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On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates.
LS, there is a difference between scumhunting and finding scum. He is scumhunting, but very well could be on the wrong track. How many times have we said in games that just because someone is town, that they are not always correct?
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On January 10 2015 01:49 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates. LS, there is a difference between scumhunting and finding scum. He is scumhunting, but very well could be on the wrong track. How many times have we said in games that just because someone is town, that they are not always correct?
Let me ask what is track record so far on finding scum? I found 0 because I know I'm town and Celestial is a Uncounterclaimed Doctor. Scum likes to go for easy mislynches and me and Celestial are unfortunatly easy mislynches.
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On January 10 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:42 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates. You can't really scum him for not finding any scum yet. None of us have. He only been scum reading town why else why would he go after me and Celestial?
By that logic I'm the scummiest scum who's ever scummed before.
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On January 10 2015 01:52 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On January 10 2015 01:42 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates. You can't really scum him for not finding any scum yet. None of us have. He only been scum reading town why else why would he go after me and Celestial? By that logic I'm the scummiest scum who's ever scummed before.
He far better than you in terms of scummiest of scum becasue he bothering to make cases which is seen townie but he using to get rid of townies though that my issue with him. Step it up in memory of me this game and we call it even since I led your mislynch and you leading mine.
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On January 10 2015 01:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:49 Half the Sky wrote:On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates. LS, there is a difference between scumhunting and finding scum. He is scumhunting, but very well could be on the wrong track. How many times have we said in games that just because someone is town, that they are not always correct? Let me ask what is track record so far on finding scum? I found 0 because I know I'm town and Celestial is a Uncounterclaimed Doctor. Scum likes to go for easy mislynches and me and Celestial are unfortunatly easy mislynches.
Celestial is not an easy mlynch. In fact he's not getting lynched. He was pretty highly regarded town before his wagon began.
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On January 10 2015 01:53 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:51 LightningStrike wrote:On January 10 2015 01:49 Half the Sky wrote:On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates. LS, there is a difference between scumhunting and finding scum. He is scumhunting, but very well could be on the wrong track. How many times have we said in games that just because someone is town, that they are not always correct? Let me ask what is track record so far on finding scum? I found 0 because I know I'm town and Celestial is a Uncounterclaimed Doctor. Scum likes to go for easy mislynches and me and Celestial are unfortunatly easy mislynches. Celestial is not an easy mlynch. In fact he's not getting lynched. He was pretty highly regarded town before his wagon began.
Guess who started his wagon? Hint: The guy I voting.
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On January 10 2015 01:53 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:52 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On January 10 2015 01:42 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates. You can't really scum him for not finding any scum yet. None of us have. He only been scum reading town why else why would he go after me and Celestial? By that logic I'm the scummiest scum who's ever scummed before. He far better than you in terms of scummiest of scum becasue he bothering to make cases which is seen townie but he using to get rid of townies though that my issue with him. Step it up in memory of me this game and we call it even since I led your mislynch and you leading mine.
Uh, FecalFeast lead my mlynch in carol. At least he started it, rsoultin and HTS kept it alive if I remember.
I ACTUALLY MURDERED A BLUE ROLE. HOW CAN THAT BE LESS SCUMMY IN YOUR WORLD THAN A SIMPLE CASE THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE??
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On January 10 2015 01:56 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:53 LightningStrike wrote:On January 10 2015 01:52 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On January 10 2015 01:42 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates. You can't really scum him for not finding any scum yet. None of us have. He only been scum reading town why else why would he go after me and Celestial? By that logic I'm the scummiest scum who's ever scummed before. He far better than you in terms of scummiest of scum becasue he bothering to make cases which is seen townie but he using to get rid of townies though that my issue with him. Step it up in memory of me this game and we call it even since I led your mislynch and you leading mine. Uh, FecalFeast lead my mlynch in carol. At least he started it, rsoultin and HTS kept it alive if I remember. I ACTUALLY MURDERED A BLUE ROLE. HOW CAN THAT BE LESS SCUMMY IN YOUR WORLD THAN A SIMPLE CASE THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE??
I made the case on you before FecalFeast got on it.
