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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 10 2015 01:29 GMT
#18
Tentative /in.
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 13 2015 07:41 GMT
#71
Definitely /in, in case it was under question.
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 16 2015 22:12 GMT
#135
And it feels like the first time.... Feels like the very first time, oh yeah...
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 16 2015 22:17 GMT
#138
On January 17 2015 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Tfrel why are you voting gerpit right now? I know in pregame he said he would only post 10 posts per day phase 5 per Night but seriously don't vote without evidence that's scum -.-

I think he voted in jest.
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 17 2015 00:34 GMT
#173
On January 17 2015 09:28 LightningStrike wrote:
GB why you claimed VT so early with no pressure?

Why are you suddenly so aggressive in questioning people about their motives? In the last game of ours you were very passive at the start. However, your behaviour is rather eccentric from what I've read...
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 17 2015 19:51 GMT
#314
On January 18 2015 03:52 coolTLname wrote:
#unvote

my list so far
WarWaffle, Breshke, Shining

I'm going to address this now because last time I died when someone started a policy(?) lynch because I wasn't present. I'm on my mobile device currently, but I will do my best to answer any questions directed my way.
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 17 2015 20:14 GMT
#318
On January 18 2015 04:53 LightningStrike wrote:
WarWaffle are charging your phone atm? Last time you posted from a mobile you didn't have power just worried about you not posting that's all.

Don't worry about my phone.... It's not like you don't post more than enough for both of us anyway...
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 17 2015 20:16 GMT
#319
On January 18 2015 04:54 Damdred wrote:
are you scum ww

I'm not sure whether this will incriminate me or have the opposite effect, but I am not mafia.
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 17 2015 21:03 GMT
#332
Well that cleared something up. Glad I re-read before I posted my top 3. Time to start again...
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 17 2015 21:54 GMT
#355
For my top 3 of mafia: GlowingBear, Trfel, and possibly one of the lurkers. I think that the parallels between both GB and Trfel's beginning posts (both post something considered controversial by others; both posts are later deemed unsatisfactory for either alignment; both can bow rest easy that they were both in the spotlight early, something that Mafia almost certainly wan to avoid... But if done right, can cement 2 mafia members as town for the rest of the game... Unless they can prove otherwise, of course.

Not enough information: Breshke, LoneMeow, and The Shining have not posted enough to determine alignment as of my current read-through. Anyone who suggests otherwise is denying that they are policy lynches... Something not recommended for day 1.

Town leaning: rsoultin, jarjarbinks, geript, DarthPunk, and Damdred. These people have either asked questions that needed to be asked, acted similarly to other games where they were town, or have otherwise contributed to the discussion without posting a dead-end theory.

Special: LightningStrike. No idea. Not even going to bother.

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TheWarWaffle
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada115 Posts
January 17 2015 23:50 GMT
#367
On January 18 2015 08:38 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 08:28 rsoultin wrote:
On January 18 2015 07:57 Trfel wrote:
On January 18 2015 07:53 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 18 2015 07:37 Trfel wrote:
On January 18 2015 07:27 GlowingBear wrote:
War Waffle probably town

Why do you say this?


He is going against two vocal players, which is kinda a suicidal move for mafia to do.
The only motive he has to do this is if his partners are in danger and he wants to push a mislynch.
Which I doubt is the case.

I suppose I can see this.

At the same time, WarWaffle seemed to provide many more reads in the previous game. I know this game hasn't been going for as long yet, but there has been more posting here. And last game he had lots of time issues as well (I know he said he had some in this game, I think, but they should be less than last game).


I am trying very hard to find reasons to town-read you this game, Trfel.

This is simply untrue. :/ WW analyzed HTS' post and gave a list post on his reads Day 1 last game. It seems about the same to me, except WW actually questioned someone this game (LS). Considering there are still 24ish hours left for Day 1...dude, give me a reason to town-read you, please ><

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 07 2015 04:51 TheWarWaffle wrote:
My apologies for the inactivity. I give no excuse other than the fact that my life is busy.

After reading the thread my current reads for the game are as follows:

The Shining: Town

The Shining has not posted all that much but the quality of posting changed drastically as soon as the game started. The Shining asks questions where they need to be asked and maintains a cordial aloofness towards everyone who is playing. No person is accused of anything without evidence.

