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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 05 2015 06:46 GMT
#4221
On January 05 2015 15:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 15:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Calm down

And lynch JAT


Alone for saying this I'll probably townread you.
Provided you mean it.


Scumreads geript
Leads shenannies on easy target batsnacks

Keeps scumreading geript
Gets enough votes on geript
Tries shenannies on Superbia

Votecount reveals geript needed to die to give space to another discussion
JAT decides to shenannie TWICE instead of lynching his biggest scum target AND allowing space for another discussion?

No way.

Grats. This is the dumbest shit I heard all game and vivax is in it.


Thanks. I'll be on you all day long. And I'll get you lynched because you're scum.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 05 2015 06:47 GMT
#4222
On January 05 2015 15:45 sicklucker wrote:
When your behind in a numbers game you take risks. We should take some risks with are lynch. We need to hit alot of mafia inarow


What are you talking about?

Gonna sleep. Anyway, I broke down that palmar's post, gonna catch up tomorrow kthxbai
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 06:48 GMT
#4223
Palmers a good one hes been all talk so far.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 05 2015 06:48 GMT
#4224
On January 05 2015 15:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 15:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Calm down

And lynch JAT


Alone for saying this I'll probably townread you.
Provided you mean it.


Scumreads geript
Leads shenannies on easy target batsnacks

Keeps scumreading geript
Gets enough votes on geript
Tries shenannies on Superbia

Votecount reveals geript needed to die to give space to another discussion
JAT decides to shenannie TWICE instead of lynching his biggest scum target AND allowing space for another discussion?

No way.

Grats. This is the dumbest shit I heard all game and vivax is in it.


Thanks. I'll be on you all day long. And I'll get you lynched because you're scum.

Cute.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 06:49 GMT
#4225
On January 05 2015 15:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 15:45 sicklucker wrote:
When your behind in a numbers game you take risks. We should take some risks with are lynch. We need to hit alot of mafia inarow


What are you talking about?

Gonna sleep. Anyway, I broke down that palmar's post, gonna catch up tomorrow kthxbai


I mean if people afk there votes on vivax again ima bust shit up.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 05 2015 06:50 GMT
#4226
Anyway, I'm gonna read eden's filter tomorrow too because I have a feeling he could be on the right track. I don't understand why mafia would kill him.
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 06:52 GMT
#4227
Did ritoky scum read vivax? Because he conveniently moved his vote off the cop and onto the guy who didnt flip town at the last minute of yesterday. If he didnt scum read vivax he should be everyones lynch
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 05 2015 06:53 GMT
#4228
On January 05 2015 15:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 15:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 05 2015 15:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Calm down

And lynch JAT


Alone for saying this I'll probably townread you.
Provided you mean it.


Scumreads geript
Leads shenannies on easy target batsnacks

Keeps scumreading geript
Gets enough votes on geript
Tries shenannies on Superbia

Votecount reveals geript needed to die to give space to another discussion
JAT decides to shenannie TWICE instead of lynching his biggest scum target AND allowing space for another discussion?

No way.

Grats. This is the dumbest shit I heard all game and vivax is in it.


Thanks. I'll be on you all day long. And I'll get you lynched because you're scum.

Cute.


[image loading]
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 06:53 GMT
#4229
On January 05 2015 15:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyway, I'm gonna read eden's filter tomorrow too because I have a feeling he could be on the right track. I don't understand why mafia would kill him.


He was the consensus town. Not a bad idea but he was like the top town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 05 2015 06:59 GMT
#4230
On January 05 2015 15:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyway, I'm gonna read eden's filter tomorrow too because I have a feeling he could be on the right track. I don't understand why mafia would kill him.

Maybe you should read the thread instead GB. Just sayin.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 07:00 GMT
#4231
Ok ritoky did list vivax as scum .

regardless his vote was 100% pointless 1 minute before deadline. Why would he even both changing it? Oh because his vote was afked on an un cced cop.

He changes his vote off me because he cares about his appearance of not looking scummy more then he cares about actually finding them.

Say vivax or super are his mafia partner. Hes keeping his options open he could fake afk if its a close vivax vote or vote either other wagon if hes partners with super .

Ritoky has not casted one vote that mattered the whole game he just cares about not pissing people off and his appearance. Why dont we fckin kill him?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 07:13 GMT
#4232
Did a quick runthrough on edin. Like I cant even find who he scum reads. He just cleared me and I dont think he liked that very much.

His last will was pretty much never lynch doctor(t),koshi(ct),me,(t) cyz whos gonna be confirmed when hes mod killed.

Mafia didnt like it very much when he cleared me or when I claimed cop because they were clearly gunnin for me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 07:16 GMT
#4233
On January 02 2015 15:58 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, here's some vote count analysis. First, the count, hidden behind double quotes for readability. Added green for batsnacks' flip.

Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 13:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
I kount vot


ritoky (1): DoctorHelvetica, sicklucker, marvellosity, Superbia

TheChyz (3): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[Xp]

DoctorHelvetica (0): TheChyz, Koshi

geript (4): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, DoctorHelvetica, Marvellosity, justanothertownie, KelsierSC, sicklucker, Eden1892

marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp]

Lazermonkey (0): TheChyz, Batsnacks

IAmRobik (0): Artanis[XP]

sicklucker (1): ritoky

Vivax (2): Koshi, geript

Batsnacks (6): Justanothertownie, eden1892, doctorhelvetica, artanis[Xp], damdred, sicklucker

Not Voting: folks

Currently batsnacks is set to be lynched.

until deadline.


