New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia

On January 07 2015 07:01 sicklucker wrote:
You always out your role on game one, like in literally everygame. So please keep that to a minimum its not good for town

On January 07 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote:


First game you claimed cop day1
second game you were mafia
third game you claimed a role on day 1. You were like barely a role
fourth game you claimed vt on day 1 (metal)
fifth game .........
your 6th game please dont do it thanks.

Coaching towns to victorys

On January 07 2015 10:21 sicklucker wrote:
I see a big leak in his town game. I roll town its a good time to fix that and increase my chances of winning If I roll scum I dont want him to know.

Its not tmi your over thinking it. There is like probably 11/14 chance hes town. Thats really good odds

He claimed his role in everyone of his 4 or 5 games. Its a very bad thing to do im trying to lead town to victory!

So lets go to bed and get fresh heads and not graph at straws. Goodnight

On January 07 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote:


First game you claimed cop day1
second game you were mafia
third game you claimed a role on day 1. You were like barely a role
fourth game you claimed vt on day 1 (metal)
fifth game .........
your 6th game please dont do it thanks.

Coaching towns to victorys

On January 08 2015 01:45 sicklucker wrote:
Your concerns are bad eden like what do you want me to adress? I love when we play 21 qeustions

On January 07 2015 23:51 sicklucker wrote:
Hts whats your read on me? about the ls thing? why do you ignore this?

On January 07 2015 22:40 Half the Sky wrote:


As far as this game is concerned, making general comments like that to me is not alignment indicative at best, could be scum behaviour for detracting from the current game.

On January 07 2015 23:39 Half the Sky wrote:


Right now, from the posts I've seen so far, I'm leaning town on Bunnies for her post evaluating the 2-3 reads she did (she's trying, no?), leaning scum on SL (previously mentioned), leaning scum on LS (his posts are a bit of fluff, plus posts that detract).

On January 08 2015 05:41 sicklucker wrote:
Hey bunnies if your veg again can you hit this obvious mafia because these guys are probably about to fight about stupid shit

On January 08 2015 00:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Oh, no. I noticed his answer, and I wholeheartedly agree that him answering was a complete delay.
Also, I was gonna follow up with a question on him on why he cared what you think, and why the information on how the game will be harder is even relevant in terms of finding scum.

I'm also disappointed in the fact that I was gone for 9 hours, and we only have one page of posts since.

Now Breshke. What is your view on Lian?

Do you agree with some of the cases that have been thrown around?

On January 08 2015 07:05 sicklucker wrote:


He went a reread stuff and gave his usual cute defend everyone answer. But he did defend a confirmed mafia so your right it might be a bad read

On January 08 2015 08:16 sicklucker wrote:


i found scum...

On January 08 2015 09:00 sicklucker wrote:


then your bad because I found one

On January 07 2015 23:51 sicklucker wrote:
Hts whats your read on me? about the ls thing? why do you ignore this?

On January 08 2015 01:46 Half the Sky wrote:


Sicklucker, clearly you aren't reading the thread...I wasn't ignoring it.





I gave my read on you in the post literally before your question.

On January 08 2015 08:01 liancourt wrote:
SL stop defending LS and being useless and find scum.

I want your opinion on obi

On January 08 2015 06:59 Breshke wrote:


Meh, most of the cases on Lian are that he is acting differently to how he normally does and i have no idea if this is true or what it means because im too lazy to read past games. I don't understand why he is purposly acting like a dick because if he is town i don't think that's the way to go about getting people to listen to you but being a dick doesn't equal mafia. I do think he is town though because even though his case is shit on LS he seems to actually want people to comment on it and that feels town motivated to me. I am intrested to see what happens when he comes back to the thread though.

So i also think bunnies is town because the questions she has been asking while may not be like scum hunting are obviously there to get conversation flowing which is obviously something this game needs so im happy to call her town for now.

I was also liking Eden because he seemed to be on the same thought process as me about sicklucker but has seemingly flipped now for reasons that i feel are really weak.

Also sicklucker could you explain how you went from scum to null on LS (I've included your posts and the only one he made in between in the spoiler tag.

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 07 2015 22:58 mderg wrote:
Any reads so far, HTS?

On January 08 2015 09:39 sicklucker wrote:
Htf obi was a role he was trying to look scummy in carol of the bells. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE THE OTHER ROLE INTENTIONAL BEING SCUMMY?

On January 08 2015 12:27 sicklucker wrote:
Breske ninja voted me. Like unless its like a pure pressure vote its so weird. Ive played like 30 days of mafia with breske and hes never voted me even tho he scum read me for like 25 of those days. And now hes voting me for such a weak reason. Does anyone else honestly think im scum so far?

There no mafia motivation for me to push this hard day 1. I have no potential partner being voted because no ones voted yet

A hts and breske team could be a thing.

On January 08 2015 21:38 Eden1892 wrote:

Different this game compared to which? I didn't see a significant change from Imperial.

And are you saying sicklucker is the kill? I think Vayne is probably the kill for reasons I'll explain in a bit. If you want sicklucker instead you're gonna have to sell me on it.

On January 09 2015 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
cop didnt die n2? you were the cop wtf is this lie

On January 09 2015 06:56 sicklucker wrote:
breske will you join us and ruin someones day?

