New Years Eve Party Mini Mafia - Page 6

On January 15 2015 07:52 liancourt wrote:
u have not once directly called mderg mafia

On January 15 2015 07:40 Eden1892 wrote:

OK, this is actually a pretty good point.

On January 15 2015 07:57 sicklucker wrote:



I told you yesterday why dr was town but you choose to ignore me.

On January 15 2015 08:04 liancourt wrote:
the thing regarding my voting with oats and ls: I voted first, I didn't vote with my scum reads. I pushed VA then slept because deadline is 7 am and i cant wake up at deadline to push my lynches.

regarding SL, lala, drp vote: I rnged because thread was dead. i voted lala because lala had absolutely no content whatsoever. Banged my vote on drp because drp's content wasnt good either. I didnt feel the need to explain all my actions because i really didnt give a damn about the game at that time because game was literally on life support and needed cpr. Was really uniterested in the game.

My switch to drp at the end: So I could live and he didnt have any good content today either. I pushed my mderg lynch but nobody gave a hoot.

I'm lynching eden tomorrow. Not going to move my vote. Ever.

First one to 3 votes gets lynched. Team LS bats lian vs lala eden mderg

On January 16 2015 10:48 sicklucker wrote:
So i checked lian so there would be no doubt on him so we can just kill mderg/eden and maybe consider bats at some point.
If lian was mafia I felt he was most likely to deliver kp for his team because I dont suspect him. So now we should put that world out of are head.

Mafia didnt kill me so expect an obvious cc from a fake cop or something? I donno

On January 16 2015 10:44 sicklucker wrote:


you. you didnt travel. So lets not kill you. Wtf why didnt mafia kill me? I must be right and there tooo afraid who died didnt look yet

On January 16 2015 12:10 sicklucker wrote:
Checking my scum reads is kind of pointless because im going to vote them anyway. There also gonna be too afraid to use kp and if theres a mafia in bats or loli they will always be the one delivering the kp.

Bats is playing dumb about not knowing about how scum has to pick a player to deliver kp so hes probably town.

Like im going to kill eden and mderg anyway so why waste a check on them? Id rather eliminate worlds where im wrong.

Also in the event im somehow alive I expect mafia to put doubt on my claim anyway.

On January 16 2015 12:13 sicklucker wrote:


Well who cares im voting mderg? Hes lians partner remember?

We kill mderg hes mafia. Then ill check you tonight if mafias dumb enough to leave me alive and I can confirm your alignment what do you have to be scared of? And if they kill me you can convince whoever else is alive to vote someone else

On January 16 2015 12:34 sicklucker wrote:
Eden why am I still alive tho? If its lians mafia plan to afk vote you and go for the win. Wheres the mafia motivation in risking keeping me in the game and finding mafia?

Who did ls say he was going to vote for? It was you right?

Let me explain my thoughts. Whoever mafia is is keeping the option of a counter claim open. Thats the only reason I can be alive. If lian wants to afk as mafia it cant be him. Unless hes just lying about that.

On January 10 2015 15:45 Eden1892 wrote:

First thought is LOL at trying to do vca on this. Two wagons, one town, the other unknown, clear majority, only outlier vote is confirmed town b/c she was shot right afterward. No layups

In situations like these where the main wagon is town and we don't know the other wagon, we first want to look at the rationale people gave for their votes. The first person I notice is myself, because I didn't give any, because I'm a donkey and I slept through EOD and only managed to slap a fast vote down to avoid mod sanction. No johns, I suck, sorry guys.

Instead I'm going to look at the other people who coasted on the lead wagon.

First is liancourt. Most of his d1 posting by far is pushing LightningStrike, then ObiWanShinobi. Then he ends up voting with both on VayneAuthority, because VA wasn't trying d1. This is an odd sequence of events to me because (1) I don't think that's the strongest case to be made on VA and (2) liancourt claims to have only given up on pushing LS and Obi because the pushes weren't getting traction, which should mean he didn't stop suspecting them, and yet he ends up voting for the same guy as them. I know that even if I had failed to convince people to kill my suspects, two of them voting together on someone would have given me a great deal of pause. liancourt just lets the kill happen.

Second is Oatsmaster, his case on Vayne is also not the correct case IMO. It's weird that it's the opposite of liancourt's, and that in the course of discussing this read neither one of them ended up arguing with the other about it. I guess maybe he didn't have to push as hard because Vayne became the lynch fairly quick, but it seems like he pretty much parked his vote and left.

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Other notes:

- sicklucker and LightningStrike are probably town, they've both been pretty active and have pushed their lynch hard. I don't think either of the cases they made on their targets d1 were actually good, but I think they were genuine, which is all I need to see to make a read.

- Half the Sky looks reasonably good to me as well. The one thing irking me a bit is that she read me as town for making a "detailed case" on Vayne when I don't remember ever doing so, but it's obvious she cares about the direction of the game. Her interaction with sicklucker about the past game seems sincere enough - I know it's not directly relevant to this game, but I think the entire conversation reads town, go open her filter and find that bit and read for yourselves so you can see what I mean - and she's been rather open with her thoughts.

- batsnacks is sorta vulnerable to the same logic that implicates liancourt, but batsnacks still pushed reasonably hard on Obi while voting Vayne and tried to get a last-minute vote on Obi instead of Vayne. This strikes me as more of what I'd expect a townie to do if his primary suspect were off the table: go after a secondary one while taking his chances at getting the primary suspect killed instead. I also think he's been a lot more forthright and sincere than liancourt, so I find myself okay with batsnacks, even though to some extent he does the same thing that liancourt does.

- Obi already called out liancourt for the big thing I noticed earlier, so he's town in my mind for now. Obi does end up criticizing the VA lynch while staying on it, but if you read his filter it seems fairly clear that he got caught with insufficient time to figure out anything else to do due to out-of-game constraints. It's not like he peaced out from the thread and coasted. I can give him a pass on that.

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That's all I feel like doing right now, I'll do more later on but this seems good enough to start with.

Town: me, Obi, HTS, SL, LS, bats
Mafia: Oats, lian
TBD: Breshke, lollipop, derg, Doc

On January 13 2015 17:48 Eden1892 wrote:
So like I said before, back on day 1 liancourt pushed LS and Obi then voted with them on Vayne. Quoting my post on the subject from n1:



liancourt never had a satisfactory reply to this, which I think is pretty damning on its own.

It's even more damning when we look at the Day 2 vote count.



Presuming for the moment that lalalipop is town, we have two town wagons at the end of d2, and liancourt is... voting for DrParnassus. Who he literally discusses once in d2 (calls DrP unmemorable). I'm serious, read his filter, that's it. He doesn't even say he voted for DrP. He said he was going to RNG vote sicklucker, and I'm not sure if that was a joke or something he intended to do but didn't, because he doesn't say anything else about his suspects that day. He certainly doesn't push DrP. He just wastes his vote on an outlier for a reason that sounds good, but instead of pushing that good reason to get a lynch he just... does nothing.

##VOTE: liancourt

On January 18 2015 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
Oh I agree your second. That doesint mean your town. I have higher standards from you