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On January 12 2015 22:55 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 22:43 GlowingBear wrote:On January 12 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote:On January 12 2015 05:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Did SL give fake checks night2? This could be revealing. I checked lm and I changed my check to dandred because all the scummy people knew my claim was bullshit This post makes no sense. let me dumb it down for you. Ritoky and super instantly knew my claim was bs while everyone else thought it was real so I think LM was on their team.
So why are you disagreeing with me about LM trying to gain towncred hammering Superbia and why aren't you voting him/pushing him right now?
If you fake claim a green check on a scum, they know your claim is fake and they don't have to waste a bullet on you. This is what you're trying to say, right? Because this is exactly what I've thought in case you're actually town.
But there is a lack of push on LM. Why?
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On January 12 2015 22:54 sicklucker wrote:
Gb and vivax are basically claiming their mafia agenda whenever they try to put scum on me
SL, if you're town you're so stupid it hurts. If you were this townie as you think you are, scum wouldn't push you, they would kill you at night. Jesus Christ, man.
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Your lack of push on LM while considering him scummy really fits this over defensive post by LM. It really connects you both
On January 12 2015 05:49 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2015 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:On January 12 2015 05:34 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 12 2015 05:01 GlowingBear wrote:On January 12 2015 04:57 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 10 2015 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:On January 10 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:
A few questions GB
Who are the other mafia on superbia besides lazer?
Also the theory rests on that rit is the framer. What if he's not what does that change? It makes lazermonkey town. Ritoky must be lynched today anyway, there is no motive for Superbia to waste his vote if ritoky was town. GB, what do you think about this now that ritoky did not flip framer? This was before I thought about the scenario where mafia didn't really believed Robik was cop and was trying to guarantee ritoky's claim on the next day. So, you're still scum to my eyes. waitwat? Do you REALLY believe this? I mean, alot of people was unsure about who was cop between Robik and ritoky but scum knew that ritoky was scum, so they shouldn't have been unsure at all. Kelsier was hinting he was the cop, so was SL. The fact that SL didn't die night2, btw, is odd Lol, yhea but we are talking about D3 now. Kel didn't claim cop. Robik did. Do you really think that scum thought that anyone but Robik was cop? I mean, he obviously wasn't modconfirmed but he was really fucking likely to be cop at that point.
The bolded response looks like a hard deflection.
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On January 12 2015 23:06 marvellosity wrote:
come on, GB. A hard deflection? I don't think anyone was massively surprised at the n2 kills, so it wasn't anything at all that needed deflecting.
sl: hold on to me tight, i promise everything will be ok
If I say something is odd and the guy just say "yes but let's not talk about it" is a deflection. It doesn't matter if night2 kills where not a surprise. The guy is dismissing an important fact.
He agrees with me, marv. If he thought like you, he would say "I disagree, night kills were perfectly done"
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On January 12 2015 23:13 marvellosity wrote:
well, it could be read that he is dismissing a fact that he doesn't see as particularly important after all.
i'm not sure how much you can read into someone going "lol, yeah" when what you mentioned was only really a sidepoint to the main topic at the time
Add that to the lack of push from SL to LM.
SL, who thought that mafia not shooting him night2 implies he green checked a scum.
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On January 13 2015 01:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 00:47 Palmar wrote:On January 06 2015 00:44 Damdred wrote:
Ok just caught up and woke up,
I am upset at you SL, if you are trying to draw a bullet you do not unclaim during the night you let the medic make the wifom decision. I'll talk more about this tomorrow if it comes up.
I'll be honest though I really hate it how vivax and LM hard defended super during the eod, i'm not really sure why you shouldn't be ok to lynch super. Kels reasoning I think made sense to me, he didn't hard defend super.
Because of this post, if super is mafia, you are too.Also I'm honestly going to just chill. There is literally no one being not bad in this town at the moment. Everyone has either lynched townies, or failed to push alternative lynches. This means mafia has no idea whom to shoot tonight, because the doc save is guaranteed. So I guess I'll just see who they shoot, and figure the game out tomorrow. I may start reading tonight, but I'm not going to conclude much for now. Why did you arrive at this conclusion? Damdred is asking a lot of "clarifying" questions, you're right, and that along with his opposite reads on Dr.H and Ritoky does point to scum. However he did hop on the Superbia lynch over two town wagons and did not stray which I feel offsets it a bit. I also like how he's gone after Lazer. However I just decided to go look at an older game. His most recent scumgame according to the database was Fantasy Football 2 and towngame Russian Today. I believe I've heard before that Damdred doesn't engage his scum suspects when he's scum. In this game he has, so I wanted to collaborate that. First thing I notice in his scumgame is this: Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
God thank you, I hated rolling scum in the game that just finished. Damdred totes town Joking about being town. The opposite and yet similar to what he did this game. Not sure what it means but it could be significant. In the game, he engages a few of his suspects at the start but then basically only starts conversing with GlowingBear and makes random oneliners here and there. In this game, he looks more engaged with a variety of other people rather than the narrow focus he had in FF. So, Russian Today: Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 08:18 Damdred wrote:
Hey guys I'm town with great success.
