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On January 02 2015 09:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:43 Vivax wrote:On January 02 2015 09:41 Koshi wrote:
The reason why scum is not trowing more dirt on Chyz is because Dr.H. is one of them. That is so fucking possible. I don't really get posts like these cause they are just paranoid intermezzos. Like, if you want to make a point and have an opinion based on something in-game, then go and make it. But say "x is y cause it's possible" doesn't really help anyone figure something out, you only masturbate your inner crackhead. Nope. Dr.H. hasn't shown any form of interesting thought outside his Chyz tunnel. Which is 90% boring stuff and 10% plausible stuff. Yet Dr.H. has 12 pages of filter. I dare anybody in this game to give me 1 interesting thought DrH. gave that wasn't about Chyz. There is nothing.
It's only Day 1 baby.
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On January 02 2015 09:29 Palmar wrote:geript isn't even trying to defend himself. No matter his alignment now he should be lynched. If he is town this is rubbish play. Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 06:05 geript wrote:
Also, fwiw Artanis, I saw this lynch coming yesterday. Considering the situation, activity, etc. It's a really hard lynch to get out of and all I can do is do my best to steer who to next. This post is complete bullshit. The only reason he's in trouble is because he's not contributing to the game when he could have. There are 20 people in the game and no one is batting an eye because some players have less activity than normal. there is a reason that 19 people are not getting lynched and geript is. It's because what he has done this game amounts to basically nothing. In this kind of a situation, any town player will find the motivation to defend himself. He's hardly even attempting to do it. We need to kill him. And if he actually flips town, we need to call him bad postgame, because this kind of defense is basically unacceptable. All he had to do was to engage with a few people controlling the lynch, most importantly me, and change the read, but it's almost as if he doesn't think he can do it. There are only two options here. #1: geript thinks he's just terrible at town, has no ability to convince people, and is willing to sabotage town based on his incompetence. #2: geript is mafia and thinks he won't be able to imitate his town style in prolonged interrogation. I actually think geript has both confidence, and that he always plays to win. This defeatist attitude does not fit at all, so I'm hoping that option 2 is the one that is true and he simply has given up trying to fight the lynch.
Vivax is a very, very good candidate for being mafia. I have no problem with people going after him.
You're missing the situation. though.
##vote Vivax
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On January 02 2015 09:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:13 Koshi wrote:Explain to me why Vivax is so focused connecting people with geript. Yet never talks about geript his alignment and his own view on geript. On January 02 2015 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Hi. I still have to read a fair lot but I'm currently keen on what batsnacks wrote and agree with him on LM. The post looks extremely formulaic and I have no idea why he would talk so much about Chyz when he's going for geript anyway. The first paragraph just should looks like a soup of looking agreeable but not really. On January 02 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
The list doesn't make him look any better to me. If anything it makes me wonder why he feels defeated so quickly. Looking at his scumreads I don't really grasp how he can tell apart people like geript and Koshi from the rest of his null/scummy-pile, they only appear rarely in his filter. Seems interesting. Maybe I should pay more attention right now.
Make sure to point all arrows you have left towards Vivax. Any other lynch besides your own is bad.
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On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.
The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer.
This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED?
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On January 02 2015 09:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
Artanis you seem fairly confident on this geript stuff but halfway through his filter I refreshed and saw you urging Koshi to keep his vote on him, then went and looked at your filter and well... Other than some early Koshi-sheep-hand-holding on his geript case I don't really see why you think he's mafia. Can you sum it up for me? Post I just posted and this Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 06:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 06:05 geript wrote:
Also, fwiw Artanis, I saw this lynch coming yesterday. Considering the situation, activity, etc. It's a really hard lynch to get out of and all I can do is do my best to steer who to next. But you've been here plenty and none of what you've done helped steer the town into a good direction. I can't claim to have pushed strongly onto anyone either (mainly because of uncertainty) but it feels like all of your posts have just been weak observations that didn't go anywhere. Why have you been so complacent in the time that you did have? I see requests for clarifications and observations with a few exceptions, like when you asked me about sl/eden/kelsier, which you then didn't follow up on. Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 06:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And I do think people would've listened had you attempted to make an impact on the game. It just feels like you haven't tried to do so.
