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Alright, let's talk business. I've read up to page 30 so anything that happens after that I have no idea about.
Artanis is best town. I feel fairly confident in this read. I don't think anyone is calling him mafia so I don't think I need to cite any examples really.
KelsierSC is probably town too. I particularly thought his sarcastic post towards.... idontremember, the one marv quoted, was okay. Less confident but still, no reason to even consider lynching today. Also, he articulated some of the problems I had with geript's posting until that point.
DrH is very likely town. I highly agree with Robik that he seems to genuinely believe he's onto something with this chyz read. He's constantly pushing it, almost forcing it down people's throat. If chyz is town (which I very well think might tbe the case) DrH is not the mafia on his wagon.
Robik I'm not entirely sure about, but the simple fact that he pointed out things I was already thinking about DrH makes him more likely to be town than mafia. I don't think we need to lynch him today.
Batsnacks is sort of meh whatever, but at least he is quite unapologetic about his lazy posting. Maybe a very, very slight lean town read.
TheChyz is the hardest read in this game. Everything he says sounds like he's mafia, which probably makes him town. He posts a bit like nb or something. Lacks confidence and his reads are all very meh. I think the main reason I don't want to lynch him is the thing Artanis pointed out where he started his defense by talking about the only player defending him. Like this guy could very well be mafia but starsenses are telling me I should not lynch him today. If he's mafia, I'm simply gonna look for the other mafia instead.
@Chyz: if you're town, step up bro.
Koshi is another hard read. So I actually don't think Chyz needs to be lynched, and if I had to answer now I'd guess Chyz is town. However, Koshi had an unnaturally strong read on Chyz as town. Like I felt like he should have had no business thinking Chyz is town at that point. But then Koshi kept talking to Artanis (I think it was artanis...) and I started feeling less bad about him as he posted more. I'd say I lean slightly town on him, but I don't feel very confident on it.
Lazermonkey: I initially thought he was okay, but I see now multiple people want to call him mafia in the last pages before 30. He's probably the guy I need to re-read out of the people I have opinions on. He pushed Chyz which I feel is ok, after all, everything Chyz says sounds like mafia talking. But maybe he's just sort of piling on. He's null and maybe even leaning mafia. I don't know.
Damdred is up and down. I actually agreed with the people that said mafia damdred wouldn't open with a joke mafia claim. But he's also been fairly shit in the thread, and the fact he suspected DrH over Ritoky there in that post was kind of odd. He's probably a slightly leaning mafia guy.
Eden1892 started off weird (with the stuff with DrH), but he kept posting and kept raising his status. I think he's more likely to be town than mafia. I can't exactly remember when the flip happened (I initially thought he was kinda mafia) but I'm okay with him for now.
Ritoky is a complete mystery to me. He tried to bury DrH with completely asinine reasoning. Like he's gotta be a complete moron to think DrH's policies would apply to a joke somewhere in the game. However, this is so dumb I'm not even sure it has to come from mafia, it might just be ritoky jumping some random shit he saw. I have no idea what his alignment is.
Marv, because of the two reads above I don't actually feel all that good about marv. I do expect to mislynch him some game in the close future, because I am almost 100% certain marv wants to play a town game where he posts little, just so he can do so in the future and so playing mafia isn't as painful to him. However I now disagree with the things I said about Eden, or well, I think his subsequent posts made him look better, so marv agreeing with me was kinda off, and I also don't think we can read too much into the ritoky thing. Also, if marv actually had found something, I'd think he wanted to push it. Re-reading lazermonkey and seeing if marv saying he could lynch him is justifiable will help with reading marv. For now he's sort of maybe slightly kinda leaning scum.
JAT. Parroting other players. Does it as both alignments, no idea what he is. Don't particularly care for now.
Geript. We lynch this man today. He is the one in the aftermath of DrH's case on Chyz that came off as mafia. First of all he seemed to immediately make a "mental note" that Chyz was newb town. There was, at the time, nothing in the thread that suggested Chyz was town. There were reasons to wait and see, but to say he's town is way over the top. Also, in the following discussion, I feel like unlike Koshi, geript did basically nothing to actually advance his read or influence anyone to follow him. It's the difference of passively "being right" (in case chyz is town) and aggressively defending him (like koshi did). Add in what I said earlier about how his posting was fairly clean and he was appealing to veterans and I actually want to lynch him.
sicklucker. I had a thought on him but I don't remember. Probably mafia because his posts are so boring I don't even remember them. But I'll reread later and decide. Could very well be town with little time.
