 17:02 GMT
#680
Marv, I see what you are saying. No, I didn't recall it, but wasn't going to argue otherwise, the sidestepping part, which is why I phrased it that way.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#844
I'm back, and catching up.

HF, to answer your previous question, Lian's moving to a Geript lynch is scummy because it was for him replacing out. He didn't comment on Geript's gameplay for scumreading him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 20:10 GMT
#845
And Kels, I explained what you asked three times over now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 20:12 GMT
#848
On January 21 2015 04:53 marvellosity wrote:
I think lian looks kinda terrible for not contributing today.


To expand upon this, his posting in NYE Party was a lot more substantial than it is in this game.
Which is why I expected more from what he posted.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 20:16 GMT
#850
On January 21 2015 03:56 marvellosity wrote:
Typical woman eh?

*hides*


Just stumbled upon this...

Damn you Marv
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 21:34 GMT
#879
Wile, from what I recall of Oats' town game, he calls a lot of things into question, which he's doing more of. I didn't agree with all the points he made, but I am leaning town on him.

I thought HF's initial push was well thought out, since he appeared to take it logically point by point.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 21:38 GMT
#883
Bats, you indicated you were scumreading Marv for a double standard in allowing Vivax to use associative reads for his lynch target. What are your thoughts on Marv as a whole?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 21:39 GMT
#885
Wile, three, two of which he was town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 21:46 GMT
#893
Wile, for example, the part where Oats said why Damdred's reasoning was bad for calling someone scum, that Marv had to do something to be called scum and not something he didn't do. Meta reads can easily be used in support of that, but the ideas he presented weren't a reason to scumread Oats.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 20 2015 21:53 GMT
#902
GGs Marv, hope everything is okay.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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