Half the Sky: Town

HTS acts like a true townie. Says what she wants, when she wants to, to whomever she wants. At least, that's what she wants us to believe, but I don't have anything better at this time.

rsoultin: Suspicious

The accusation-train keeps on rolling whenever rsoultin is around. I find the similarities in play style to her previous games an indicator of deceit rather than openness. Rsoultin rolled Town in every other game she played like this, so why shouldn't she be Town now? I can't think of a better cover than this. Strangely, even though rsoultin admits that it's her "bias" to ignore inactives, she votes for me. This is strange for several reasons: I was inactive at the time she started my lynch wagon; she had previously agreed with my post on HTS; and there was no progression of thought as to why I was scum.


jarjarbinks: Light Town

Jarjarbinks' behavior sets off no alarm bells in my mind even though he lurks more than he posts. The posts he does make are normally short and succinct, and while many of his posts appear misleading at first, they work in the context. I think the only reason he is voting for me is because other people started the wagon.

Trfel: Unknown

As Trfel has posted effectively nothing indicating any affiliation, I must refrain from passing judgment on the hangman.

Gumdrop: Town

Gumdrop hasn't said much but from what was said I glean bits of Town. The reasons given for not posting more are adequate, and the type of posts implies a desire for something to happen, something the Mafia does not want. The posts that were made are logical and forward-thinking. A more Mafia-oriented lurker would post more misleading information.

Silverarte: Possible Mafia

The ease of which Silverarte hops aboard the bandwagon train is startling. Silverarte was leaning towards ExO_ and Gumdrop being scum, for the reasons of aggressive accusations and "posting and offering nothing" respectively. Somehow, both of these are forgotten as soon as she jumped on my vote bandwagon. For someone who admits she's new and even goes as far to use that as defense for gumdrop her voting for me makes no sense based on her previous actions. The previous existing relationship between Silverarte and rsoultin gives cause for the sudden change of thought, but even so...

ExO_: Light Town

My thoughts on ExO_ have flipped back and forth for some time now. Initially I thought he was town for being the only one willing to aggressively step and take affirmative action. After that, I thought he was scum for simply spreading accusations thin and putting a cloud of doubt over everyone, which is scum-like behavior. Though his disappearance is suspicious, it does not seem implicative.

-Celestial-: Town

-Celestial- maintains a consistent level of posts and explains his thoughts in a logical progression. I see no suspicious behavior, only a desire to understand and unearth new information.

LightningStrike: Suspicious/Unknown

I have my own reasons for being suspicious of LS, mainly due to the constant attempts to shift attention whenever the focus is on him.

Tubesock: Mafia

After looking at all of Tubesock's posts, I strongly believe that he is Mafia. His posts, while numerous, are short and always seem to detract from the conversation rather than add. Very few of the accusations presented by Tubesock are his; most are other people's regurgitated ideas. I think Tubesock's passive beginning was only due to the low amount of traffic it received, and that his "coming out of his shell" was him realizing that he could take advantage of it. Several times he has posted about the inactivity of the thread, which seems redundant when your very post makes it active. Tubesock only did this to make it look like he cares. A Mafia player wants there to be confusion, chaos, and distrust in the thread. Do Tubesock's actions create clear, organized discussion? I don't think so.

Currently, Tubesock has my vote. I'd like to hear other people's opinions as well.

To me, that post seems much more comprehensive than the post in this game. I don't see your point. I could also understand where TheWarWaffle was coming from in that post, even though I disagreed with his reads. In this game, his logic doesn't make sense. He says that because GlowingBear and I did something towny, we have to be scum. Both GlowingBear and I have also asked questions and contributed to discussion (however effectively), so that is the other criteria he set for his townreads. Ignoring the early questioning, TheWarWaffle's play seems noticeably worse. It actually makes me tempted to lynch him, though as GlowingBear stated, coming in with two scumreads on reasonably active players doesn't make sense for mafia.

My last post was made on my mobile device. I will post a bigger, better one later when I have access to a computer.
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TheWarWaffle
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada115 Posts
January 18 2015 03:11 GMT
#412
Trfel: Beginning the game with a policy vote, on one of the most veteran players, makes no sense from a town perspective. His concerns regarding LS seem odd considering he always posts this way. Indeed, many of Trfel's meta-reads are effectively useless. I don't know why he would be making meta-reads based on the fact that he is playing completely different than his previous game. There is a great deal of fluff in almost all of his posts if one looks close enough... excessive repetition of known facts, lengthening of paragraphs with "purple prose", etc.

