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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 00:15 GMT
#6615
Now back to Terran icon cause zerg sucks and doesn't need mechanic skillz.
But still more than Protoss cheesy scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 01:07 GMT
#6624
On January 09 2015 09:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Why isn't marv raging at all the people who are calling him mafia? If I call him mafia the world ends and the thread turns to shit.



Dude I made that observation too. I called him mafia again cause when I called him mafia he didn't flame me and try to get me lynched. There's a literal post from me that says that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 01:11 GMT
#6626
On January 09 2015 10:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah and marvs meta is to go apeshit rage mode when called mafia as town.

It's weird but we don't need to deal with it now.

I'm lynching one of the cop claims today and that is that.


Mate that is exactly what I have been proposing, I suddenly want to hug you.
But one of the claimed cops says he wants to not lynch into the cop claims cause then he's supposed to get more checks off.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 01:14 GMT
#6629
Also Artanis differentiation between me and LM in terms of scumminess is very wishywashy, I'd figure he'd want to get a clearer picture instead of leaving it at that "both of you have done scummy shit etc.".

But when he considers LM he doesn't consider that LM still hopped on super after all the defense which is way more indiciative of him being scum than me. I at least thought a thing and then pulled it through and didn't correct it in th fear that being on the wrong wagon would make me look bad.

Why doesn't this reasoning appear in artanis argumentation.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 01:27 GMT
#6638
On January 09 2015 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:11 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah and marvs meta is to go apeshit rage mode when called mafia as town.

It's weird but we don't need to deal with it now.

I'm lynching one of the cop claims today and that is that.


Mate that is exactly what I have been proposing, I suddenly want to hug you.
But one of the claimed cops says he wants to not lynch into the cop claims cause then he's supposed to get more checks off.


I don't care about this. If he wanted to get more checks off he should not have claimed. Do you know which cop is saying that?



Robik obviously.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 01:44 GMT
#6641
On January 09 2015 10:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:14 Vivax wrote:
Also Artanis differentiation between me and LM in terms of scumminess is very wishywashy, I'd figure he'd want to get a clearer picture instead of leaving it at that "both of you have done scummy shit etc.".

But when he considers LM he doesn't consider that LM still hopped on super after all the defense which is way more indiciative of him being scum than me. I at least thought a thing and then pulled it through and didn't correct it in th fear that being on the wrong wagon would make me look bad.

Why doesn't this reasoning appear in artanis argumentation.

You're more experienced as scum and you know how bad it can look to switch back later on. The entire game you've been consistently wrong. It'd be weird for the character you're playing to suddenly swap. LM was already riding the "but I'll vote Superbia if I have to" thing for a while whereas you didn't leave yourself any room to do so.


Well I was sleeping through all the time where I could have switched to superbia and I simply didn't scumread him over ritoky for the stuff I found about ritoky regardin the D1 stuff. However when he claimed cop it simply made much more sense than Robik claiming cop.

Then I switched to SL cause of some stuff that looked scummy tho I can't remmember exactly why since I'm gintoniced right now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 01:46 GMT
#6642
On January 09 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:27 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:11 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah and marvs meta is to go apeshit rage mode when called mafia as town.

It's weird but we don't need to deal with it now.

I'm lynching one of the cop claims today and that is that.


Mate that is exactly what I have been proposing, I suddenly want to hug you.
But one of the claimed cops says he wants to not lynch into the cop claims cause then he's supposed to get more checks off.


I don't care about this. If he wanted to get more checks off he should not have claimed. Do you know which cop is saying that?



Robik obviously.


Well that is fucking retarded as fuck,

Let me get this straight.

Cop!Robik sees a cop claim, Cop!Robik counter claims in order to lynch the fake cop for sure.

Cop!Robik then says he doesn;t want to Lynch into the cop claims because he wants to get more checks off.

THEN WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT IN COUNTERCLAIMING THE INITIAL CLAIM???!?!? The whole point in counterclaiming is to lynch one of the claims.

That makes no sense to me at all.

Am I missing something?


Just saw this.

Cop!Robik sees SL claim, why doesn't he give two shits about it but when ritoky claims he goes apeshit insane?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#6645
On January 09 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:14 Vivax wrote:
Also Artanis differentiation between me and LM in terms of scumminess is very wishywashy, I'd figure he'd want to get a clearer picture instead of leaving it at that "both of you have done scummy shit etc.".

But when he considers LM he doesn't consider that LM still hopped on super after all the defense which is way more indiciative of him being scum than me. I at least thought a thing and then pulled it through and didn't correct it in th fear that being on the wrong wagon would make me look bad.

Why doesn't this reasoning appear in artanis argumentation.

