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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:34 GMT
#232
I wish I had like 2 town reads to act as "checkers"

Basically it's a good idea to force people to pick something, and then have a check on some of the mafia roles. So if we make a townread in slot maybe.. 8? pick DT or Carrier or HT or any other clear mafia role, they can then immediately claim as the day starts and tell us if they got the role, or if they became probes which means someone in front of them is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:35 GMT
#233
It's good talking to you guys.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:39 GMT
#234
Okay so to make it more clear:

Good town roles:

Core (only with a day 1 claim)
Archon
Obs
Immortal
Colossus
Phoenix
Void Ray
Tempest (only with a day 1 claim)
Mothership

That's 9 roles and there are 13 players. I'm trying to figure out if we should really allow any other roles. Warp prism messes with the colossus shot, the zealot and stalker are both massive wildcards (mafia taking them can both shoot people, and mess with checks/town kp) Carrier/DT/HT are clear mafia roles.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:40 GMT
#235
oh I forgot the oracle.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:46 GMT
#236
The day 1 strategy SHOULD be this:

Core and Tempest claim.

We then proceed to day 1 scumhunting and lynching as normal.

During the night the following should happen:

Colossus shoots 2 people with the help of town. Void ray charges his lazer. Archon, immortal, and the motherships do whatever they please.

Obs
tempest (has claimed)
oracle
phoenix

All make checks. Hell, we could even claim all these 4 roles because it will take mafia a long time to kill off all the check roles (that's assuming they're all controlled by town of course )

Actually yes, we force all the checking roles to claim this means that by day 2 we have the following info:

3 checks (assuming mafia kills one, and doesn't get owned by the mothership docs)
1 lynch
2 people killed by town
1 people killed by mafia

+ whatever shenanigans the mafia pulls.

This is clearly a MUCH better strategy than "everyone does his own thing".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:52 GMT
#237
I just read Milkman's role analysis, seems we sorta disagree on some things.

In other news, I have a townread now, it's Obi.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 10:53 GMT
#238
sorta weak but him insisting he should pick the DT and immediately claim it, along with the reasons he gave for doing so (I'm easy to read!!!) feel sort of town.

It just seems not very mafia like to immediately saying "hey look, imma do something controversial, and something that means people will look extra hard at me, to help town".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 11:30 GMT
#243
On January 25 2015 20:16 Onegu wrote:
I made my pick my only concern is if marv is town he would pick it. It's something not on your list palmar.

So you're committing to picking an anti town role. Noted.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 11:31 GMT
#244
If anyone ever warps I'm policy lynching the fuck out of that guy
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:04 GMT
#249
On January 25 2015 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
I need a good marv-role for low down the order. Someone do that thinking for me

probe.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:05 GMT
#250
On January 25 2015 20:59 Onegu wrote:
And you need to pick the warp prism palmar it's the most op thing here for scum as it gives them dt and ht.

Maybe we make obi pick that?

If I'm right he's town that makes sure superbia isn't doing shenanigans.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:06 GMT
#252
On January 25 2015 20:50 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 20:30 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:16 Onegu wrote:
I made my pick my only concern is if marv is town he would pick it. It's something not on your list palmar.

So you're committing to picking an anti town role. Noted.



How do you get that form that? It means I'm town picking a town role that is mediocre that maybe town marv would want because of its armor... So he lives... Understand now?

My list was a list of roles that aren't 100% anti town.

If you pick dt/ht/carrier, and to a lesser extent sentry/zealot/stalker, you're literally claiming that you're going to pick an anti town role.

My list includes all the good roles for town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:09 GMT
#253
The brilliance of my plan is that it prevents mafia from getting any KP roles.

If there is KP not accounted for, we lynch people that claim probes, unless someone has a CC. I've basically forbidden people taking KP roles except the Colossus (and the oracle, actually).

The goal here is to CONTROL KP.

The problem is that there are always going to be morons who think they're the shit and want to do their own thing.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:11 GMT
#257
On January 25 2015 21:09 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:50 Onegu wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:30 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:16 Onegu wrote:
I made my pick my only concern is if marv is town he would pick it. It's something not on your list palmar.

So you're committing to picking an anti town role. Noted.



How do you get that form that? It means I'm town picking a town role that is mediocre that maybe town marv would want because of its armor... So he lives... Understand now?

My list was a list of roles that aren't 100% anti town.

If you pick dt/ht/carrier, and to a lesser extent sentry/zealot/stalker, you're literally claiming that you're going to pick an anti town role.

My list includes all the good roles for town.



Ok, but then I did realize it was on your list.

Right that's fine then.

You're so low on the list that you probably won't get a role, but you not getting a role gives us ton of information.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:12 GMT
#258
On January 25 2015 21:10 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 21:05 Palmar wrote:
On January 25 2015 20:59 Onegu wrote:
And you need to pick the warp prism palmar it's the most op thing here for scum as it gives them dt and ht.

Maybe we make obi pick that?

If I'm right he's town that makes sure superbia isn't doing shenanigans.

I'd prefer you picking Warp Prism and Obi picking dt. That's like the most scum favored roles out right at the start.

DT isn't that strong though.

Because we just lynch probes if there is unexplained KP.

If on day 2 more than 3 people end up dead (mafia kp + colossus kp) we force a mass claim and kill whoever is scummy among the probe claimers.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:12 GMT
#259
On January 25 2015 21:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
I picked a cool town role yay

You're not meant to pick until we have a plan.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:14 GMT
#262
Btw Archon, if ever in danger of being lynched, should claim and claim who he is going to shoot if he gets lynched anyway.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:15 GMT
#263
On January 25 2015 21:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well the plan is that i picked already

you can re-send in your choice...

Well, if you do something stupid we'll maybe let you pick on which side of you the colossus shoots.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:16 GMT
#265
Help me figure that out bro?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 25 2015 12:18 GMT
#268
Approved protection/survivability roles
Mothership Core (claims)
Mothership
Immortal
Archon

Approved investigative roles
Observer
Phoenix
Tempest (claims)
Oracle

Approved vigilante roles
Colossus
Void Ray

Mafia roles. Pick = scumclaim
Warp Prism
Zealot
Stalker
Sentry
HT
DT
Carrier
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