GlowingBear: First posts of the game are completely worthless. No reason to post most of them. He accuses Trfel of making bad posts repeatedly, and then through one aggressive comment attacking rsoultin's accusation, GB suddenly finds Trfel the towniest of town. Most of GB's posts promote discussion and point fingers without making any substantial claims. Most of my suspicion of GB comes from a lack of reasoning for his actions; a disconnect between why he posts what he did. If that does not explain what is wrong with his posts then I doubt I can quantify it.He is my number 2 mafia suspect as of now.

Note that both Trfel and GlowingBear push accusations towards either inactive or lurking players, and just as quickly take them back.

I believe that through my evidence and the evidence provided by others such as rsoultin and geript, Trfel is the best lynch candidate at this time, though GlowingBear is a close second. I am unsure as to who the final mafia is at this moment.

##Vote: Trfel




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TheWarWaffle
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada115 Posts
January 18 2015 17:23 GMT
#596
On January 19 2015 00:10 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 12:11 TheWarWaffle wrote:
Trfel: Beginning the game with a policy vote, on one of the most veteran players, makes no sense from a town perspective. His concerns regarding LS seem odd considering he always posts this way. Indeed, many of Trfel's meta-reads are effectively useless. I don't know why he would be making meta-reads based on the fact that he is playing completely different than his previous game. There is a great deal of fluff in almost all of his posts if one looks close enough... excessive repetition of known facts, lengthening of paragraphs with "purple prose", etc.


How does the policy vote in first post make more sense from scum perspective?

Where did Trfel give meta reads? I did not notice many of those in his filter. Please quote me some.

It's not just about the policy vote; it's about how all of Trfel's actions coalesce into a very suspicious pile. The vote itself was suspicious in

Trfel's meta-reads:


rsoultin, I would like to know what you expected to gain from some of your later questions, particularly, "do you intend to scumhunt this game"? There is only one possible answer to that question. Also, do you have any thoughts on the rest of the thread? I'm surprised that you picked on my opening but not GlowingBear's opening, which is bad for reasons I have previously stated.

That said, rsoultin's questioning does fit with her town meta. For an example of this, see the opening of the most recent Newbie Mafia.


Rsoultin and jarjar, you two need to talk so that jarjar feels comfortable with Day 1. That aside, while jarjar's opening post is pretty horrible, he has given some useful thoughts since then. As for rsoultin, I feel that her play lines up exactly with (my knowledge of) her town meta.


At the same time, WarWaffle seemed to provide many more reads in the previous game. I know this game hasn't been going for as long yet, but there has been more posting here. And last game he had lots of time issues as well (I know he said he had some in this game, I think, but they should be less than last game).




There are more, and there are posts made by him entirely on the topic of meta I will not post here. I am unsure as to how you may have missed them, considering what few reads Trfel has are all based of off predetermined ideas of what people should be doing. What is YOUR definition of meta, LoneMeow?
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TheWarWaffle
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada115 Posts
January 18 2015 17:35 GMT
#600
On January 19 2015 02:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 02:23 TheWarWaffle wrote:
On January 19 2015 00:10 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 18 2015 12:11 TheWarWaffle wrote:
Trfel: Beginning the game with a policy vote, on one of the most veteran players, makes no sense from a town perspective. His concerns regarding LS seem odd considering he always posts this way. Indeed, many of Trfel's meta-reads are effectively useless. I don't know why he would be making meta-reads based on the fact that he is playing completely different than his previous game. There is a great deal of fluff in almost all of his posts if one looks close enough... excessive repetition of known facts, lengthening of paragraphs with "purple prose", etc.


How does the policy vote in first post make more sense from scum perspective?

Where did Trfel give meta reads? I did not notice many of those in his filter. Please quote me some.

It's not just about the policy vote; it's about how all of Trfel's actions coalesce into a very suspicious pile. The vote itself was suspicious in

Trfel's meta-reads:


rsoultin, I would like to know what you expected to gain from some of your later questions, particularly, "do you intend to scumhunt this game"? There is only one possible answer to that question. Also, do you have any thoughts on the rest of the thread? I'm surprised that you picked on my opening but not GlowingBear's opening, which is bad for reasons I have previously stated.

That said, rsoultin's questioning does fit with her town meta. For an example of this, see the opening of the most recent Newbie Mafia.


