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On January 24 2015 11:47 rsoultin wrote: Lol, this was what I asked you earlier, a couple times, which you kept answering with your former post before our conversation even began. It's hardly putting words in your mouth. If you intended to answer differently you had every opportunity to.  Push me then, DP. Since this conversation makes me scum.Where did I say that? Point out where I said that? Stop twisting my words. Stop drawing connclusions that are different from what I am saying. Here is what I think: I agreed with geript's reasoning on the night one shot. I also noted you were combative when talking about it. You then argue that you were not combative about it whilst becoming more combative and passive aggressive around geripts reasoning that I agree with? You ask me if I agree with geripts reasoning? I respond yes. You ask me again, I respond yes again. You ask me again and I go WTF?!? I already answered this question. YES! Then you say, "Oh so you agree with geripts reasoning and because you agree you also believe there is no possible alternative to geripts reasoning" (which is a stupid and irrelevant proposition) No. That is not what I said. I don't think a 100% conclusion can be made. And the fact that you are being weirdly passive aggressive and combative about a small piece of analysis looks scummy to me. And the way you are adjusting my arguments to presumably suit your narrative rather than get a truthful idea of my opinion is ALSO scummy. then you say: "You called me scum then you have to push me." No, you are doing it again, I said this passage of play = scummy. Therefore you irrationally extend my statement into some form of combative statement. But you know what. Reading your filter. You could have easily bussed trefel from the start. You could have easily been trying to set up mislynches for that and geript could easily be right in his analysis and it freaked you out so you got all weird and outed yourself talking about something with little direct relevance to the lynch today. ##Unvote ##Vote: Rso | ||
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On January 24 2015 11:51 rsoultin wrote: Because if you still think it's possible then that's exactly what I think, and that's exactly why I don't think geript's point is enough to incriminate certain people and exonerate others. Point out to me. Where. ANYONE. CHANGED THEIR READS BASED ON GERIPTS ANALYSIS. You seem paranoid at a townie analyzing the night kill, or anyone drawing conclusions from it when nobody is doing that at all. THAT IS SCUMMY AS SHIT. | ||
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I said that is what I think. That does not mean I do not believe it is possible for a world to exist where somehow geript or especially Damdred are scum. I think it is likely. I agree with geript. That does not preclude any other answer potentially being true which is the position you tried to shove down my throat. You know how you could have known that? Read the post I posted like 6 times and not tried to draw an irrational logical position from that conclusion. | ||
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On January 24 2015 12:14 rsoultin wrote: If that's what you think, be my guest. I can disagree with a point without people changing their reads. I'm not sure why you're so hung up on that. Because you kept stating that you were not going to lynch people based on geripts analysis. When not only had nobody even suggested that. Nobody had even used that as a basis for a shift in their reads. Anyway ##unvote I still think you are town based on the strength of your filter before you started being impossible to deal with rationally. | ||
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On January 24 2015 12:07 The Shining wrote: You had some original points against him at the time of you casing him, yes, but I guess I expressed that thought wrong. What I meant was you planted the LM case and let it sit N2 and then came out the gate pushing it after Bresh appeared with his LM case. Also, I had already questioned LMs activity at this point, too. The support for the LM lynch picked up overnight you could've seen that as an opportunity to push the mislynch. Again, this is all on LM flipping Town, which I don't see happening. Tin foil hats. I'm actually more suspicious of Geript pushing a counterlynch on you instead. Repeating myself here but unless he really is convinced LM isn't scum, I don't see the sense in replacing him with you as the lynch. Unless this is trying to save a scum mate late in the game? Too much tinfoil cuz LM hasn't flipped yet but still worth mentioning for once he does flip scum. Do you think Damdred is more likely to be town then geript? If so why? | ||
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On January 24 2015 12:28 rsoultin wrote: Hm. Okay? I'm pretty sure I've stated other things without being prompted to as well, so I'm not sure why you put special significance on that, but that's fine. Perhaps it all goes back to your initial tone read on me. DP, so let's say that geript's point is 100% correct. Who would your noob scum team be? I'm assuming Shining because of your earlier suspicions. Shining + LM if one of those flipped town You. | ||
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Shining: Posts too construcuted, talks about alot of useless stuff and has hardly anything of value in his posts. Trying too look good but I can't see him trying to figure shit out. Lynch. LM: He has things that make me think he is town but he is not contributing aside from some token questions. Worried that everyone scum reads him, Worried because I don't see WHY everyone scum reads him, like I read his filter and go: Lurker, could make arguments for either alignment (everyone disagrees with me but I still see him backing down so easily from his scum read as townie even though he was obviously wrong in his assumptions on bresh because it is HARD to switch reads on the fly like that as newer scum.) Whereas most of the people in this game go: OBV scum. There is some sort of disconnect between what I am seeing and what the others are seeing which makes me nervous. POE isn't kind to him though so he is in the lynchable pile. Damdred: Thought he was scum at the start. Really weird progression on some of his reads ( his read on me in particular) Not really being that insightful, reminds me of his Imperial play. | ||
