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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 15 2015 02:12 GMT
#8781
On January 15 2015 11:09 sicklucker wrote:
So like I told myself tonight if artanis didnt die hes no longer confirmed town.

So like I pretty much confirmed gb as mafia (unless you believe slam made two highway 89's or whatever) and artanis shrugged it off and made everyone ignore it.

Could you be owning the shit out of us right now in a vivax gb team? Is this possible?

This actually makes me think scum chose a great target if they're the team I put them on. Marv is smart enough to think out consequences like this. Feel free to scrutinize my filter though.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 15 2015 02:12 GMT
#8782
Either way artanis is in the marv catagory. The only way we kill them is as the last mafia so its pretty pointless to talk about it right now. If mafia wants to keep not killing him and kill other questionable people thats fine with me.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 15 2015 02:12 GMT
#8783
I dont know if I see a Viv and artanis team.

They came up with the lm,me,Marv team at exactly the same time and I don't know if scum does that.
Plus it would mean LM is town and it is mafia going for the win and i don't see that either
Zerg for Life
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 15 2015 02:14 GMT
#8784
If I died this night, no one would bat an eye and people would follow my list. Being still alive as pretty much the sole townread already creates doubt on both my alignment and my ideas.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 15 2015 02:16 GMT
#8785
So like mafia killed chez over me. They know chez is a vote for lm but there not so sure about me. So I think the nk is a good reason to kill lm
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 15 2015 02:17 GMT
#8786
Ok I just went through a fuckton of pages to confirm what Kelsier said here, surprise surprise, he's scum:

On January 15 2015 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not avoiding I'm reading you and then typing my response.

It wasn't magic I gave clear reasons for my change.
I read geript as scum so I looked at people who late switched to bats. SL seemed scummy.
Then geript flips town. So why does mafia late hammer a town when the vote is two towns. I listen to jat and robin and thy make good points why sl Is town. Hence my read changes.

See, reasons not magic


So I go back to the last post where Kelsier says SL is scum, and read onward to the point where I attack SL after night ended and complained that Kelsier wasn't supporting me in lynching SL.

This is what I found from Robik and JAT that could have changed Kelsier's mind. Unless he can find something else he's a liar and mafia.


Nr. 1: The last post from Kels where he scumreads SL:

On January 06 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
yeh LM is my top scum read right now

I would also lynch Super and Rit

As for Viv, well his D2 play and the strange start to the day really threw me. I think with geript flipping town though he has to be up for major consideration.

a lot of what I read depends on SL, I think he is scum though. I don't know what the fuck his cop bullshit is but he has dodged my questions on it , it is full of inconsistencies. His play overall has been an attempt to clear himself as often as possible, along with other players, by applying bad logic and WIFOM. He has constantly acted like he has played well and led town or been massively influential, this overstating is really tiring and I don't think he believes it.. I don't believe the claim at all.
but in the world where he is an awful cop I can see a scum team of where they have just sort of coasted by and let town go round in circles.


Marv
Palmar
LM
Super
...+ viv or rit maybe, unsure of this.


my town would be
Robik, JAT, artanis, DrH
I like VE aswell but I just don't have the data on him and it is really a "tone" read more than anything.
GB has now got internet access again and I look forward to getting his perspective on the game for realz.

if you have been forgotten, please dont be rustled


The arguments why SL is town:

On January 06 2015 03:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:39 sicklucker wrote:
I have decided that robik cant be mafia since gerit was town from vote analyst hes also looked good today.

This read is still utter horseshit.


On January 06 2015 14:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, list time in case I get shot.

Town:

Sicklucker: I just don't see him doing the whole cop claim shenannigans as scum. I somewhat doubt that he is the real cop though because then his play would be really really dumb. If that is the case and he doesn't get shot he needs to clear that up immediately day3.



On January 06 2015 03:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:42 sicklucker wrote:
We put marv and palmer in a cage and they fought about stuff we dont care about and we chose marv.

This alone should help us TR sicklucker.


At this time I'm scumreading SL, this is what Kelsier writes:

On January 06 2015 17:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Sl are you claiming cop again?