You're more experienced as scum and you know how bad it can look to switch back later on. The entire game you've been consistently wrong. It'd be weird for the character you're playing to suddenly swap. LM was already riding the "but I'll vote Superbia if I have to" thing for a while whereas you didn't leave yourself any room to do so.


Well I was sleeping through all the time where I could have switched to superbia and I simply didn't scumread him over ritoky for the stuff I found about ritoky regardin the D1 stuff. However when he claimed cop it simply made much more sense than Robik claiming cop.

Then I switched to SL cause of some stuff that looked scummy tho I can't remmember exactly why since I'm gintoniced right now.


Oh and you're implying I wouldn't leave myself any room for switching to superbia cause I'm more experienced since it would look bad if I switched to superbia since I would think it would look bad if I did so.

Well, just no. Anyone who leads a lynch on scum looks like town hero unless he's the only possible scum left by PoE, and anyone who defends scum will be subject to scrutiny.

All this discussion however shows one thing: You inherently want to not lynch LM but want to lynch me since you leave the option open that LM is town for his attitude on superbia and don't display it when you say "then we lynch one of LM or Vivax". Now instead you argue in favour of LM who has been misrepresenting things on multiple occcasions (especially about me) before being pointed to the parts that showed that he read something incorrectly.

So basically I take from all of this that your attitude towawrds superbia and me isn't equal like you suggested, but instead you see me as more likely scum but didn't explicitly say so, which makes you suspicious.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#6646
On January 09 2015 10:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:27 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:11 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah and marvs meta is to go apeshit rage mode when called mafia as town.

It's weird but we don't need to deal with it now.

I'm lynching one of the cop claims today and that is that.


Mate that is exactly what I have been proposing, I suddenly want to hug you.
But one of the claimed cops says he wants to not lynch into the cop claims cause then he's supposed to get more checks off.


I don't care about this. If he wanted to get more checks off he should not have claimed. Do you know which cop is saying that?



Robik obviously.


Well that is fucking retarded as fuck,

Let me get this straight.

Cop!Robik sees a cop claim, Cop!Robik counter claims in order to lynch the fake cop for sure.

Cop!Robik then says he doesn;t want to Lynch into the cop claims because he wants to get more checks off.

THEN WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT IN COUNTERCLAIMING THE INITIAL CLAIM???!?!? The whole point in counterclaiming is to lynch one of the claims.

That makes no sense to me at all.

Am I missing something?

This is actually a good point.

I really hope I'm not in bizarro land where Vivax is actually right and Robik is somehow, someway scum.


HAHAHAHAHAHAH
But when I say that Robik is full of shit in what he's saying cause he prefers to get more (possibly unreliable) checks rather than lynching obvious scum you just keep your ears shut and add me to the possible scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:02 GMT
#6647
So basically I take from all of this that your attitude towawrds superbia and me


Towards Lazermonkey and me*

(Damn alcohol)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:05 GMT
#6649
On January 09 2015 11:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:14 Vivax wrote:
Also Artanis differentiation between me and LM in terms of scumminess is very wishywashy, I'd figure he'd want to get a clearer picture instead of leaving it at that "both of you have done scummy shit etc.".

But when he considers LM he doesn't consider that LM still hopped on super after all the defense which is way more indiciative of him being scum than me. I at least thought a thing and then pulled it through and didn't correct it in th fear that being on the wrong wagon would make me look bad.

Why doesn't this reasoning appear in artanis argumentation.

You're more experienced as scum and you know how bad it can look to switch back later on. The entire game you've been consistently wrong. It'd be weird for the character you're playing to suddenly swap. LM was already riding the "but I'll vote Superbia if I have to" thing for a while whereas you didn't leave yourself any room to do so.


Well I was sleeping through all the time where I could have switched to superbia and I simply didn't scumread him over ritoky for the stuff I found about ritoky regardin the D1 stuff. However when he claimed cop it simply made much more sense than Robik claiming cop.

Then I switched to SL cause of some stuff that looked scummy tho I can't remmember exactly why since I'm gintoniced right now.


Oh and you're implying I wouldn't leave myself any room for switching to superbia cause I'm more experienced since it would look bad if I switched to superbia since I would think it would look bad if I did so.

Well, just no. Anyone who leads a lynch on scum looks like town hero unless he's the only possible scum left by PoE, and anyone who defends scum will be subject to scrutiny.

Point in case: Leads. You were never going to lead a lynch on Superbia.

Show nested quote +
All this discussion however shows one thing: You inherently want to not lynch LM but want to lynch me since you leave the option open that LM is town for his attitude on superbia and don't display it when you say "then we lynch one of LM or Vivax". Now instead you argue in favour of LM who has been misrepresenting things on multiple occcasions (especially about me) before being pointed to the parts that showed that he read something incorrectly.

