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On January 05 2015 23:06 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On January 05 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2015 20:57 sicklucker wrote:
Think the word is being a dick. If koshi was still in the game he would be down to lynch rotiky over vivax No I'm quite sure he'd want to lynch Vivax. Sorry guys btw, I'm bad this game. I said the same thing if you add a "maybe" and he used it as an argument for me being scum. Marv can you give us a take on VE as you two are buddies, I remember he was easily swayed from mine to geript's wagon but I totally don't recall why exactly he was swayed, I think he didn't say something like "Oh wow now I think Vivax is shitting townie bricks" so it kinda looks like he was just selecting between popular wagons. Probably not one that will help you very much. like your points on what he did might be valid, but i've never been able to read VE like that. essentially always on tone.
i've had him kinda town on this basis for most of the game. the issue with this is that as my reads polarise a bit and there become better/longer reasons for people to be town, this gets weaker as something on its ownessentially i'm a little worried i'm townreading him when he's mafia, but at the moment i'm still plumping town, and there are way, way better targets than VE anyways. pretty much mirrors my thoughts on him
Can you explain to me what a tone read is? Also the blded part ishard for me to understand.
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On January 05 2015 23:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:06 KelsierSC wrote:On January 05 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On January 05 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2015 20:57 sicklucker wrote:
Think the word is being a dick. If koshi was still in the game he would be down to lynch rotiky over vivax No I'm quite sure he'd want to lynch Vivax. Sorry guys btw, I'm bad this game. I said the same thing if you add a "maybe" and he used it as an argument for me being scum. Marv can you give us a take on VE as you two are buddies, I remember he was easily swayed from mine to geript's wagon but I totally don't recall why exactly he was swayed, I think he didn't say something like "Oh wow now I think Vivax is shitting townie bricks" so it kinda looks like he was just selecting between popular wagons. Probably not one that will help you very much. like your points on what he did might be valid, but i've never been able to read VE like that. essentially always on tone.
i've had him kinda town on this basis for most of the game. the issue with this is that as my reads polarise a bit and there become better/longer reasons for people to be town, this gets weaker as something on its ownessentially i'm a little worried i'm townreading him when he's mafia, but at the moment i'm still plumping town, and there are way, way better targets than VE anyways. pretty much mirrors my thoughts on him Can you explain to me what a tone read is? Also the blded part ishard for me to understand.
tone is like tone of voice/post
the bolded part is saying that a tone read works for a d1 read but as the days progress and we have more information such as votes/night kills then things like tone become less relevant.
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Actually na fuck it im not the cop. I wanted to drag it out till the end of the night to rescind but I dont want the medic to be restricted to save me when mafia probably knows im fake by now. It woulda been smart if I did this with no medic but alas
My goal was obviously to take a bullet and gain information I made it pretty obvious to the real cop that I was pushing no hard agenda and Im sure no ones bad enough here to cc on day 2 for a likely vt.
I was softing hard and not committed to doing it. But I have a 100% way to prove im vt so I figured id dick around and see what info that would pop up.
I never would have really claimed instead just soften but I really did think ksc counter claimed me with a red check he was pushing me sooo hard that day out of no where. Like one of the two games I played with him he got are cop killed by doing the same thing so like you can understand this im sure. I misread the op and I thought I was the miller or framed so I figured when I got red check I had to play it out lol.
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On January 05 2015 23:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:06 KelsierSC wrote:On January 05 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On January 05 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2015 20:57 sicklucker wrote:
Think the word is being a dick. If koshi was still in the game he would be down to lynch rotiky over vivax No I'm quite sure he'd want to lynch Vivax. Sorry guys btw, I'm bad this game. I said the same thing if you add a "maybe" and he used it as an argument for me being scum. Marv can you give us a take on VE as you two are buddies, I remember he was easily swayed from mine to geript's wagon but I totally don't recall why exactly he was swayed, I think he didn't say something like "Oh wow now I think Vivax is shitting townie bricks" so it kinda looks like he was just selecting between popular wagons. Probably not one that will help you very much. like your points on what he did might be valid, but i've never been able to read VE like that. essentially always on tone.
i've had him kinda town on this basis for most of the game. the issue with this is that as my reads polarise a bit and there become better/longer reasons for people to be town, this gets weaker as something on its ownessentially i'm a little worried i'm townreading him when he's mafia, but at the moment i'm still plumping town, and there are way, way better targets than VE anyways. pretty much mirrors my thoughts on him Can you explain to me what a tone read is? Also the blded part ishard for me to understand.
lol. a tone read is just how someone sounds. i don't really know how to explain something so fundamental. i guess it would be, if you don't think about the content, how does that person come across to you?
to the bolded: quick example. Day 1: "I think VE's tone is townie" - that's easily a good enough reason not to lynch someone. LYLO: "I think VE's tone is townie" - well, that's no longer enough on its own to save/townread someone.