Ok but that doesn't instantly make me convinced he's scum. I see no real explanations of what his scum mentality is supposed to be. Your main argument here is that he's not trying hard enough but from my point of view I don't have a grasp of what super tryhard town geript is supposed to be so it doesn't quite sway me.
If I saw the arguments on TheChyz compared to what you are using here I would instantly pick Chyz cause of his incoherence in his view on DrH which displays more that he's making stuff up since he incorrectly describes what he's been doing himself. A good towntell I use is when someone remembers well the situation he was in at a certain point, and TheChyz displays that he has a flawed recall of the situation DrH brings up.
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On January 02 2015 09:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Of course i will be switching to geript if there is a chance someone other than him thechyz is lynched. Second option is better than nothing I'm ok with both lynches tbh. It kinda sucks to have two martyrs and only one noose.
Meh I'm not martyring. I'm just not really motivated to play right now and idk why. Like I've posted my best thoughts and the best strategic play for me is to get my points out there. Like I'm the obvious frame target so that means that any cop check on me is pretty questionable. So I have to hope that I'm a miller. Or that the cop doesn't come out. Just simpler to get lynched and solve the problem.
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On January 02 2015 09:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:45 Koshi wrote:On January 02 2015 09:43 Vivax wrote:On January 02 2015 09:41 Koshi wrote:
The reason why scum is not trowing more dirt on Chyz is because Dr.H. is one of them. That is so fucking possible. I don't really get posts like these cause they are just paranoid intermezzos. Like, if you want to make a point and have an opinion based on something in-game, then go and make it. But say "x is y cause it's possible" doesn't really help anyone figure something out, you only masturbate your inner crackhead. Nope. Dr.H. hasn't shown any form of interesting thought outside his Chyz tunnel. Which is 90% boring stuff and 10% plausible stuff. Yet Dr.H. has 12 pages of filter. I dare anybody in this game to give me 1 interesting thought DrH. gave that wasn't about Chyz. There is nothing. It's only Day 1 baby.
So what? What? Really what?
You can't produce 1 single interesting thought about anybody else than 1 person because it is Day 1?
It's funny you acknowledge you have done nothing this game about the 18 other people beside Chez and brush it off as "Day 1".
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On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.
The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED?
Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so.
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On January 02 2015 09:45 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 02 2015 09:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
So I actually read through Chyz filter in Cultured really fast so take everything with a grain of salt.. I do think DH is correct in that he acted in a very different way in this game than he did in Cultured. He didn't seem to spew massive OMGUS at everyone who thought he was scum. I do think that makes Chyz look worse.
However, there is still a mayor difference in that he didn't have DH up his ass constantly that game. Especially for a new player that can have a great influence in how you play.
geript is still the better lynch of them imo. Pretty sure he was getting tunneled in the game and he definitely was up for lynch and was mislynched. He wasnt emotional in the least, notice how when he martyrs fucking likem...two posts before that he's trying to buddy up to me and apologize or something. He backed.down soooo sheepishly and when it didnt work he did a 180 and tilted all the way I obviously only skimmed through his filter so I cannot say anything for certain but to me it didn't look like he was under the same sort of pressure that he is this game. His difference in meta is interesting and imo it makes him look worse. But I think it is somewhat possible that he just crumbled super hard under all pressure.
It's not the only reason I suspect him or anything, it's important in the grander context of his actions being scummy as hell anyway. The argument isn't that he's scum.because he's playing.differently. Its because it refutes the copout that he's just a newb who can't play town. Provides a nice contrast that makes some of the motives clearer because you can see the sort of things he looks.for as town and patterns to how he forms arguments.
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On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.
The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED?
If you want attention go back 15 hours
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On January 02 2015 09:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Does anyone have any reason why we shouldn't just lynch batsnacks?
Hes already cussed at multiple new players therefor he is town.
But to be serious hes too hard to read I think he could be a mislynch.
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Fuck I need sleep. Lynch Vivax.