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Filter looks good. Is long and kinda makes sense. If she bussed Trefle at the start (very possible) then we are in trouble boys. | ||
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On January 24 2015 12:43 geript wrote: Rsoultin going ham on stupid shit and not understanding anything is really odd too. Like that never happened in the newbie game. You think it is scum odd or bad odd? because to me it could be both and I have no other information aside from the fact she has the largest filter in the game and pushed scum from the start of day one. Which makes me think bad odd. anyway im going to the store. Later. | ||
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On January 24 2015 12:47 rsoultin wrote: -_- lol. Sure, geript. Is LM just a policy lynch to you? wat? ![[image loading]](https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/edward-norton-laptop-gif.gif) | ||
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On January 24 2015 12:07 The Shining wrote: You had some original points against him at the time of you casing him, yes, but I guess I expressed that thought wrong. What I meant was you planted the LM case and let it sit N2 and then came out the gate pushing it after Bresh appeared with his LM case. Also, I had already questioned LMs activity at this point, too. The support for the LM lynch picked up overnight you could've seen that as an opportunity to push the mislynch. Again, this is all on LM flipping Town, which I don't see happening. Tin foil hats. I'm actually more suspicious of Geript pushing a counterlynch on you instead. Repeating myself here but unless he really is convinced LM isn't scum, I don't see the sense in replacing him with you as the lynch. Unless this is trying to save a scum mate late in the game? Too much tinfoil cuz LM hasn't flipped yet but still worth mentioning for once he does flip scum. Then if you think Damdred is more likely to be scum then geript, why did you say you are suspicious of Townier Geript pushing Scummier Damdred? That makes zero fucking sense to me. | ||
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On January 24 2015 13:41 The Shining wrote: OK now really gone lol ... How convenient for you. | ||
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On January 24 2015 16:05 rsoultin wrote: Thank you. That clears it up for me, anyway. Eh, I'm ignoring the attitudes as much as I can this game. They can't all be scum. If you want to bounce ideas with me I'm happy to listen. I know people keep asking me where I stand with the ifs and buts, but I think I've gotten all I can out of a Day 1 vote analysis and there's not much to gain from Day 2, so... If you like I can explain my read on Breshke? Right now I'm trying to find scum by finding town. Yes please. | ||
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On January 24 2015 15:44 The Shining wrote: A direct one, not deflective sarcasm. And I agree it's highly unlikely but not insane. My first ever TL mafia game, my strongest townread was scum. I'm in a nothing is impossible state of mind. I mentioned that the only red flag I've seen on an otherwise Town read on you was pushing to save who I think is scum in LM. I still think you can be town but I want to make sure I'm not making that decision blindly. I have nothing else to think of you except for the "If I'm wrong on everything, what's another possibility here?" theory and I came up with that. Maybe this is a mistake on my part but I was taught to always say what's on your mind, be transparent in your thoughts. If you think it is highly unlikely then what purpose does it serve to bring it up at all? | ||
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On January 24 2015 15:24 The Shining wrote: When there is no real threat to either of you if you're scum with LM already at 5 votes? It doesn't seem impossible to me but whatever. Condescending attitude and a sarcastic response. Would you rather I keep my thoughts to myself? Because that doesn't help town at all. And you get rather touchy when anybody so much as mentions your name in a post. DP - Because we don't have unlimited mislynches to play with, far from it. I've done my best trying to read them both and your question was which one seems scummier than the other, not which one I think is scum. I've made clear my only solid scumread is LM, then I toss up between Breshke and Damdred. Geript wasn't even on that list. Geript's response to me brainstorming and not pushing him, just implying what I'll learn from an LM flip seems overly sarcastic and dismissive. That's why he's on that list now, too. I'm still on the fence about Damdred so yes, from where I'm sitting and what I'm seeing, I'm concerned over Townier but not confirmed Town Geript pushing Scummier but not confirmed Scum Damdred over Scummiest LoneMeow. MEH. | ||
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On January 24 2015 16:46 rsoultin wrote: It wasn't amazing, no. What do you think of his play at EoD? End of which day? | ||
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It was bad. He only wanted to lynch JJB who wasn;t getting lynched and then he afk'd | ||
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On January 24 2015 17:13 geript wrote: I will say he has far fewer posts than it felt like he had. Yeah this. Dude is flying under the radar. I was kinda putting him toward the townier end of the spectrum but re-reading his filter I can't really define why I was doing that at all. | ||
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