So basically I take from all of this that your attitude towawrds superbia and me isn't equal like you suggested, but instead you see me as more likely scum but didn't explicitly say so, which makes you suspicious.

If you say so.


So does this mean you agree with me? You say LM kept an option open to switch to super, and I didn't cause I figured it would look bad, which means you scumread me more than him but didn't say it openly?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:10 GMT
#6652
On January 09 2015 11:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 11:01 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:27 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:11 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah and marvs meta is to go apeshit rage mode when called mafia as town.

It's weird but we don't need to deal with it now.

I'm lynching one of the cop claims today and that is that.


Mate that is exactly what I have been proposing, I suddenly want to hug you.
But one of the claimed cops says he wants to not lynch into the cop claims cause then he's supposed to get more checks off.


I don't care about this. If he wanted to get more checks off he should not have claimed. Do you know which cop is saying that?



Robik obviously.


Well that is fucking retarded as fuck,

Let me get this straight.

Cop!Robik sees a cop claim, Cop!Robik counter claims in order to lynch the fake cop for sure.

Cop!Robik then says he doesn;t want to Lynch into the cop claims because he wants to get more checks off.

THEN WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT IN COUNTERCLAIMING THE INITIAL CLAIM???!?!? The whole point in counterclaiming is to lynch one of the claims.

That makes no sense to me at all.

Am I missing something?

This is actually a good point.

I really hope I'm not in bizarro land where Vivax is actually right and Robik is somehow, someway scum.


HAHAHAHAHAHAH
But when I say that Robik is full of shit in what he's saying cause he prefers to get more (possibly unreliable) checks rather than lynching obvious scum you just keep your ears shut and add me to the possible scum?

I stopped listening to you on Robik for quite some time because Robik was pretty much confirmed town in my eyes so your posts were boring. I still think he's very likely to be town.


Well if you think I'm scum you should listen to me cause there might be valuable hints in what I say.

The point is: I'm not fucking scum. I even talk so much you get bored so I have no idea how you can think I'm scum. I pointed out what's wrong with Robik since EoD2, no matter what his excuse is. If he was busy modding a game but still wasn't busy enough to keep posting in the thread and looking a the posts then something was odd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:15 GMT
#6654
On January 09 2015 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 11:05 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 11:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:44 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:14 Vivax wrote:
Also Artanis differentiation between me and LM in terms of scumminess is very wishywashy, I'd figure he'd want to get a clearer picture instead of leaving it at that "both of you have done scummy shit etc.".

But when he considers LM he doesn't consider that LM still hopped on super after all the defense which is way more indiciative of him being scum than me. I at least thought a thing and then pulled it through and didn't correct it in th fear that being on the wrong wagon would make me look bad.

Why doesn't this reasoning appear in artanis argumentation.

You're more experienced as scum and you know how bad it can look to switch back later on. The entire game you've been consistently wrong. It'd be weird for the character you're playing to suddenly swap. LM was already riding the "but I'll vote Superbia if I have to" thing for a while whereas you didn't leave yourself any room to do so.


Well I was sleeping through all the time where I could have switched to superbia and I simply didn't scumread him over ritoky for the stuff I found about ritoky regardin the D1 stuff. However when he claimed cop it simply made much more sense than Robik claiming cop.

Then I switched to SL cause of some stuff that looked scummy tho I can't remmember exactly why since I'm gintoniced right now.


Oh and you're implying I wouldn't leave myself any room for switching to superbia cause I'm more experienced since it would look bad if I switched to superbia since I would think it would look bad if I did so.

Well, just no. Anyone who leads a lynch on scum looks like town hero unless he's the only possible scum left by PoE, and anyone who defends scum will be subject to scrutiny.

Point in case: Leads. You were never going to lead a lynch on Superbia.

All this discussion however shows one thing: You inherently want to not lynch LM but want to lynch me since you leave the option open that LM is town for his attitude on superbia and don't display it when you say "then we lynch one of LM or Vivax". Now instead you argue in favour of LM who has been misrepresenting things on multiple occcasions (especially about me) before being pointed to the parts that showed that he read something incorrectly.

So basically I take from all of this that your attitude towawrds superbia and me isn't equal like you suggested, but instead you see me as more likely scum but didn't explicitly say so, which makes you suspicious.

If you say so.


So does this mean you agree with me? You say LM kept an option open to switch to super, and I didn't cause I figured it would look bad, which means you scumread me more than him but didn't say it openly?

No, I'm saying both actions easily fit within the scum narrative for both of you.


