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I know I made a terrible impression with my behavior but I think that has unfairly skewed how people are looking at what I'm saying about chyz.
In every accusation chyz makes he qualifies it by saying "im a hypocrite". he's saying he's guilty of the same behavior of the people he's accusing and then flipping it in his posts to make me look bad because i'm focused on them instead of him. again he accuses me (one post that he said was a joke). ten seconds later he calls me really scummy and tries to get traction on it in the thread. that fails completely. he goes to bed, wakes up and says he was actually fine with me the whole time. that i was trying to scum hunt? then says i'm scummy for tunneling him and scummy for being a bully.
but wait, am i really to believe he was kidding when he voted for me and made two more posts about itsupporting his vote and asking the thread if anyone else follows his suspicions. so that was just a joke? if it wasn't serious why are we letting that slide regardless?
then he comes in even later and says he actually did find me scummy during and it was after he woke up that he decided i was town....but that's not what he said at all when he actually did wake up. he was appealing to geript to make me look scummy again. meta is totally different as i said before and his case on lm and his read on eden are full of fishy shit
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oh yeah plus he martyred and gave up despite the fact that i was the only person voting for him posted a big fluff list and poof he's gone. funny how when he got mislynched in his last game he was super polite and just trying to get his scumreads out as much as he could. funny how five minutes before he was tilting and whining that he was gonna quit he was buddying up to me and trying to seek MY approval on one of his reads. this is way stronger than what i had to say about geript... talk about geripts meta how about the HUGE difference between the way TheChyz forms and follows his scumreads in that game vs his posts in this game that have nothing to do with me. That LazerMonkey case is way vaguer and sloppy than anything he had there
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On January 02 2015 10:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 10:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 02 2015 10:39 Vivax wrote:On January 02 2015 10:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 02 2015 10:32 Vivax wrote:
Might be I'm just bad at the game or simply cause I'm not caught up but I don't feel as strongly about lynching geript as the majority here seems to. When I asked Artanis it didn't convince me, when I looked at that geript-marv interaction it didn't click either, although it seemed to be of great importance to DrH even though his fav. lynch is still Cyhz which to me makes more sense. Marv says geript may or may not be scum. Geript says "you're fear lynching me because you're scum". Marv calls him out. Geript backs down and says he was being paranoid because he assumed Marv was scum. Then he calls Marv scum again and uses the old fear lynching as evidence again.... being that defensive over a null read look bad too. you don't think so? If you put it like that it just looks like two people doing and saying dumb things, but maybe it's cause I'm halfway drunk. M: You maybe scum. G: You want to lynch me cause your're scum. M: U wot m8. G: Sorry I didn't mean it cause I thought you were scum. G: Oh well actually you're scum cause you want to lynch me cause you don't want me to lynch you. Ehhhh That's not quite how it plays out. What the fuck has geript contributed to this game? He's about to be lynched and he's popping in absolute fluff. There's even a small amount of traction on marv but he's not doinganything to capitalize on that.= like he would if he really believed it. if geript reallyb elieved it he wouldn't shut up about it either. he even uses the same term "fear lynching" again . Well he has contributed more than me or RoL for example but the matter of fact is: Did he fake contribute? The slam dunk part here seems to be that he's not contributing more than his town standard and that he tried to contribute when faced with marv's nullness by calling marv scum. From my own experience I know that calling marv scum is a very ballsy thing to do as he has some sort of wizardry that makes him seem important but in this case I can't tell if it's fake from geript.
because when i read his case i get the feeling he doesn't really believe it and his behavior (he's clearly still lurking and reading) now supports that
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On January 02 2015 10:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Everybody knows filter length isn't alignment indicative for me. I've said at pre game that I was traveling and my activity would be low. I'm sorry I'm at the Caribbean, I suppose.
My points on marv are 3
1) Filter length
2) scum not picking that (if people didn't actually pick it)
3) Him lurking and posting when I've threw suspicion on him.
If you're all not up to lynch marv, Id like to lynch between Eden or Sicklucker, mostly. What I've read from geript made me have a slight townread on him, so I'm not lynching him.
It looks like geript will be lynched so I don't think it's weird that he wouldn't be super active right now. The filter length thing is wash cause of NYE
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i lost too many brain cells over the years
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i always start feeling nervous when votes start falling really fast but i also suck at vote analysis.
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Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent
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Gbs points on marv are terrible. Notice all the people who lurked hard and did nothing all game are being really aggressive close to deadline.
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Ah yes. My terrible son, TheChyz
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On January 02 2015 11:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gbs points on marv are terrible. Notice all the people who lurked hard and did nothing all game are being really aggressive close to deadline.
This only matter if they do the same thing again day 2. Fluff it up until the hours
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On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad. You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town  Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on.
When you say caught early on do you mean Marvs null read that you flipped over? What im hearing here is you gave up the second you got accused. Its day fucking 1 and the wagon isnt necessarily running roughshod over you.
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If geript is town why wouldn't he feel he could at least defend himself well enough not to get cop checked.
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Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense
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Tell me geripts play doesnt make sense if hes just trying to stonewall the town before his red flip and prepare for a possible cop check in case he lives. Makes perfect sense to me. Town invested in lynching scum makes zero sense so if you dont care about this game geript why not just replace out .
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On January 02 2015 11:09 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad. You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on. When you say caught early on do you mean Marvs null read that you flipped over? What im hearing here is you gave up the second you got accused. Its day fucking 1 and the wagon isnt necessarily running roughshod over you. Honestly DrH, you're either being a complete dumbass here today or you're mafia. Like I've told you 20 times. Take a valium. Take 80. Literally all your doing is being an asshole and harassing people. Which fwiw, is his scum meta. If people are curious, look at bluelightz. Listen to the mafia podcasts (he says so himself). I rescind my townread on DrH.
Ah yes, the famed bullying tactic of encouraging you to defend for yourself
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On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.
There are hours left and there are other wagons too. There are a few people who agree with you on vivax, why dont you talk about that instead of flinging shit at me. Apparently you had little problem with me up until right this second and you seem very convinced you will be lynched when I'm not sure anyone saw it that way until you threw a tantrum just now
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On January 02 2015 11:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Chyz I want to talk to you about a few things in your filter if you're still here. I won't let your father bully you I promise.
He already quit cause i was too mean
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I have seen scum martyr and self vote and ragequit in many different ways. Wifom, meaningless. Youre saying he has to be town because he martyred? His actions up to that point are scummy too.
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Not necessary if he left the game, eventually he'd get modkilled or lynched just for lurking.
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Since he's behaved very scummily up to then who cares? Can anyone save themselves in your eyes just by martyring? You obviously think the case holds no water regardless so why hammer on this specifically and why are you obsessed with chyz when ive been talking geript the last few pages anyway. Youve spent more effort trying to make me look bad than making any cogent points about vivax. At least im focused on my reads
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