Superbia, GB, Vivax and RoL haven't basically posted at all, so here is a wisdom nugget. Out of the lurker list (those 4), you should shoot RoL. Just trust me on this one. If we have a vigilante, shoot the fuck out of RoL.
##Vote Geript
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Kelsier I'm fine with batsnacks. His observation on chyz possibly trying to milk the Koshi read for town cred more felt like a viable option to me. I think there's better candidates than bats today.
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If even a single person doubts I'm town after that knowledge bomb, that person needs a replacement brain. I didn't realize how long this was.
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On January 02 2015 00:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Shit man I'm all by myself with no one to talk to. Plus I cant quote or make a proper case on my phone.
What do you think about Koshi this far?
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Palmar confirmed town hero.
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You haven't got to me doing some stuffs yet palmar tell me what you think of my case later besides its boring if it is. Besides that I think you are town for the knowledge bomb.
Kel you might have to convince me more that bats is scum, I can remember his posts so I don't think I would want to lynch him today.
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On January 02 2015 00:46 Damdred wrote:
You haven't got to me doing some stuffs yet palmar tell me what you think of my case later besides its boring if it is. Besides that I think you are town for the knowledge bomb.
Kel you might have to convince me more that bats is scum, I can remember his posts so I don't think I would want to lynch him today.
sure I'll continue reading.
I don't care about kel or batsnacks. You should be voting geript.
Everyone should be voting geript. It's a good vote. At least make him mad, but preferably make him dead.
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Let me know what you think of Lazer when you reread him Palmar. As far as I'm concerned, today's lynch is between Robik, Robik, Robik, Lazermonkey, TheChyz and Geript unless someone decides to claim scum.
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On January 02 2015 00:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Let me know what you think of Lazer when you reread him Palmar. As far as I'm concerned, today's lynch is between Robik, Robik, Robik, Lazermonkey, TheChyz and Geript unless someone decides to claim scum.
a) I'm not rereading Lazer until I finish the thread (probably not this cycle).
b) Robik and Chyz should probably be off the table based on the stuff I said about them in my big list.
This leaves geript as your vote by process of elimination! Sweet!
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On January 02 2015 00:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 00:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Let me know what you think of Lazer when you reread him Palmar. As far as I'm concerned, today's lynch is between Robik, Robik, Robik, Lazermonkey, TheChyz and Geript unless someone decides to claim scum. a) I'm not rereading Lazer until I finish the thread (probably not this cycle). b) Robik and Chyz should probably be off the table based on the stuff I said about them in my big list. This leaves geript as your vote by process of elimination! Sweet!
I really want to lynch Robik though.
Also, I'm still waiting for Dr.H's tl;dr post for why Chyz is scum. I wonder if he can do it.
And you should really reread Lazer because there's a good chance he's going to end up on the table this cycle and you might have to choose between two non-Geript entities.
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On January 02 2015 01:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 00:59 Palmar wrote:On January 02 2015 00:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Let me know what you think of Lazer when you reread him Palmar. As far as I'm concerned, today's lynch is between Robik, Robik, Robik, Lazermonkey, TheChyz and Geript unless someone decides to claim scum. a) I'm not rereading Lazer until I finish the thread (probably not this cycle). b) Robik and Chyz should probably be off the table based on the stuff I said about them in my big list. This leaves geript as your vote by process of elimination! Sweet! I really want to lynch Robik though. Also, I'm still waiting for Dr.H's tl;dr post for why Chyz is scum. I wonder if he can do it. And you should really reread Lazer because there's a good chance he's going to end up on the table this cycle and you might have to choose between two non-Geript entities.
I won't have to if you just support my case. By our powers combined I'm sure we can get geript lynched. A few other people also said they'd support a geript lynch. Time to put your money where your mouth is!
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I'm posting my thoughts as I go.
I said yesterday that I dislike Koshi. After looking at his filter, I still think he looks bad. He didn't post much since yesterday evening so most of this is simply rehashing.
1. (Palmar was already touching on this but I think its a strong point which is worth repeating)
Koshi was very very eager to defend Chyz in the early game. I'm not making any preflip associations here, but just by looking at his filter you can see how much time he spends on defending Chyz. This makes it looks like he is making alot of contributions (which in a sense he is) but he is in no way doing alot of scum hunting. Why is it that Koshi felt the ned to defend Chyz so hard in the first half of D1?
2. Not pushing geript despite voting him.
3. Afraid to actually call people scum. Instead saying things like "Your excuses come over scummy". Why not say YOU look scummy? Trying to set up a vote if possible, yet not pushing the lynch or having me against him as much as he could have.