I'm finishing up this service at work so I'm going to be catching up on break and posting thoughts Starts the other game with a joke about his alignment as well. Guess it has no significance after all. In Russian today he's a lot more insightful, engages a lot of people in discussion. In the Towngame he also asks a few seemingly silly questions, but that's hard to check since that'd require going through the thread and seeing if it makes sense and I aint got time for that. This game he looks more like Russian Today so I'm going to go with Damdred being town this game.
This isn't true Artanis. Damdreds play in this game fits his scum meta. He is asking questions without clear intentions. His thoughts aren't well exposed in the thread. He just asks questions and let those answers drown in the thread.
I read him more as null because he did things that looked townie, although I don't remember exactly what they were.
There was a post of him that he asked people to give thoughts on when he got ignored, which I thought was townie.
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To be honest, I can easily see damdred, LM and Kelsier is mafia.
I'm sure LM is.
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On January 13 2015 01:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2015 01:39 GlowingBear wrote:On January 13 2015 01:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 06 2015 00:47 Palmar wrote:On January 06 2015 00:44 Damdred wrote:
Ok just caught up and woke up,
I am upset at you SL, if you are trying to draw a bullet you do not unclaim during the night you let the medic make the wifom decision. I'll talk more about this tomorrow if it comes up.
I'll be honest though I really hate it how vivax and LM hard defended super during the eod, i'm not really sure why you shouldn't be ok to lynch super. Kels reasoning I think made sense to me, he didn't hard defend super.
Because of this post, if super is mafia, you are too.Also I'm honestly going to just chill. There is literally no one being not bad in this town at the moment. Everyone has either lynched townies, or failed to push alternative lynches. This means mafia has no idea whom to shoot tonight, because the doc save is guaranteed. So I guess I'll just see who they shoot, and figure the game out tomorrow. I may start reading tonight, but I'm not going to conclude much for now. Why did you arrive at this conclusion? Damdred is asking a lot of "clarifying" questions, you're right, and that along with his opposite reads on Dr.H and Ritoky does point to scum. However he did hop on the Superbia lynch over two town wagons and did not stray which I feel offsets it a bit. I also like how he's gone after Lazer. However I just decided to go look at an older game. His most recent scumgame according to the database was Fantasy Football 2 and towngame Russian Today. I believe I've heard before that Damdred doesn't engage his scum suspects when he's scum. In this game he has, so I wanted to collaborate that. First thing I notice in his scumgame is this: On October 23 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
God thank you, I hated rolling scum in the game that just finished. Damdred totes town Joking about being town. The opposite and yet similar to what he did this game. Not sure what it means but it could be significant. In the game, he engages a few of his suspects at the start but then basically only starts conversing with GlowingBear and makes random oneliners here and there. In this game, he looks more engaged with a variety of other people rather than the narrow focus he had in FF. So, Russian Today: On November 28 2014 08:18 Damdred wrote:
Hey guys I'm town with great success.