Rsoultin and jarjar, you two need to talk so that jarjar feels comfortable with Day 1. That aside, while jarjar's opening post is pretty horrible, he has given some useful thoughts since then. As for rsoultin, I feel that her play lines up exactly with (my knowledge of) her town meta.


At the same time, WarWaffle seemed to provide many more reads in the previous game. I know this game hasn't been going for as long yet, but there has been more posting here. And last game he had lots of time issues as well (I know he said he had some in this game, I think, but they should be less than last game).




There are more, and there are posts made by him entirely on the topic of meta I will not post here. I am unsure as to how you may have missed them, considering what few reads Trfel has are all based of off predetermined ideas of what people should be doing. What is YOUR definition of meta, LoneMeow?


WarWaffle, if we can't lynch Trfel today, do you still prefer GB?

Absolutely. I'm leaning more towards GB than Trfel at the moment after having read both of their filters over and over again.
Trfel at least pretends to be town; GB doesn't seem to care either way. Trfel will attempt to argue his way out of an accusation; GB will either ignore it or treat it like it's something other than what it is. I will leave my vote on Trfel as of now but GlowingBear is likely my EoD lynch target as of now.
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TheWarWaffle
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada115 Posts
January 18 2015 18:30 GMT
#612
On January 19 2015 03:11 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 02:23 TheWarWaffle wrote:
On January 19 2015 00:10 LoneMeow wrote:
On January 18 2015 12:11 TheWarWaffle wrote:
Trfel: Beginning the game with a policy vote, on one of the most veteran players, makes no sense from a town perspective. His concerns regarding LS seem odd considering he always posts this way. Indeed, many of Trfel's meta-reads are effectively useless. I don't know why he would be making meta-reads based on the fact that he is playing completely different than his previous game. There is a great deal of fluff in almost all of his posts if one looks close enough... excessive repetition of known facts, lengthening of paragraphs with "purple prose", etc.


How does the policy vote in first post make more sense from scum perspective?

Where did Trfel give meta reads? I did not notice many of those in his filter. Please quote me some.

It's not just about the policy vote; it's about how all of Trfel's actions coalesce into a very suspicious pile. The vote itself was suspicious in

Trfel's meta-reads:


rsoultin, I would like to know what you expected to gain from some of your later questions, particularly, "do you intend to scumhunt this game"? There is only one possible answer to that question. Also, do you have any thoughts on the rest of the thread? I'm surprised that you picked on my opening but not GlowingBear's opening, which is bad for reasons I have previously stated.

That said, rsoultin's questioning does fit with her town meta. For an example of this, see the opening of the most recent Newbie Mafia.


Rsoultin and jarjar, you two need to talk so that jarjar feels comfortable with Day 1. That aside, while jarjar's opening post is pretty horrible, he has given some useful thoughts since then. As for rsoultin, I feel that her play lines up exactly with (my knowledge of) her town meta.


At the same time, WarWaffle seemed to provide many more reads in the previous game. I know this game hasn't been going for as long yet, but there has been more posting here. And last game he had lots of time issues as well (I know he said he had some in this game, I think, but they should be less than last game).




There are more, and there are posts made by him entirely on the topic of meta I will not post here. I am unsure as to how you may have missed them, considering what few reads Trfel has are all based of off predetermined ideas of what people should be doing. What is YOUR definition of meta, LoneMeow?


None of those really give a read (X is scum/town) based on meta, they're simply statements on whether he thinks the playstyle is similar, but I see your point, in a way they are reads since they are implying something about the alignment.

You claim "it's not about the policy vote" but in the message I quoted you very clearly said:
Show nested quote +

Beginning the game with a policy vote, on one of the most veteran players, makes no sense from a town perspective.


If you want to claim that somehow makes him scummy then you really need to explain how it makes more sense from scum perspective.

Your selective quoting has not gone unnoticed. "It's not about the policy vote" and "It's not just about the policy vote" are two very different answers. As for why I have my vote still on Trfel: I can change it any time I want. I have not been secretive or closed about my opinions, and I feel that putting pressure on both Trfel and GB is a perfectly valid reason.
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TheWarWaffle
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada115 Posts
January 18 2015 20:13 GMT
#652
##Unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear
I find nothing redeeming about GB. At least Trfel posts with reasoning.
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TheWarWaffle
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada115 Posts
January 18 2015 21:58 GMT
#855
I hate this game
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TheWarWaffle
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Canada115 Posts
January 18 2015 22:03 GMT
#871
geript you're a sob
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