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On January 04 2015 10:05 Superbia wrote:
geript, you feel like you have a god-read on Marv right? Why have you been so wishy-washy on him?
Partly because I haven't been super motivated this game. Plus, I tend to be thrown off as town when I get a bunch of attention and aren't super try-hard. While my early reads are usually quite good, they're not perfect. And I think the more D1 went on the more on tilt I got and the less interested (and therefore careful). My interactions with him really reminded me of Avogadro's where basically all the vets townread each other, then VE scumread me and essentially we all started scumreading or in the least not trusting each other the way we initially did. So considering the fact that it was NYE and I was more interested in other things (mostly league and an occaisional drink), I just figured it's best to take a clean slate to it. His overall play today feels more objective, snarky and "town marv" I know. But it's also very hard for me to gain objectivity once I've lost it. So I think I'll probably double guess that read all game long and will throw me for a loop regardless of what he flipps.
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On January 04 2015 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Geript have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?
I really want to make some snarky comment here about sex, but I just don't have it in me right now.
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On January 04 2015 10:15 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 10:14 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Geript have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? I really want to make some snarky comment here about sex, but I just don't have it in me right now. I am disappoint. So tell me more about how you think I'm mafia bro.
??? I think you're mafia?
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IDK, like you came in like how I remembered you in Avogadros. I think your town. I could be wrong, but I just figure that you feel like you're more into your old play (reasonably active) than some of your more recent play. Which btw I'm happy to see. I just don't feel like your Boardwalk VE here.
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On January 04 2015 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah you've said like twice that "Within this group of 4 random vets is 2 mafia" or something along those lines and my name has been included each time. Why?
No I think there's only one between Marv, you, Artanis, Palmer, VE, DrH. Maybe 2, but that's unlikely. Rather look at the NKs. Those are the type of NKs I see when there's a covert vet who's being townread. You need to keep some number of vets alive and time your NKs so that ideally you're the last one standing in an ideal LYLO/MYLO after 2-3 mislynches.
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On January 04 2015 10:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 10:00 sicklucker wrote:On January 04 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote:
SL answer the questions please. Im working angles son. and if im right or wrong thinking ofdoing it gerit just claimed mafia like theirs no way around that Geript claimed being a decent human being. I believe his claim. On January 04 2015 10:01 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote:
Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before. But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. But were you universally townread at that point? No one voiced suspicion on JAT at that point, only I was a bit paranoid. Maybe you're right on GB. I like your point. It's pretty pointy. I don't think I want to lynch you anymore. Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways.
And most people townread you well before the lynch. While the point does suit does favor the point I'm making, it also doesn't make it less true. I don't think I've ever seen you hard carry as town. Or be NK'd on D1 by mafia. Whereas I'm pretty sure I've seen you hard carry scum at least a few times.
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Gonna chill and watch the game for a bit.
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On January 04 2015 10:31 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 10:29 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 10:24 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 10:00 sicklucker wrote:On January 04 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote:
SL answer the questions please. Im working angles son. and if im right or wrong thinking ofdoing it gerit just claimed mafia like theirs no way around that Geript claimed being a decent human being. I believe his claim. On January 04 2015 10:01 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote:
Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before. But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. But were you universally townread at that point? No one voiced suspicion on JAT at that point, only I was a bit paranoid. Maybe you're right on GB. I like your point. It's pretty pointy. I don't think I want to lynch you anymore. Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways. And most people townread you well before the lynch. While the point does suit does favor the point I'm making, it also doesn't make it less true. I don't think I've ever seen you hard carry as town. Or be NK'd on D1 by mafia. Whereas I'm pretty sure I've seen you hard carry scum at least a few times. You didn't play in even a single one of my scumgames. I hard carried as town before and I have been NK'd night 1 multiple times. Not that this is in any shape or form relevant to this game.
I'm pretty sure I've played in 2-3 of your scum games. I don't think I've played or read any game where you've been NK'd N1 and I defenitelly haven't ever seen you hardcarry as town.
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On January 04 2015 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I have no idea what any of your night-kill logic means. That just looks scummy to me breh. So you're saying that my name is on that list not because you think I've done anything mafia, but because you think you've discerned a pattern in the nightkills and the players on the list what, fit that description?
That sounds bullshit and made up geript.
It's pretty typical mafia play VE. I don't get why you disagree with that. I also don't see why you're making a fuss about your name being on a list of 1 between tehse 5 or so. Wateva bra.
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I have no clue wtf they're doing.
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I don't know if I buy SL's claim. Feels like super bad time to claim and I can't imagine anybody claiming there. Well maybe VE, but he's a claim whore.
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On January 04 2015 12:05 geript wrote:
I don't know if I buy SL's claim. Feels like super bad time to claim and I can't imagine anybody claiming there. Well maybe VE, but he's a claim whore.
To clarify, if he's actually claiming.
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On January 04 2015 12:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What is your goal for day 2 geript? You wanna lynch marv? You wanna lynch vivax? I would shoot you this instant if i had a choice.
My goal is to lynch scum. What's yours?