I'm finishing up this service at work so I'm going to be catching up on break and posting thoughts Starts the other game with a joke about his alignment as well. Guess it has no significance after all. In Russian today he's a lot more insightful, engages a lot of people in discussion. In the Towngame he also asks a few seemingly silly questions, but that's hard to check since that'd require going through the thread and seeing if it makes sense and I aint got time for that. This game he looks more like Russian Today so I'm going to go with Damdred being town this game. This isn't true Artanis. Damdreds play in this game fits his scum meta. He is asking questions without clear intentions. His thoughts aren't well exposed in the thread. He just asks questions and let those answers drown in the thread. I read him more as null because he did things that looked townie, although I don't remember exactly what they were. There was a post of him that he asked people to give thoughts on when he got ignored, which I thought was townie. Reading through his filter in the Russian Today game he looked like he had a bunch of random questions without much purpose either. They seem to be rhetorical rather than clarifying in nature though. A few examples: Show nested quote +On November 30 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote:On November 30 2014 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Elvis's completely different playstyle
Reads on ezlynch players
Getting bailed out at the last moment
You're cum and I know it So my scum team is all the people who swiched to gb at the last minute? Show nested quote +On November 30 2014 03:29 Damdred wrote:On November 30 2014 03:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 30 2014 03:23 Damdred wrote:On November 30 2014 03:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 30 2014 03:20 Damdred wrote:On November 30 2014 03:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 30 2014 03:10 Damdred wrote:On November 30 2014 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Elvis's completely different playstyle
Reads on ezlynch players
Getting bailed out at the last moment
You're cum and I know it So my scum team is all the people who swiched to gb at the last minute? No, just JAT I see, to be truthful i was surprised people swiched off me and onto GB at the last second. My list of scummy people is debatable, if someone does something scummy though shouldn't you scum read them even if they are an easy lynch? I can't comment on elvis part It ain't scummy, it just has the appearance of being so So you don't think sno is acting scummy? I was talking about your reasoning on me I had more than one scum read and you made a general statement so you say you are just making these statements from OMGUS? Show nested quote +On November 30 2014 08:13 Damdred wrote:On November 30 2014 08:11 justanothertownie wrote:On November 30 2014 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
if people can read that set of quotes and tell me damdred is town, i am all ears
that's all i care about now If he flips scum can we finally lynch HF then? When i flip town what then? Hm.
The thing is that he doesn't do anything with those questions.
There is a pattern on damdreds play which is clearly trying to solve the game. He gathers information and post a long post trying to solve it. I don't see it here.
Specially late game, I don't think he is one to be so passive like he is now.
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On January 13 2015 01:45 sicklucker wrote:
Actually two people in this game avoid alot of scrutiny by putting scum on me even tho the other 9 players all said there dumb and to stop (gb,vivax)
This doesn't make sense.
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On January 13 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
Chez is also my friend, and he has also said some very townie things which is hard for him to do.
Like?
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On January 13 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
I just read through GBs filter and I seriously have absolutely no idea why he thinks that I am scum. Can someone read his filter and help me out here?
Hammering Superbia.
Period.
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I'm bored, sorry.
I won't even be mad if you guys lynch me because I understand I'm not playing optimal.
But this game, I don't know... It bored me. In a way I can't get involved.
I can't stop thinking LM is mafia and I'll be voting him, though.
But in the end I may sheep koshi/Robik into Vivax because koshi has got swag or marv into palmar because if r gets palmar wrong we just lynch him next day.
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On January 13 2015 04:15 Damdred wrote:
At least give us reads or somethin gb?
I can't say much, really.
If you want, I can make a list post of impressions. But strong reads, I have none. I had a strong read on DP but he's dead now.
Sicklucker is really difficult, I think his confidence matches his scum play. He is confident as town but not as confident as he is here. I don't think as town he is this confident to even call people dumb. Also, his defense to why he is town seems a little bit forced, specially after DP died. That reaction was shit, IMO.
If you read Titanic MS Paint, this thing that mafia is trying to get him lynched and yadda yadda is all over the thread. Specially when getting into LYLO.
Also, damdy, nightkills were pro if marv is town. Mafia avoided every doctor save. I bet there is a vet in the mafia team. The question is: who?
I mean, with the day1 kills, I bet doctor tried to save marv. Mafia avoiding killing mafia to kill EDEN is pro play if marv is town.
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Mafia avoiding killing marv*
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On January 13 2015 04:48 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2015 04:25 GlowingBear wrote:On January 13 2015 04:15 Damdred wrote:
At least give us reads or somethin gb? I can't say much, really. If you want, I can make a list post of impressions. But strong reads, I have none. I had a strong read on DP but he's dead now. Sicklucker is really difficult, I think his confidence matches his scum play. He is confident as town but not as confident as he is here. I don't think as town he is this confident to even call people dumb. Also, his defense to why he is town seems a little bit forced, specially after DP died. That reaction was shit, IMO. If you read Titanic MS Paint, this thing that mafia is trying to get him lynched and yadda yadda is all over the thread. Specially when getting into LYLO. Also, damdy, nightkills were pro if marv is town. Mafia avoided every doctor save. I bet there is a vet in the mafia team. The question is: who? I mean, with the day1 kills, I bet doctor tried to save marv. Mafia avoiding killing mafia to kill EDEN is pro play if marv is town. Show nested quote +On January 13 2015 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
To be honest, I can easily see damdred, LM and Kelsier is mafia.