Then say openly you want to lynch both of us, what makes you think we're not both scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:16 GMT
#6655
On January 09 2015 11:12 DarthPunk wrote:
All we should be discussing right now is which claim to lynch.


My man
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:19 GMT
#6657
On January 09 2015 11:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 11:10 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 11:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 09 2015 11:01 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:27 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:11 Vivax wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah and marvs meta is to go apeshit rage mode when called mafia as town.

It's weird but we don't need to deal with it now.

I'm lynching one of the cop claims today and that is that.


Mate that is exactly what I have been proposing, I suddenly want to hug you.
But one of the claimed cops says he wants to not lynch into the cop claims cause then he's supposed to get more checks off.


I don't care about this. If he wanted to get more checks off he should not have claimed. Do you know which cop is saying that?



Robik obviously.


Well that is fucking retarded as fuck,

Let me get this straight.

Cop!Robik sees a cop claim, Cop!Robik counter claims in order to lynch the fake cop for sure.

Cop!Robik then says he doesn;t want to Lynch into the cop claims because he wants to get more checks off.

THEN WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT IN COUNTERCLAIMING THE INITIAL CLAIM???!?!? The whole point in counterclaiming is to lynch one of the claims.

That makes no sense to me at all.

Am I missing something?

This is actually a good point.

I really hope I'm not in bizarro land where Vivax is actually right and Robik is somehow, someway scum.


HAHAHAHAHAHAH
But when I say that Robik is full of shit in what he's saying cause he prefers to get more (possibly unreliable) checks rather than lynching obvious scum you just keep your ears shut and add me to the possible scum?

I stopped listening to you on Robik for quite some time because Robik was pretty much confirmed town in my eyes so your posts were boring. I still think he's very likely to be town.


Well if you think I'm scum you should listen to me cause there might be valuable hints in what I say.

The point is: I'm not fucking scum. I even talk so much you get bored so I have no idea how you can think I'm scum. I pointed out what's wrong with Robik since EoD2, no matter what his excuse is. If he was busy modding a game but still wasn't busy enough to keep posting in the thread and looking a the posts then something was odd.

I want to see Robik answer DP's points. I still find it almost impossible to believe that Robik played this kind of D3 as scum.

It's one of two things in your filter that give me pause; filter length and your D2 play where I felt you picked up the slack. I need to filter dive you properly but I'm not doing that at 3:15am.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 11:12 DarthPunk wrote:
All we should be discussing right now is which claim to lynch.

Ritoky. The way he took Robik's "rescind" seriously is so dumb there is no way he believes it.


Why wouldn't he believe it? SL already fakeclaimed cop and he shat on him for that, he could have had all reason to assume that Robik's rescinding was just another retarded fakeclaim, only claimed in order to get ritoky lynched cause maybe Robik was so super confident.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:38 GMT
#6659
So a scum fakeclaiming cop says about the alleged real cop:

because i don't believe he is hard ccing me, i think he is just being a dick; i still think he has a 2 in 3 chance of flipping mafia.


While the alleged real cop says "Let's lynch a townie and see what scum does". Obviously you don't know if I'm town yet. But I can guarantee you that I am. And from my perspective Robik ist just full.of.brown.

Let's go into a world where you are mafia. You decide to breadrumb stuff that makes you a cop, you claim cop. Then some guy (Robik) says he's cop. Another guy/(marv) asks you why you don't call him mafia. You say "I don't think he really claims cop but he likely is mafia not sure though (another guy did it too before after all)". The real cop says "Ok I'm not cop let's lynch a townie and see what mafia does".

Now, why the fuck wouldn't I (ritoky) call Robik confirmed scum if I were mafia since I know that it's going to end in a one-for-one trade?

Why does the "real cop" (Robik) not simply want to lynch the fakeclaming mafia and instead tries to direct the lynch onto me (Vivax=town).

The only reason ritoky could have thought Robik was being a dick is that he believed it wouldn't end in a one-for-one-trade. And that only happens if ritoky is really the cop cause mafia won't fakeclaim cop unless to achieve exactly that. If ritoky was mafia all he would have done was push Robik until he got lynched before getting lynched himself.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:41 GMT
#6661
You have no idea how tiring it is to think through al this suff while drunk
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:48 GMT
#6664
I'm so sad DP wasn't in DrH's slot from the start, He's like my personal jesus atm.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:51 GMT
#6666
The only guy besides me who says we should lynch between the two claims, which is the most rational approach to solving this game.

Now I'd just like if he told us who between ritoky and Robik is the mafia and I'll let his cleansing words enlighten my view of the game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
January 09 2015 02:55 GMT
#6667
Or maybe ritoky and Robik are both scum and Chezinu is the cop.

I'll commit suicide if such an atrocity is revealed.
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