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On January 02 2015 09:46 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 15:44 geript wrote:On December 31 2014 15:35 Eden1892 wrote:On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On December 31 2014 15:22 Eden1892 wrote:On December 31 2014 15:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Uh, I don't want to make your dick hard. I don't think anything about anyone yet. On December 31 2014 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
That being said I'd like to show everyone my spreadsheet ranking Day 1 joke posts from least to most scummy. what's up with the second post here though? seems like if you have opinions about which posts are suspicious you have opinions about which people are suspicious. non? Seems like you take everything literally, we're gonna have problems if you waste your time with shit like this. just checking, it seemed like a joke but i didn't want to supply that answer in case it weren't~ On December 31 2014 15:32 geript wrote:On December 31 2014 15:27 geript wrote:
I'm more concerned about how you find a post that is "stiff and awkwardly timed," two traits that are more often considered mafia tells, towny? Can you explain that more fully? It's also pretty weird that you reasonably correctly point out that his post is going nowhere while simultaneously responding to it. @Eden Explain. sure, i'm not sure what you meant by "shut down this line" in the previous part of the post btw so if you want a reply to that please clarify for my addled brain as for why i read it townie, like i said, it seemed like an effort to get discussion somewhere besides early-game banter, which imo wasn't going anywhere. i followed up on the post because even if the object-level discussion ends up being pretty pointless, i can get some possibly useful meta-level reads from it - and hey, maybe it is going somewhere and i miss it, y'know? By shut it down, I mean shut down any further discussion on useless policy. Nobody needs to find policy to find discussion. The problem with your "townread" is that your reasons for finding him town are complete bullshit. That post is a throwaway post that I could recite to newbies to "get discussion going" as either alignment and potentially useful dependent on how it's driven and moved (even moreso to scum imo not that it matters). There actually were things to be talked about in the thread already (my townread on Damdred, the ??? on sicklucker who IIRC also made a passing townread on Damdred, Robik not posting anything while making a few posts, etc.). It's odd that you comment that his post was stiff and awkwardly timed, two bad reasons that people's posts are often called scummy for and then settle on a bad reason to call him town for it. As for meta reads, what type of meta reads do you expect will lead to any sort of meaningful read off of policy discussion? Like, THIS post is very townie. It correctly reads Eden and his reasoning seems very fluid. It also keeps discussion going on, and he keeps the push on Eden. I find this very townie.
I agree that it's a good point, but I think it's also very straightforward. It's more like Geript was the first one at the crime scene, but more people picked up on it. It wasn't a grand insight.
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Drh
Here is how I read it.
1) chyz is annoyed with you and votes you
2) before going to bed he started to.consider you are scum and made his, dr hnis scum.post
3) he comes back.next day and explains the initial.votr on you wasn't serious but his post after that were he suspects you was more serious
I dont see anything scummy about that tbh
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On January 02 2015 09:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 02 2015 09:45 Koshi wrote:On January 02 2015 09:43 Vivax wrote:On January 02 2015 09:41 Koshi wrote:
The reason why scum is not trowing more dirt on Chyz is because Dr.H. is one of them. That is so fucking possible. I don't really get posts like these cause they are just paranoid intermezzos. Like, if you want to make a point and have an opinion based on something in-game, then go and make it. But say "x is y cause it's possible" doesn't really help anyone figure something out, you only masturbate your inner crackhead. Nope. Dr.H. hasn't shown any form of interesting thought outside his Chyz tunnel. Which is 90% boring stuff and 10% plausible stuff. Yet Dr.H. has 12 pages of filter. I dare anybody in this game to give me 1 interesting thought DrH. gave that wasn't about Chyz. There is nothing. It's only Day 1 baby. So what? What? Really what? You can't produce 1 single interesting thought about anybody else than 1 person because it is Day 1? It's funny you acknowledge you have done nothing this game about the 18 other people beside Chez and brush it off as "Day 1".
Want a big list of reads or something? Why bother posting half assed gutreads. I already made it known how i feel about geript.
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On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote:On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.
The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so.
Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here.
This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot.
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On January 02 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Does anyone have any reason why we shouldn't just lynch batsnacks? Hes already cussed at multiple new players therefor he is town. But to be serious hes too hard to read I think he could be a mislynch.
Since when is batsnacks hard to read? Are you kidding me?
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Artanis why are you assuming that because this doesn't look like my town play it doesn't make me town? It's not like this looks like my scumplay either?
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On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote:On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.
The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so. Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here. This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot.
That's a really great point
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On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote:On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter.
The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so. Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here. This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot.
is that because that's what you would do as scum? ...
when do you think the last time i got lynched as town was?
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