EPTOr we have scurrying to hit vivax paranoia to get him back on marv.
I really hate laz vote the more I look at it
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Damdred
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Or we have scurrying to hit vivax paranoia to get him back on marv. I really hate laz vote the more I look at it | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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But if it's Kelsier that doesn't explain Marv/LM bussing each other. I feel like we're really wrong and it's unnerving. | ||
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Damdred
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Or marv is mafia and they'd rather win Tommorow I guess IDK. I just don't feel right like I'm missing something. Did vivax threaten lm to get on marv besides the light push. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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GlowingBear
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What did I miss? | ||
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marvellosity
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Artanis[Xp]
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LM/Marv/GB LM/Kels/GB Damdred/Marv/Kels LM/Damdred/Marv LM/Damdred/Kels If one of Vivax and SL is scum they can have the win because I really don't believe they can. First opton: LM/Marv/GB. Marv's push on GB was reasonable, but is actually a decent distancing tactic if they're both scum together. Definitely possible, but that combination still doesn't explain LM and Marv bussing the shit out of each other. Marv's also had LM and GB in his top scumreads for most of the game and has no other strong scumreads, just a slight suspicion on me. It's unlikely he'd bus this much. Second option: LM/Kels/GB. Kelsier has two strong suspects: LM and Vivax, with a side dish of GB. He's been going after Vivax' credibility hard but votes LM. As scum, he can't reasonably vote off Vivax, but a LM lynch wouldn't gain him much credit either given LM's status at the time. One thing that is worthy of note here is that LM has barely mentioned Kels in his filter, and ended up townreading GB despite these two still pushing him. In this sense, this option makes more sense than the LM/Marv/GB option because there's one side that provides the opposition to the lynch to create a counterwagon (Kels), one side to take all the credit and win at endgame (GB) and LM as the sacrificed pawn for Plan B. It still feels like a bit of a stretch. I'd imagine GB would push for Kelsier's lynch harder, and the way he replied to us potentially switching from Marv to Kelsier seemed more of shock and dismay than of willingness, though he did switch moments later with a vague reason. Third option: Damdred/Marv/Kelsier. In this case there's been almost nothing but buddying except from Damdred's side. Marv and Kelsier have consistently called Damdred anywhere from null to town, whereas Damdred scumreads both. In this option Damdred would be the lategame player, and LM simply misguided in his townread of Damdred. Both players would be setting up Damdred for the lategame. I'd imagine however that Damdred would've set himself up to vote LM earlier in hopes of getting to 4 before a Marv lynch and just win today rather than dragging it out. He's also accepted Kelsier as scum pretty quickly where with SL against it he could've easily sided against it. He had a townread on Kelsier earlier. Fourth option: LM/Damdred/Kels or Marv. Same problems as LM/Marv and LM/Kels had earlier with the added bonus of Damdred/LM having had very complicated interactions that make it very unlikely. Though the LM/Damdred/Kelsier team does have the idea of LM/Damdred never being on a team together implanted by Kelsier. I'm going to need to see if there's actually some truth to that, because if that's the play mafia made then that's pretty smart. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Bah, every option sucks. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Could he have had such an amazing scumgame? Is it possible? | ||
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marvellosity
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Well let's be honest, i don't come back to the thread as mafia anyway, but i'll let that slide. like I literally come back and push a lynch that only one other player is interested in (Kelsier) which is totally useless in all cases except where i'm town. i don't know why people are coming up with all these ridiculous scenarios of teams and what have you and not going with specific reasoning and passages of play. Namely GB's push on Palmar, Lazer being saved by a whisker, Lazer pathetically pushing GB only to end up on me when it mattered yesterday while avoiding all the important interactions, blablabla. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Damdred
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Is lazer still Scum reading GB do you know? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On January 17 2015 09:34 Damdred wrote: Ty for the synopsis art. Is lazer still Scum reading GB do you know? On January 16 2015 22:20 Lazermonkey wrote: Okay, GB is looking far better now I think. He was very posty and put up two pretty comprehensive meta reads, which I don't really expect scum to do. But this puzzles me, because it means someone I had previously as town is scum. If I had to guess it would be SL, but I really need reread alot before I can draw any clear conclusions. I really think Kel is scum now also. | ||
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marvellosity
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Artanis[Xp]
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Artanis[Xp]
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On January 17 2015 09:37 marvellosity wrote: is there anything I need to read in the last few pages other than paranoia and wifom team scenarios, or can I actually get people here to think about what happened last cycle? Paranoia and wifom team scenarios has been the general trend. Breaking it down would be your best bet. | ||
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Damdred
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Later days he townreads gb? I dint get it | ||
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marvellosity
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On January 17 2015 03:21 Vivax wrote: But I find the last votecount interesting cause it supports the LM + Kels + Marv scumteam. Lazer left his vote on marv before peacing out, which would give him further cred after Lazer flipped. Plus I don't recall Kelsier being around at EoD like the usual times to try and push us onto Lazer. But it's from my memory so can't guarantee I'm right. so what the fuck am I doing today? and yesterday for that matter? I'm in massive trouble, so I come in saying "let's not kill my buddy (KSC), let's kill my other buddy (LM), because then I'll be in so much better a spot tomorrow and things will definitely be ok" also yesterday, marvmafia is going "let's not lynch townpalmar who is hardpushnig me as mafia, let's lynch my buddy" why do people with brains not see this makes no sense. Like people *even noted* I left the door open to read Palmar however I wanted because I was non-committal, but at the end of the day I bloody made my mind up that we shouldn't lynch him ARHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH | ||
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