I'm sure LM is. Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:On January 10 2015 11:27 DarthPunk wrote:On January 10 2015 11:25 GlowingBear wrote:
In a silent thread, with the lynch well defined, I started posting to further solve the game.
What is the scum motive to push the thread forward? Come on now. Do you really think your contributions before our conversation had any more value than a token effort to ensure you are able to make the very argument you are now making? HAHAHAHAHAHA See? This is exactly what I said it was going to happen. Answer: yes, because I'm not being strongly scum read, I had no motive to gain towncred with it. I'm also giving another scum, lazermonkey, on a silver platter Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Regardless the theory you have of why mafia preferred lynching ritoky, it's obvious Superbia was hammered by mafia, which makes Lazer mafia.
Marv, it made sense a scum team of SL and Robik to me, after a Robik flip, it's weird that SL sheeped Robik if he is mafia.
I still don't know who the last mafia are. SL isn't under my radar. But I think there are better lynch targets.
Marv, I wouldn't flip my read on Lazer after a vote count analysis without being pushed just to gain towncred. Come one.
If I gain that much towncred I die at night. I only survive if I am mafia. And I'll e obvious mafia after that. You do understand how this is a town play and not a mafia play, I know you do. So I'm not a strong scum read after all?
Nope. You're my best read, that's all, because it makes sense under my theory mafia didn't know Robik was really the cop.
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On January 13 2015 04:48 Vivax wrote:
GB marv mafia?
Could it be this easy?
Uhm what?
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On January 13 2015 04:54 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2015 04:52 GlowingBear wrote:On January 13 2015 04:48 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 13 2015 04:25 GlowingBear wrote:On January 13 2015 04:15 Damdred wrote:
At least give us reads or somethin gb? I can't say much, really. If you want, I can make a list post of impressions. But strong reads, I have none. I had a strong read on DP but he's dead now. Sicklucker is really difficult, I think his confidence matches his scum play. He is confident as town but not as confident as he is here. I don't think as town he is this confident to even call people dumb. Also, his defense to why he is town seems a little bit forced, specially after DP died. That reaction was shit, IMO. If you read Titanic MS Paint, this thing that mafia is trying to get him lynched and yadda yadda is all over the thread. Specially when getting into LYLO. Also, damdy, nightkills were pro if marv is town. Mafia avoided every doctor save. I bet there is a vet in the mafia team. The question is: who? I mean, with the day1 kills, I bet doctor tried to save marv. Mafia avoiding killing mafia to kill EDEN is pro play if marv is town. On January 13 2015 01:40 GlowingBear wrote:
To be honest, I can easily see damdred, LM and Kelsier is mafia.
I'm sure LM is. On January 10 2015 11:31 GlowingBear wrote:On January 10 2015 11:27 DarthPunk wrote:On January 10 2015 11:25 GlowingBear wrote:
In a silent thread, with the lynch well defined, I started posting to further solve the game.
What is the scum motive to push the thread forward? Come on now. Do you really think your contributions before our conversation had any more value than a token effort to ensure you are able to make the very argument you are now making? HAHAHAHAHAHA See? This is exactly what I said it was going to happen. Answer: yes, because I'm not being strongly scum read, I had no motive to gain towncred with it. I'm also giving another scum, lazermonkey, on a silver platter On January 10 2015 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Regardless the theory you have of why mafia preferred lynching ritoky, it's obvious Superbia was hammered by mafia, which makes Lazer mafia.
Marv, it made sense a scum team of SL and Robik to me, after a Robik flip, it's weird that SL sheeped Robik if he is mafia.
I still don't know who the last mafia are. SL isn't under my radar. But I think there are better lynch targets.
Marv, I wouldn't flip my read on Lazer after a vote count analysis without being pushed just to gain towncred. Come one.
If I gain that much towncred I die at night. I only survive if I am mafia. And I'll e obvious mafia after that. You do understand how this is a town play and not a mafia play, I know you do. So I'm not a strong scum read after all? Nope. You're my best read, that's all, because it makes sense under my theory mafia didn't know Robik was really the cop. Thats like... Not the impression you get from reading those posts. And why would you base everything on the fact that scum didn't know Robik was the cop? I have already explained why I think this is an insanely unlikely scenario but even then, this is crazy wifom.
Best scenario through my POV
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On January 13 2015 05:00 Vivax wrote:
I don't know how you could make that mistake GB.
What mistake godammit
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On January 13 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote:
THe mafia avoiding killing mafia (marv) is pro
What about it?
Do you think this is a slip?
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