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On January 19 2015 03:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 03:27 LoneMeow wrote:
rsoultin, so if I somehow manage to convince you to not lynch me, and Trfel isn't viable either, who's the next best choice? I've looked at GB. I can see the complaints, but I think they've been overstated. I've looked at you and my main issue was you didn't seem to care. Trying to help me find a viable lynch would go a long way to help change that opinion. I won't vote for JarJar or LS today. I don't like a push on Shining, either, though I'm less certain on him. WW I think is probably town or he has a weirdly aggressive scum game lol. Getting itchy feelings about Damdred...can't pin down why. I want to hear Geript's poe. He told me that he looks for towns when he plays instead of scum, and lynches from what's left. I'm not sure that I'm seeing that this game, tbh.
Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today.
Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons.
I need to reread Damdred and geript.
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The case on Damdred is basically just one point and some "he knows my play and always gives a read on me" meta? Not very convincing. What about the rest of his play?
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On January 19 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
It's like he was summoned. Did you look at what you said you would, LM?
Just got back and caught up, so not yet. Why are you voting Damdred? Any other reason than GlowingBear's case?
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Not lynching Damdred today unless there's something new on him, I quickly read his filter and I think he's more likely town than not.
I prefer jarjarbinks over GlowingBear despite what I said earlier about not wanting to lynch him today. jarjarbinks just seems to be making apologies and sitting in the background whereas GlowingBear is very vocally pushing for his lynch.
##Vote: jarjarbinks
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Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him.
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##Vote: TheWarWaffle
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##Vote: Trfel
This is where I'm at right now:
Town:
rsoultin
jarjarbinks
LightningStrike
Null:
DarthPunk
The Shining
geript
Damdred
Scum:
Breshke
Trfel
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Breshke is scum.
There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options.
On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in.
Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him.
The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest.
There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis.
Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel.
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On January 22 2015 08:21 Breshke wrote:So i can't be bothered to wait for LM to respond to my last question so im just going to go on. Show nested quote +On January 21 2015 22:40 LoneMeow wrote:Breshke is scum. There's a clear avoidance of committing to any reads, and it's quite scummy how he wants to lynch me without considering other options. On January 20 2015 08:53 Breshke wrote:
So GB flipping town makes damdred fairly townie for what was going on with the wagons between the two.
Also rsoultin is also fairly townie for how hard she was going against trfel especially at times when she seemed to be the only one doing it.
For me that leaves two mafia within the following players given no cc's occur and trfel actually flips mafia
5) DarthPunk (filter)
6) The Shining (filter)
8) LoneMeow (filter)
10) geript (filter)
So for auto i only need one more town read and that would probably be geript for a couple reasons the biggest one being that I don't really see the scum motivation to lead the wagon off of GB (a town) onto warwaffle (another town).
So for next day phase i want to lynch one of the three remaining players and if i was to choose it would probably be LM.
I realize i could easily be wrong on any of my town reads as some of it is fairly weak reasoning so that makes this type of analysis maybe not the best but for now it is the world im living in. Out of this list of 4 people, I can understand why he would not consider geript or DarthPunk at the time of this post, but he makes no explanation of why he picked me over The Shining. In fact, nowhere in his filter does he take any kind of stance on The Shining or analyze him. The only reason he gives for wanting to lynch me is where my vote ended up - he does not analyze why it ended up there, nor try to use the rest of my posting to validate his read in the slightest. There's also a certain lack of going anywhere with his posts, he's content to discuss whether LightningStrike might have fake claimed (as if) and ask questions that don't really go anywhere instead of posting his own analysis. Currently he's by far my best lynch after Trfel. The bolded part gives me an impression that LM can see reason as to why i wouldn't have wanted to lynched geript or DP. This means that he must agree that they have done something townie or he is reading them town or whatever. But if you look at the reads list he just posted DP and Geript are both in his null category the same as the shining so from his PoV this doesn't make sense.
The bolded part meant I can understand why you might think it's not worth considering them (2 active players) over myself and The Shining (2 rather inactive players). It does not mean I think they should not be considered.
The biggest reason I'm reading your scum right now is that you don't seem to bother trying to verify your theory based on votes that I am scum using what I have posted in the game. Have you read my filter? Did you analyze the posts? What conclusions did you come to?
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Breshke, please give your current reads when you're around. A list is fine for now.
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The Shining, you've repeatedly made promises about looking into my play. Did you ever do that, any conclusions?
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On January 22 2015 22:52 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote:
Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him.
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##Vote: TheWarWaffle I'm not Breshke. But this is why I think you're scum, if I had to choose one vote in your entire filter. The JJB one was eh, but GB looked pretty townie imo at the time you posted it, so I don't find it terribly alignment indicative, however that reads like complete contrived BS. WW AFKd a vote on GB (again not alignment indicative, and GB was a scumread for him all game) and trfel only switched to GB a good deal later. It's factually untrue and looks to be grasping at straws to justify a vote change.
You do realise that I did not exactly have all the time in the world to check the sequence of events for deciding whether to switch? Also, why would I even bother to switch if I was scum? Both wagons were on town (I consider jarjarbinks 99.99% confirmed).
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On January 23 2015 08:54 jarjarbinks wrote:
This is about Trfel voting Geript at the beginning.