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On January 04 2015 12:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript has had basically two reads this entire game and done nothing about either. Didnt push marv to save himself, claims vivax seems like a good case but admits he never did his own reading on it. Geript is scum. If anyone had a townread on him tell me why right now
yawn. Troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, troll, tunnel, bully, troll, tunnel...
Let's be honestly here people. Has DrH done anything that's actually useful or towny other than have a 27 billion page filter?
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On January 04 2015 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 12:13 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 12:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What is your goal for day 2 geript? You wanna lynch marv? You wanna lynch vivax? I would shoot you this instant if i had a choice. My goal is to lynch scum. What's yours? Tell me who is scum then. You're avoiding doing anything about your vivax read if i can even call it that. What about marv? Too scared to push it?
You're avoiding thinking about the game critically whatsoever.
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On January 04 2015 12:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How long until you decide to vote or actually pressure a read? You can't wait forever for a mislynch, might as well bus vivax right now. You might convince an idiot that it would somehow make you look better
Oh, so I should bus Vivax hmmm. Funny how you're able to know that Vivax is mafia and I don't. That makes one of us scum. Now who wouldn't know if someone is scum or not.
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On January 04 2015 12:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 12:15 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 12:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript has had basically two reads this entire game and done nothing about either. Didnt push marv to save himself, claims vivax seems like a good case but admits he never did his own reading on it. Geript is scum. If anyone had a townread on him tell me why right now yawn. Troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, troll, tunnel, bully, troll, tunnel... Let's be honestly here people. Has DrH done anything that's actually useful or towny other than have a 27 billion page filter? Why are you dodging the questions. You would give me the benefit of the doubt if you were serious. You think I'm scum? You dont have the balls to pressure anybody do you
Why do you ask dumb questions that go no where and look worse than a noob? I'd bet that all of your tunnels and reads are wrong; the irony is that I'd still only give you a 50/50 chance on being scum based on that fact alone.
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On January 04 2015 12:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 12:21 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 12:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How long until you decide to vote or actually pressure a read? You can't wait forever for a mislynch, might as well bus vivax right now. You might convince an idiot that it would somehow make you look better Oh, so I should bus Vivax hmmm. Funny how you're able to know that Vivax is mafia and I don't. That makes one of us scum. Now who wouldn't know if someone is scum or not. If you were town you wouldn't be surprised by my brashness in the least. You know how I can be, stop dodging the questions. What do you really think of marv and vivax? Who would you lynch right now?
As for Vivax, the points against him are pretty good. I've said so multiple times. Perhaps you could have read that in my filter which you should have read at some point if you actually thought I was sooper skum. Otherwise, I haven't read him fully because I'm having way more fun doing other shit and I'm busy listening to the foozball game. Marv I think is town. Perhaps if you had read the thread you'd actually know this. But surprise surprise, you're not actually reading or thinking about anything and yet want to make me look super scummy for not doing so.
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On January 04 2015 12:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 12:22 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 12:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2015 12:15 geript wrote:On January 04 2015 12:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript has had basically two reads this entire game and done nothing about either. Didnt push marv to save himself, claims vivax seems like a good case but admits he never did his own reading on it. Geript is scum. If anyone had a townread on him tell me why right now yawn. Troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, troll, tunnel, bully, troll, tunnel... Let's be honestly here people. Has DrH done anything that's actually useful or towny other than have a 27 billion page filter? Why are you dodging the questions. You would give me the benefit of the doubt if you were serious. You think I'm scum? You dont have the balls to pressure anybody do you Why do you ask dumb questions that go no where and look worse than a noob? I'd bet that all of your tunnels and reads are wrong; the irony is that I'd still only give you a 50/50 chance on being scum based on that fact alone. Why havent you paid more attention to marv and vivax. Whats going on this game that is more important than pushing the lynches you think are good? How is that a dumb noob question? Do you really think you can tilt me
It's not hard to tilt a 1 leg stool.
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On January 04 2015 12:22 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 12:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2015 12:17 KelsierSC wrote:On January 04 2015 12:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How long until you decide to vote or actually pressure a read? You can't wait forever for a mislynch, might as well bus vivax right now. You might convince an idiot that it would somehow make you look better you are so mean to people I didn't call geript an idiot per se, I am pretty sure he is scum though. I'm not the only diva in this game, let's talk about something that gets us somewhere like why geript refuses to push or out effort into his reads. He said vivax seems good because idk he skimmed what others were saying about him and assumes its good without reading his filter? Says marv is 100% scum and backs down instantly. All ive seen besides that is speculating about flips, night actions and dodging the questions that matter. I can be nicer if thats what i need to do but at this point anytime i make an accusation im just a troll and a tunneler. Garbage Yeh he is scummy I agree. just let him give his reads. I want to know what he thinks about the SL claim.
He's not let going of it. SL's lacking mental ability if he's actually claiming. There's no counter claim (although I'd assume if there is a real cop he wouldn't actually counterclaim here. After the first 3-4 minutes of reading about it I was pretty happy because if he's town, then he'll die for his stupidity and save an easy mislynch later on. Plus, it'll actually help me clear up my read on Damdred if SL flips blue.
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