First thing I want to look at is outliers, because I think they tend to be easier to figure out. The three wagons at end of day were Chyz, geript and batsnacks, so all other voters are defined as outliers here. They are:

Superbia
ritoky
Koshi
geript

Additionally the nonvoting RebirthOfLegend can go here.

Superbia:
Has all of two posts in the game, neither of any substance. Says ritoky claimed mafia with their big reads post without explaining why, votes ritoky and then bails for the rest of the day, not bothering to convince anyone to vote for ritoky. Ignores JAT asking for an explanation, no one else really seems to care either way.

I don't like this. For all I can derive from Superbia's thought process from this vote, this might as well be a dice roll vote. There's nothing here for me to make any sense of. If Superbia is town and believes ritoky is mafia then why not try to convince anyone to kill ritoky? And if Superbia doesn't then why completely abandon the thread and not bother to try to figure out who is mafia?

ritoky:
After the vote (which came between his big reads list post and his next post itt), ritoky only brings up the case on sicklucker once... when sicklucker questions him on it. Spends most of the day being engaged in other discussions and feeling out other players for their direction, but doesn't push the case on sicklucker. And it's not even not pushing it because of a change of heart or anything, as far as I can see. The case is just dropped altogether without any mention, like it never existed. After talking to sicklucker there's only one passing reference to the suspicion at all (responding to GlowingBear and saying they were "on the same page" concerning, among others, sicklucker).

This is really suspicious considering how aggressively ritoky pushed early in the game. Even allowing for a change in posting style due to time constraints resulting from ER work, you figure that if ritoky is still sure about the read on sicklucker that there'd be some effort to push it. And ritoky can't even claim to have had a change of heart, because sometime during ritoky's last burst of activity, (s)he posted an updated vote count including the vote for sicklucker. I feel like if I were a townie here and I had posted that vote count update after suspecting sicklucker, and I had internally changed my mind about sicklucker being mafia, posting that I was voting for sicklucker would be a wakeup call. Like "whoa, wait, I'm still on that guy? I need to move my vote."

Koshi:
Arrived at suspicion of Vivax about an hour before posting a vote, pressed Vivax on a few key questions during that hour, pushed the hell out of a Vivax lynch before going to bed at a time which 100% syncs up with his irl location.

Sorry that was short but this looks clean as can be. Only reason Koshi was on an outlier was because of a lack of time to push the case once it formulated. Koshi is probably town.

geript:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch?

This is garbage.

Vivax wasn't a viable wagon at all when geript posted and geript had enough time to see that. It was 20 minutes before the lynch. The switch wasn't even last-second, it was last-hour. At the time he voted Chyz was in no danger of being voted off. How do you check in to a voting thread and vote for someone who isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed? And especially if you "get why Bat was sketch," how in the world do you have a hangup about voting for him and instead park on an outlier?

And then there's this gem shortly before:

Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 12:23 geript wrote:
Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia.


So now it's checking into a voting thread, voting for someone you're not even sure is mafia who also isn't a viable wagon out of fear that either you or someone else who isn't a viable wagon is going to get killed.

geript has a lot of explaining to do. Doc asks a good question about why mafia!geript does this in light of batsnacks flipping town; I feel like the answer that came to mind for me (not wanting to be a town wagon) isn't a very good one, and it's still the best one I have. But I don't get the townie mindset that leads to ^^^that.


TL;DR
ritoky, Superbia mafia
geript wtf


ah ya this post is why hes dead I remember now can we kill ritoky yet?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2015 08:33 GMT
#4234
Yes, ritoky may be a super good kill.
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 05 2015 08:49 GMT
#4235
A good point is that Eden wasn't universally townread, at least that's my impression and I was even suspicious of him during N1 so it's quite possible he was right on ritoky and super as geript and Koshi have now flipped and there's basically no other scumread remaining that could warrant him being killed.

Still feel like Robik is scum but this forces me to reevaluate. Not gonna touch JAT for a while I think and GBs points didn't impress me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 09:03 GMT
#4236
Well theirs 5 scum you see. These are two but theirs 3 others
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 05 2015 09:14 GMT
#4237
On January 02 2015 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:50 Palmar wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:49 marvellosity wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:49 Palmar wrote:
How are we looking on the lynch geript thing?

good.

If he's town, you're mafia. 100%. Just lay down and die if he flips town.

We should really just use this flowchart. It's pretty much perfect.
[image loading]


I think it's also about time for this.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 09:41 GMT
#4238
Is marv really that predictable
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 05 2015 09:46 GMT
#4239
bleh. i'd hoped geript/super was scum/scum and vivax was the town wagon.

hi vivax.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 05 2015 09:49 GMT
#4240
And if he is its kind of weird since palmar,ve,and, robik all decided to kill him so easily in the last mini hum. I get good vibes from him tho and I remember after last game he mentioned he has to make his town game worse to win as mafia
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