Do you guys think that Trfel would try to bus BOTH of his mafia bro's? I would definitely hope not. Especially right out of the gate. I could see him bussing one and maybe joining a lynchtrain on the other, but trying to kill off both your buddies seems messed up to me.
If geript turns mafia, PLEASE don't let me be mafia with Trfel lol
But anyways, what are your thoughts on this rsoultin? Think that possibly gives any towncred to geript if LM does turn scum? Definitely an if statement lol
I don't think Trfel's vote on geript was a real bus even if they both turn out to be mafia, since it was not in any way a serious attempt at trying to insinuate geript is scum. So I don't think you can read anything from that vote really.
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On January 23 2015 20:40 The Shining wrote:
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?
Damdred or you.
I like geript a bit more town now, and I'm not quite ready to lynch DarthPunk yet despite getting more paranoid about him.
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But then again, Damdred pushed for lynching Trfel during night 1. Could be a bus, but I think it's somewhat unexpected to bus in that situation.
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On January 24 2015 03:32 geript wrote:
LM, Breshke's posted a decent amount since your last post. Any further reasons you think he's scum?
Not particularly, no. I liked the way he questioned DarthPunk's defense of me, but I sort of disliked the way he got stuck in that counterclaim discussion. Also we seem to share the same paranoid fear of DarthPunk being scum...
So if anything, I'm less sure about him now than I was before.
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On January 24 2015 05:18 Damdred wrote:
Geripts response is interesting. If I'm lynched take note that he never refuted anything I said about his lack of connectivity with the game. Nor does he specifically draw instances of unbellievale read changes.
my read on RS has been static, dp has been mainly unchanged besides thinking maybe he could be on a scum team but ita doubtful. Breshke has put in effort I townread shining before I misread a post then put him back as town. The main one I think would be GB who I've played with 20 times probably.
Overall this is a classic over reaction to try to get people on me.
I bring you to geripts weird read on trfel, him trying to get claims discredited during d3 and his total disconnect from the game and lack of follow up unless provoked.
while I'm playing a bad game I know scum and he is the last after lm
How do you propose one could refute a claim like "you are disconnected from the game"? It's quite a subjective statement, so I don't quite see how it could be refuted with facts, and saying "no I am not" is not exactly useful for anyone. In fact, using such subjective claims is one of the reasons I have you in the pile of possible scum.
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On January 24 2015 07:49 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:On January 24 2015 07:41 geript wrote:
I had a random thought. Why didn't they just kill JJB? They know the setup. Why didn't they kill him on N1? Like no one has claimed anything else. If there's not a medic, then every NK goes through. Where you headed with this? Idk if anywhere honestly. Just weird that they leave a confirmed town around. I get the argument of who it is and they have to kill him at some point. This far into D3 they can't even CC him. Plus the GB kill as really bad. It almost gets me thinking that all the mafia team is inexperienced with dealing with endgame situations. So maybe it could be LM/Shining or similar. It feels important. I wish I knew why though.
This is just ridiculous. Night kills are pure WIFOM, for what it's worth you could be behind the GlowingBear kill and using it to push mislynches with this garbage. I really think you should know better.
Back to the pile of suspicious people you go.
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On January 24 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 08:19 Breshke wrote:
RSo what scumteam are you most paranoid of? Lol, depends on the minute and who posted last sometimes  That's why I'm pushing LM who I'm fairly confident of. This vote should make the first day more clear, and hopefully give us new information to work with. Assuming I'm right on LM, I'm hoping to find the third scum after the vote Day 3. Or at least fully clear 1 or 2 more of my town leans.
Please explain which of your town leans mislynching me would clear and why?
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On January 24 2015 10:09 Breshke wrote:
A team of DP + 1 that isnt LM is making me really paranoid.
I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript.
I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team.
I'm also really kind of worried about DarthPunk. I know I am town and he's distancing himself from the lynch, it just smells scummy especially when the reasons are so weak. But every time I go check on him I can't pin down anything concrete that would give me a real scum read other than this.
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On January 24 2015 10:10 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 03:00 LoneMeow wrote:On January 23 2015 20:40 The Shining wrote:
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?
Damdred or you. I like geript a bit more town now, and I'm not quite ready to lynch DarthPunk yet despite getting more paranoid about him. Well, at least I got the who. Low hanging fruit in me, basically inactive town. ##Vote:LoneMeow I might be willing to pull off of you if you can explain what makes us more suspicious than anyone else but I've been weary of you for a while and your appearances now make it worse. Still feels like you are just looking for an easy place to drop your vote. You have no real case aside from Breshke once he scummed you(OMGUS?) and the 3 people you've scummed or been suspicious of are Bresh, Damdred, myself, all of whom have earlier posts directly questioning you and commenting on your filter. The inconsistencies pointed out in some of your posts seem hastily thrown together, not a genuine effort to look into anyone. Had planned on posting more including responding to Bresh asking me to explain my DP town read(which is weakest of the 3, hence why its bottom) but Friday nights at work are hectic, been working on this post on my tablet for about an hour. Going to look through DP's filter for the specific posts that made me lean town on him. But I'm here, should be in and out for the next 2-3 hours if anyone wants to bounce anything off of me.
You promised to look into why you have a town lean on DarthPunk here, but you never delivered despite posting several times after this. Please get to it when you're around.
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