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On January 05 2015 23:27 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:24 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 23:06 KelsierSC wrote:On January 05 2015 23:05 marvellosity wrote:On January 05 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:On January 05 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2015 20:57 sicklucker wrote:
Think the word is being a dick. If koshi was still in the game he would be down to lynch rotiky over vivax No I'm quite sure he'd want to lynch Vivax. Sorry guys btw, I'm bad this game. I said the same thing if you add a "maybe" and he used it as an argument for me being scum. Marv can you give us a take on VE as you two are buddies, I remember he was easily swayed from mine to geript's wagon but I totally don't recall why exactly he was swayed, I think he didn't say something like "Oh wow now I think Vivax is shitting townie bricks" so it kinda looks like he was just selecting between popular wagons. Probably not one that will help you very much. like your points on what he did might be valid, but i've never been able to read VE like that. essentially always on tone.
i've had him kinda town on this basis for most of the game. the issue with this is that as my reads polarise a bit and there become better/longer reasons for people to be town, this gets weaker as something on its ownessentially i'm a little worried i'm townreading him when he's mafia, but at the moment i'm still plumping town, and there are way, way better targets than VE anyways. pretty much mirrors my thoughts on him Can you explain to me what a tone read is? Also the blded part ishard for me to understand. tone is like tone of voice/post the bolded part is saying that a tone read works for a d1 read but as the days progress and we have more information such as votes/night kills then things like tone become less relevant.
thx, you shall be my new spokesperson for marv-enterprises TM
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On January 05 2015 23:27 sicklucker wrote:
Actually na fuck it im not the cop. I wanted to drag it out till the end of the night to rescind but I dont want the medic to be restricted to save me when mafia probably knows im fake by now. It woulda been smart if I did this with no medic but alas
My goal was obviously to take a bullet and gain information I made it pretty obvious to the real cop that I was pushing no hard agenda and Im sure no ones bad enough here to cc on day 2 for a likely vt.
I was softing hard and not committed to doing it. But I have a 100% way to prove im vt so I figured id dick around and see what info that would pop up.
The only thing you could do that is even dumber than the fakeclaim itself is rescinding at night. I have no words for this.
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And the people who pushed the issue at night should feel bad too.
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On January 05 2015 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:27 sicklucker wrote:
Actually na fuck it im not the cop. I wanted to drag it out till the end of the night to rescind but I dont want the medic to be restricted to save me when mafia probably knows im fake by now. It woulda been smart if I did this with no medic but alas
My goal was obviously to take a bullet and gain information I made it pretty obvious to the real cop that I was pushing no hard agenda and Im sure no ones bad enough here to cc on day 2 for a likely vt.
I was softing hard and not committed to doing it. But I have a 100% way to prove im vt so I figured id dick around and see what info that would pop up.
The only thing you could do that is even dumber than the fakeclaim itself is rescinding at night. I have no words for this.
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On January 05 2015 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
And the people who pushed the issue at night should feel bad too.
yeh I feel bad for pushing my scum read
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Na theres no double stacking and mafia knows im fake like 70% of the time. So were wasting are medic save if I dont out. Dont worry I have it alot of thought.
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On January 05 2015 23:33 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
And the people who pushed the issue at night should feel bad too. yeh I feel bad for pushing my scum read
You could have done that when the night is over and he is still alive. You know - when you can vote and pushing people thus makes sense.
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On January 05 2015 23:34 sicklucker wrote:
Na theres no double stacking and mafia knows im fake like 70% of the time. So were wasting are medic save if I dont out. Dont worry I have it alot of thought.
how does that make sense? if you'd shut up you'd have been a likely hit AND save tonight
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Doctor: 1. Not notified of anything. Saves one save per night, cannot save self or same target twice consecutively. Save is 100%, there is no stacking KP to dodge a doctor save.
The major fault in my logic
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On January 05 2015 23:34 sicklucker wrote:
Na theres no double stacking and mafia knows im fake like 70% of the time. So were wasting are medic save if I dont out. Dont worry I have it alot of thought.
The bolded - what?
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On January 05 2015 23:35 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:33 KelsierSC wrote:On January 05 2015 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
And the people who pushed the issue at night should feel bad too. yeh I feel bad for pushing my scum read You could have done that when the night is over and he is still alive. You know - when you can vote and pushing people thus makes sense.
I spotted an inconsistency from someone I read as scum. I'm not holding that shit in.
I have no regrets
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I can't really blame him jat, when things don't make sense I instinctively push for them too but you're right that it was bad.
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On January 05 2015 23:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can't really blame him jat, when things don't make sense I instinctively push for them too but you're right that it was bad.
I can and will blame him. It is not forbidden to use your brain from time to time.
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mafia never shoots me ever tonight. Trust me ive thought about it for days you thought about it for 5 minutes. They expect the medic to save me if im real or fake so wont shot me. And the medic should save me.
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On January 05 2015 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2015 23:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can't really blame him jat, when things don't make sense I instinctively push for them too but you're right that it was bad. I can and will blame him. It is not forbidden to use your brain from time to time.
I firmly disagree with that statement.
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