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Also you said you were tunneled which I believed you did and with my mother being ill at the time I just couldn't conentrate so I tunneled on TheWarWaffle.
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On January 10 2015 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
2. I didn't believe the soft blue claim because if I was scum I would Soft Claim blue myself although I didn't in Student Mafia IV but that was because both of the Blue roles were killed in the first 36 hours of the game so I couldn't soft claim blue in that game. Generally speaking scum would soft claim blue more likely than a town that what the impression I gotten from looking at other games.
3. I wanted to see how Shining would act in Day 2 to confirm the case from rsoultin and it doesn't seem to match.
So if Shining is your top scum read or was, how do you feel about him now? Why ExO and not him?
Your vote on ExO seems to be partial OMGUS as he was scumreading you. I am going into ExO's filter again and trying to imagine a world where someone has posted the way he has is scum.
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On January 10 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
2. I didn't believe the soft blue claim because if I was scum I would Soft Claim blue myself although I didn't in Student Mafia IV but that was because both of the Blue roles were killed in the first 36 hours of the game so I couldn't soft claim blue in that game. Generally speaking scum would soft claim blue more likely than a town that what the impression I gotten from looking at other games.
3. I wanted to see how Shining would act in Day 2 to confirm the case from rsoultin and it doesn't seem to match. So if Shining is your top scum read or was, how do you feel about him now? Why ExO and not him? Your vote on ExO seems to be partial OMGUS as he was scumreading you. I am going into ExO's filter again and trying to imagine a world where someone has posted the way he has is scum.
Because I now town reading Shining after the NK on Tfrel because he was defending me and Shining softly. Mafia wanted a easy way to mislynch me that's all my girlfriend.
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On January 10 2015 01:56 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:56 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:53 LightningStrike wrote:On January 10 2015 01:52 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:49 LightningStrike wrote:On January 10 2015 01:42 Tubesock wrote:On January 10 2015 01:41 LightningStrike wrote:
ExO have to be scum he called me and Celestial scum when we were town with Celestial being a Uncounterclaimed Doctor and never found scum because he is scum and doesn't want to call out his teammates. You can't really scum him for not finding any scum yet. None of us have. He only been scum reading town why else why would he go after me and Celestial? By that logic I'm the scummiest scum who's ever scummed before. He far better than you in terms of scummiest of scum becasue he bothering to make cases which is seen townie but he using to get rid of townies though that my issue with him. Step it up in memory of me this game and we call it even since I led your mislynch and you leading mine. Uh, FecalFeast lead my mlynch in carol. At least he started it, rsoultin and HTS kept it alive if I remember. I ACTUALLY MURDERED A BLUE ROLE. HOW CAN THAT BE LESS SCUMMY IN YOUR WORLD THAN A SIMPLE CASE THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE?? I made the case on you before FecalFeast got on it.
Ok fine. Uncle.
Build a case on ExO then. Please try try to make sure you make sense and the mafia motivations in his play.
Heads up though. Citing him building a case on a town isn't valid evidence. There were what 3-4 others with cases on celestial?
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First edivence for my case for ExO_ being scum this Quote right here:
On January 06 2015 08:26 ExO_ wrote:I'm home now and I think I have my first really solid scum read. But starting off with HTS: I thought she had posted significantly more than she had. But what she has posted I've largely approved of. Her posts, to me, seem reasonable but she's not shying away from giving scum reads. She has been helpful without being rude, while being concise. I think she's town, and definitely not a day 1 lynch candidate. However take a look at LS in these 2 quotes: Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:50 LightningStrike wrote:+ Show Spoiler +My new player reads I never played with before since you asked for them HTS -Celestial-: Town since he gave a lot of good points on why his reads were they were the way they were although he did make a mistake on editing and hoping he not modkilled. Gumdrop: I need some more posts to figure him out. Jarjarbinks: Need more posts from him but he got some excuses for why he so little posts so far. I hope he feels better and can play like like his brother! The Shining: Town for now since she asking some questions and looks like she trying to figure this game out but again I need more posts from him to confirm my thoughts of him being town. Silverate: I need more posts from her to determine her alignment. ExO_: Need more posts from because other than the nitpicking on your post there is nothing for me to look at  TheWarWaffle: Town he at least tried to break down the stuff in your post and explain in his mine what the stuff means and asking questions about it. I hope he post more so I can confirm my read on him! Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 06 2015 00:18 Half the Sky wrote:
LS, unless I am misreading your sentence, moderator situations are not alignment indicative, but that aside, Celestial looks good for the most part for the in-depth analysis. I am a little surprised though you mentioned you had nothing alignment indicative on any of the veterans.