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On January 02 2015 01:06 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 01:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 00:59 Palmar wrote:On January 02 2015 00:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Let me know what you think of Lazer when you reread him Palmar. As far as I'm concerned, today's lynch is between Robik, Robik, Robik, Lazermonkey, TheChyz and Geript unless someone decides to claim scum. a) I'm not rereading Lazer until I finish the thread (probably not this cycle). b) Robik and Chyz should probably be off the table based on the stuff I said about them in my big list. This leaves geript as your vote by process of elimination! Sweet! I really want to lynch Robik though. Also, I'm still waiting for Dr.H's tl;dr post for why Chyz is scum. I wonder if he can do it. And you should really reread Lazer because there's a good chance he's going to end up on the table this cycle and you might have to choose between two non-Geript entities. I won't have to if you just support my case. By our powers combined I'm sure we can get geript lynched. A few other people also said they'd support a geript lynch. Time to put your money where your mouth is!
But if we get Geript lynched we can't lynch Robik 
I enjoy having Geript in the game so it's much harder to motivate myself to lynch him. If he starts posting gifs I don't think I could.
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I don't want to lynch Koshi because his attack on Geript when questioned was instantaneous, to the point yet elaborate.
On December 31 2014 23:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Maybe you're right. I just always have a strong averse reaction to people saying "go do something useful" whilst not doing something useful. It rustles my jimmies, so to say.
What specifically bothers you by Geript enough to vote for him?
On December 31 2014 23:17 Koshi wrote:
Two things Dr.H. said. First thing was about geripts buddying to Dr.H.
The second thing was that geript just came by this morning to say "Koshi you are pretty awesome" after I made that post on Eden.
And I guess I am missing some geripts starpower in this game. Kelsier his case was pretty good as well.
He hadn't really elaborated yet why he suspected Geript, but when questioned he instantly had a story without having to think about it.
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I'm super cool with killing geript actually.
He have a wierd early game, he point about him "waiting for vets" still stands. However, it also becomes more and more clear that geript is not really trying to scum hunt. He has alot of posts calling people town, alot of post defending people, even more posts defending himself. He has almost no post about who he wants to kill.
Town tries to scum hunt, scum tries to avoid getting killed. geript is very clearly not scum hunting and very clearly trying not to get killed.
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On January 02 2015 01:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I don't want to lynch Koshi because his attack on Geript when questioned was instantaneous, to the point yet elaborate. Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 23:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Maybe you're right. I just always have a strong averse reaction to people saying "go do something useful" whilst not doing something useful. It rustles my jimmies, so to say.
What specifically bothers you by Geript enough to vote for him? Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 23:17 Koshi wrote:
Two things Dr.H. said. First thing was about geripts buddying to Dr.H.
The second thing was that geript just came by this morning to say "Koshi you are pretty awesome" after I made that post on Eden.
And I guess I am missing some geripts starpower in this game. Kelsier his case was pretty good as well. He hadn't really elaborated yet why he suspected Geript, but when questioned he instantly had a story without having to think about it.
Fair enough point. I don't think this makes him auto town but I feel less inclined to vote him today.
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@Lazer, how do you get from disliking Koshi pretty hardcore and seemily on the verge of scum reading him and then with just two posts from artanis you say that you don't want to vote him as much today? Then right before you say you don't want to lynch geript?
Aren't you being guilty of what you charged koshi with not pushing your scum read, feels like you are afraid of calling koshi scum and sticking to it. and you feel way to agreeable
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On January 02 2015 01:32 Damdred wrote:
@Lazer, how do you get from disliking Koshi pretty hardcore and seemily on the verge of scum reading him and then with just two posts from artanis you say that you don't want to vote him as much today? Then right before you say you don't want to lynch geript?
Aren't you being guilty of what you charged koshi with not pushing your scum read, feels like you are afraid of calling koshi scum and sticking to it. and you feel way to agreeable
Because I think what Artanis posted was relevant maybe?
Not sure why you think I don't want to lynch geript? I just said I'm super cool with killing him!
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On January 02 2015 01:36 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 01:32 Damdred wrote:
@Lazer, how do you get from disliking Koshi pretty hardcore and seemily on the verge of scum reading him and then with just two posts from artanis you say that you don't want to vote him as much today? Then right before you say you don't want to lynch geript?
Aren't you being guilty of what you charged koshi with not pushing your scum read, feels like you are afraid of calling koshi scum and sticking to it. and you feel way to agreeable Because I think what Artanis posted was relevant maybe? Not sure why you think I don't want to lynch geript? I just said I'm super cool with killing him!
Explain why what art posted was able to change your mind so much?
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