THERE IS NOTHING, NOTHING THAT COULD COVNINCE KELSIER THAT SL IS TOWN HERE. BUT HE JUST SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE. INSTEAD WHEN I SCUMREAD KELSIER FOR REASONS, KELSIER JUST SITS THERE AND ASKS HIM IF HE'S THE COP
What is your check?

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 15 2015 02:17 GMT
#8787
The problem for scum was that Vivax and I share the exact same idea. Killing either of us will just make sure that the other follows up on it. Shooting Chez was the only way to put people on another track. Pretty brilliant idea really.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 15 2015 02:18 GMT
#8788
EBWOP on last quote:

On January 06 2015 17:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Sl are you claiming cop again?

What is your check?


What I said:
THERE IS NOTHING, NOTHING THAT COULD COVNINCE KELSIER THAT SL IS TOWN HERE. BUT HE JUST SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE. INSTEAD WHEN I SCUMREAD SL FOR REASONS, KELSIER JUST SITS THERE AND ASKS HIM IF HE'S THE COP.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 15 2015 02:19 GMT
#8789
On January 15 2015 11:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
The problem for scum was that Vivax and I share the exact same idea. Killing either of us will just make sure that the other follows up on it. Shooting Chez was the only way to put people on another track. Pretty brilliant idea really.


Yep, I forced them to do that with the post where I say that I wouldn't kill you cause you're a bro
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 15 2015 02:20 GMT
#8790
I SAY FORWARD
##Vote Lazermonkey
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 15 2015 02:21 GMT
#8791
Ill admit the ksc flopping his read on me was strange. He flopped from completely disagreeing with me to copying my reads kind of what a mafia would do if im wrong. But at the same time we could both be right so its hard
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 15 2015 02:22 GMT
#8792
Like, to understand what I mean, you have to read what Kelsier just said for why he stopped scumreading SL suddenly.

Then you go back to the time geript flipped and read what Kelsier writes at night.

Then you read through the night and look for reasons from Robik and JAT for why SL is town. Hint: I quoted all I found.

Then comes day, Kelsier wasn't convinced by the reasons cause they were given but he still asks SL if he's the cop (why?) and ignores my push on him.

Easy lynch today boys
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 15 2015 02:22 GMT
#8793
On January 15 2015 11:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 11:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
The problem for scum was that Vivax and I share the exact same idea. Killing either of us will just make sure that the other follows up on it. Shooting Chez was the only way to put people on another track. Pretty brilliant idea really.


Yep, I forced them to do that with the post where I say that I wouldn't kill you cause you're a bro

Oh shit that comment was gold looking back at it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 15 2015 02:23 GMT
#8794
I'm lynching Kelsier before LM.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 15 2015 02:23 GMT
#8795
vivax if you read through sl he said he was going to reclaim cop the next day soni wanted to see what he said.

You will see that my reasoning is consistent. Inwas unsure of SL after geript flipped town I listened to Jay and tobik and I ended up town reading him.
Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 15 2015 02:23 GMT
#8796
Well lets just ask him. Ksc why did you start town reading me
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 15 2015 02:23 GMT
#8797
On January 15 2015 11:23 Vivax wrote:
I'm lynching Kelsier before LM.

I'm okay with this too. I chose the lynch last time, I'll sheep you this time.
##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 15 2015 02:26 GMT
#8798
Ah cool, Viv not voting on LM makes me even more sure they are mafia together
Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 15 2015 02:27 GMT
#8799
On January 15 2015 11:17 Vivax wrote:

The arguments why SL is town:

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:39 sicklucker wrote:
I have decided that robik cant be mafia since gerit was town from vote analyst hes also looked good today.

This read is still utter horseshit.


Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 14:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, list time in case I get shot.

Town:

Sicklucker: I just don't see him doing the whole cop claim shenannigans as scum. I somewhat doubt that he is the real cop though because then his play would be really really dumb. If that is the case and he doesn't get shot he needs to clear that up immediately day3.



Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 03:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 06 2015 03:42 sicklucker wrote:
We put marv and palmer in a cage and they fought about stuff we dont care about and we chose marv.

This alone should help us TR sicklucker.




You listen to JAT and Robik about this?
After all the arguments you presented for SL being scum?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 15 2015 02:28 GMT
#8800
I kind of don't want to let LM get away today though. It feels icky.
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