Celestial I have a question for you regarding your read on Rasputin. Since Shining also commented on bluehunting, was there something in the content that jumped at you or was it just his manner of scumhunting that indicated bluehunting?
Having played with Rasputin before, and taking on a proper D1 meta read, particularly from Carol, my impression was that he will ask questions if something sounds weird, if I recall right, he threw around many posts at people as he criticised circular reasoning and lack of explanations (which happened loads in that game), but didn't go as far to read scum let alone vote people for poor reasoning in of itself. I was just sharing my thoughts on his edit on his post and was hoping he not get modkilled lol. Also on alignment of the vets I not played with you guys when you guys were scum but I do have a slight feeling you and Rsoultin are town again and thought of a funny situation where you tfrel and rsoultin are scum vs me in a dream. Also it's Day 1 and my reads on Day 1 are normally poor except on Metal Mini on Palmar and KSC on Carol of the Bells as scum but I wasn't confident in my scum read there. That just my thoughts for now. The theme here, is "everybody's town". Not a single scum read here. He has a lot of posts, but when I read his filter I don't see scum hunting. I see him not ruffling feathers of anybody in particular. He's even got a nice little "my reads on day 1 are normally poor" excuse lined up all nice and pretty. nope nope nope. I see scum ##Vote: LightningStrike
Well sure he might not know my meta but there were many lurkers at the time I made the reads in that Quote which he completely disreguarding.
Second Quote for ExO__ being scum is this Quote after I claimed VT early:
On January 07 2015 05:27 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 05:12 LightningStrike wrote:I'm Vanilla Town this game I wish I was a Cop to redeem myself from Campus Mafia Nope I don't believe it. I think LS is mafia and believe we can nab him right now.
Now if I was mafia then why I would claim VT at Day 1 when that will hinder me more than anything for the future? Something he doesn't try to come up to why I would claim VT on Day 1.
He also seem to just tunnel on 1 target at a time when he feels like would "Good lynches" but however if you look they are the easiest mislynches in this game 1st he unexplainly swap his vote to TheWarWaffle and didn't say a thing on why he did. He went back to me then later on swap to Celestial a little bit later after rsoultin said she would go for a Celeistal wagon and since almost half the game is town reading rsoultin but seeing as the wagon on me wouldn't grow so he on to Celestial which btw he didn't scum read until his case on him.
That's all I got for the case but if you finding other edivence on him being scum let me know right away.
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On January 10 2015 02:01 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Your vote on ExO seems to be partial OMGUS as he was scumreading you. I am going into ExO's filter again and trying to imagine a world where someone has posted the way he has is scum.
Because I now town reading Shining after the NK on Tfrel because he was defending me and Shining softly. Mafia wanted a easy way to mislynch me that's all my girlfriend.
I understand your perspective, but this is a WIFOM argument, and no scum have flipped.
Reviewing your case.
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LS, looking through at your case. Comment on your first point...
Town should be trying to find scum reasons to lynch (over policy) and that's what he's doing. You are contesting in your first point that he should be going for lurkers. He is not posting much but he's still prioritising what he feels is scum.
He doesn't know your meta...fine, but where are the flaws in his methods?
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On January 10 2015 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:
He also seem to just tunnel on 1 target at a time when he feels like would "Good lynches" but however if you look they are the easiest mislynches in this game 1st he unexplainly swap his vote to TheWarWaffle and didn't say a thing on why he did. He went back to me then later on swap to Celestial a little bit later after rsoultin said she would go for a Celeistal wagon and since almost half the game is town reading rsoultin but seeing as the wagon on me wouldn't grow so he on to Celestial which btw he didn't scum read until his case on him.
That's all I got for the case but if you finding other edivence on him being scum let me know right away.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold the damn press.