On January 09 2015 08:04 Trfel wrote:

LightningStrike (0): liancourt
sicklucker (0): Eden1892, Breshke
liancourt (0): mderg
VayneAuthority (8): liancourt, Half the Sky, Oatsmaster, LightningStrike, batsnacks, ObiWanShinobi, Breshke, lalipop, Eden1892
Oatsmaster (1): 27ninjabunnies
Half the Sky (3): mderg, sicklucker, DrParnassus, lalipop
27ninjabunnies (0): DrParnassus, DrParnassus

Currently, VayneAuthority is set to be lynched with 5 votes.

until deadline.

On January 11 2015 12:02 sicklucker wrote:
Wtf you didnt have a blockable role in carol but I sapose you probably were blocked n1 if the they had. Its so hard to figure out your alignment because you can just play dumb on anything.

Im more worried about when you claimed vt in metal and the newbie game when under no presure. This just lets mafia know your not a role and narrow their targets down

On January 11 2015 1
3:04 DrParnassus wrote:
breshke is sicklucker's claim making you doubt his alignment?

On January 13 2015 07:32 sicklucker wrote:
So you sheeped me the right person today =]

On January 14 2015 01:48 sicklucker wrote:
So I wasint roleblocked last night which is interesting because that means mafia didnt believe my claim. This leaves me to believe one of lian or eden have to be mafia based on meta. It could also just be dr. and mderg and they acualy believed I was a miller but they cant be that stupid can they?

Well whoever the mafia is didnt bother to read the roles because they wasted their roleblock on obi last night.

On January 14 2015 02:02 sicklucker wrote:
Anyway im a townwatcher are third and last power role. Bats lack of insight here means hes confirmed town.
Theres always going to be 3 power roles in this setup and never 4. So unless a mafia cc's me you have to believe me unless your terrible.

On January 08 2015 07:01 Breshke wrote:
Eden why aren't I on either of your lists?

First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.

On January 12 2015 06:58 Trfel wrote:

ObiWanShinobi (0): batsnacks, lalipop
Half the Sky (0): sicklucker, DrParnassus, mderg
LightningStrike (1): liancourt, batsnacks, Breshke
lalipop (4): liancourt, Breshke, sicklucker, DrParnassus, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892, batsnacks
DrParnassus (2): Oatsmaster, liancourt, lalipop
Oatsmaster (4): Eden1892, mderg, Eden1892, lalipop, LightningStrike, Breshke
liancourt (0): LightningStrike, lalipop

Oatsmaster has been lynched!

On January 10 2015 15:45 Eden1892 wrote:

First thought is LOL at trying to do vca on this. Two wagons, one town, the other unknown, clear majority, only outlier vote is confirmed town b/c she was shot right afterward. No layups

In situations like these where the main wagon is town and we don't know the other wagon, we first want to look at the rationale people gave for their votes. The first person I notice is myself, because I didn't give any, because I'm a donkey and I slept through EOD and only managed to slap a fast vote down to avoid mod sanction. No johns, I suck, sorry guys.

Instead I'm going to look at the other people who coasted on the lead wagon.

First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.

Second is Oatsmaster, his case on Vayne is also not the correct case IMO. It's weird that it's the opposite of liancourt's, and that in the course of discussing this read neither one of them ended up arguing with the other about it. I guess maybe he didn't have to push as hard because Vayne became the lynch fairly quick, but it seems like he pretty much parked his vote and left.

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Other notes:

- sicklucker and LightningStrike are probably town, they've both been pretty active and have pushed their lynch hard. I don't think either of the cases they made on their targets d1 were actually good, but I think they were genuine, which is all I need to see to make a read.

- Half the Sky looks reasonably good to me as well. The one thing irking me a bit is that she read me as town for making a "detailed case" on Vayne when I don't remember ever doing so, but it's obvious she cares about the direction of the game. Her interaction with sicklucker about the past game seems sincere enough - I know it's not directly relevant to this game, but I think the entire conversation reads town, go open her filter and find that bit and read for yourselves so you can see what I mean - and she's been rather open with her thoughts.

- batsnacks is sorta vulnerable to the same logic that implicates liancourt, but batsnacks still pushed reasonably hard on Obi while voting Vayne and tried to get a last-minute vote on Obi instead of Vayne. This strikes me as more of what I'd expect a townie to do if his primary suspect were off the table: go after a secondary one while taking his chances at getting the primary suspect killed instead. I also think he's been a lot more forthright and sincere than liancourt, so I find myself okay with batsnacks, even though to some extent he does the same thing that liancourt does.

- Obi already called out liancourt for the big thing I noticed earlier, so he's town in my mind for now. Obi does end up criticizing the VA lynch while staying on it, but if you read his filter it seems fairly clear that he got caught with insufficient time to figure out anything else to do due to out-of-game constraints. It's not like he peaced out from the thread and coasted. I can give him a pass on that.

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That's all I feel like doing right now, I'll do more later on but this seems good enough to start with.

Town: me, Obi, HTS, SL, LS, bats
Mafia: Oats, lian
TBD: Breshke, lollipop, derg, Doc