On January 07 2015 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Day 1 Final Vote Count
jarjarbinks (1): ExO_, -Celestial-
LightningStrike (2): ExO_, -Celestial-, Trfel, TheWarWaffle
Gumdrop (0): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (5): rsoultin, LightningStrike, Silverarte, Tubesock, The Shining
Tubesock (0): TheWarWaffle
ExO_ (1): Gumdrop, The Shining
The Shining (3): Half the Sky, Trfel, jarjarbinks
TheWarWaffle has been lynched.
Unless the mods screwed up, ExO NEVER voted WarWaffle.
What are you talking about?
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Also you need to note that he gains the most from Tfrel death because Tfrel was pushing to not lynch me or Shining and would of slowed my mislynch and scum like mislynches more than town.
I wasn't conteswting he should go to lurkers I said he was disreguarding my lurker reads and said I was town reading everyone where I said that the lurkers I need more posts from them to figure out their alignment -_-
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On January 10 2015 02:39 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:
He also seem to just tunnel on 1 target at a time when he feels like would "Good lynches" but however if you look they are the easiest mislynches in this game 1st he unexplainly swap his vote to TheWarWaffle and didn't say a thing on why he did. He went back to me then later on swap to Celestial a little bit later after rsoultin said she would go for a Celeistal wagon and since almost half the game is town reading rsoultin but seeing as the wagon on me wouldn't grow so he on to Celestial which btw he didn't scum read until his case on him.
That's all I got for the case but if you finding other edivence on him being scum let me know right away. Wait, wait, wait. Hold the damn press. Show nested quote +On January 07 2015 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Day 1 Final Vote Count
jarjarbinks (1): ExO_, -Celestial-
LightningStrike (2): ExO_, -Celestial-, Trfel, TheWarWaffle
Gumdrop (0): Tubesock
TheWarWaffle (5): rsoultin, LightningStrike, Silverarte, Tubesock, The Shining
Tubesock (0): TheWarWaffle
ExO_ (1): Gumdrop, The Shining
The Shining (3): Half the Sky, Trfel, jarjarbinks
TheWarWaffle has been lynched. Unless the mods screwed up, ExO NEVER voted WarWaffle. What are you talking about?
In his filter at least he said he didn't mind a lynch on to TheWarWaffle. I thought saw something where he explained his thoughts on TheWarWaffle after the lynch.
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On January 10 2015 02:42 LightningStrike wrote:
I wasn't conteswting he should go to lurkers I said he was disreguarding my lurker reads and said I was town reading everyone where I said that the lurkers I need more posts from them to figure out their alignment -_-
Okay, that is fair, and I did ask you that question.
But this...I mean COME ON.
On January 10 2015 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:
He also seem to just tunnel on 1 target at a time when he feels like would "Good lynches" but however if you look they are the easiest mislynches in this game 1st he unexplainly swap his vote to TheWarWaffle and didn't say a thing on why he did. He went back to me then later on swap to Celestial a little bit later after rsoultin said she would go for a Celeistal wagon and since almost half the game is town reading rsoultin but seeing as the wagon on me wouldn't grow so he on to Celestial which btw he didn't scum read until his case on him.
That's all I got for the case but if you finding other edivence on him being scum let me know right away.
On January 10 2015 02:44 LightningStrike wrote:
In his filter at least he said he didn't mind a lynch on to TheWarWaffle. I thought saw something where he explained his thoughts on TheWarWaffle after the lynch.
Look, I dove into his filter.
This is absolutely ridiculous. I went through his filter. Page 2. He discusses bizarre reads prior to lynch why he's scumreading WW. He even challenges Trfel on why he's a scum lynch and not a policy lynch. Why are you saying he's "unexplainly" swapping his vote. And he didn't even vote WarWaffle in the end. He said he didn't mind a lynch but felt you were the best candidate. So he kept his vote on you.
This reeks of you distorting the facts. I'm sorry, this isn't personal, but if this isn't the most clear evidence you aren't scum, I don't know what is.
And if for some reason you are not scum, I think Tubesock is going to have some competition post-game as to who will wind up with the biggest ban from TL with the post-game commentary.
##vote LightningStrike
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Then I will let it happen. When you see I'm town maybe you think I was batsnacks this game but I'm not him 
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