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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 21:31 GMT
#2361
On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other.


wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats.


!!!!!! WTF
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 21:31 GMT
#2362
On January 03 2015 06:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:23 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:20 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
also if geript votes bats, and bats flips town

who the fuck do you think we lynch d2?

so then mafia goes 1-1 with town and like everyone who voted on geripts d1 which is like 6 people suddenly become confirmed town. That is probably why he doesn't vote bats.

Geript voting bats does not make anyone lynch geript.


...

Well I am happy to lynch geript today anyway. If he voted on a town to save himself that just confirms it for me.

WHAT?!?!?


JAT seems to be under the impression that geript isn't going to get lynched today and that he wouldn't have looked scummy at all if he voted bats.

I am correcting that impression

I NEVER said geript wouldn't be lynched. What I am saying is that voting for his counter wagon isn't scummy in the slightest.


right cool. but you asked me the motivation behind geript's vote and I gave it to you.

No. My point is that geript as mafia should have voted bats. Geript as a townie also should have voted bats. Hence my confusion about his ninja vote which is essentially just extremely weird and a null tell.

If he's scum it would make more sense to try to confuse everybody with his vote to make the discussions harder. If Geript is scum and at least 1 person voting for bats was scum they could have easily coordinated this vote to ensure his survival
RIP Aaliyah
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 02 2015 21:31 GMT
#2363
basically JAT I had an issue with you not switching off bats when the votes and bad cases came in from

eden,SL and dam because you didn't town read them and it was such a bad last minute lynch.

But then I read your filter and you didn't scum read geript so I don't mind it as much.

Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 02 2015 21:31 GMT
#2364
On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other.


wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats.



i mean sure but from my pov its unlikely everyone was town in a mislynch. There also trying to all bury me. Im still leaning town but not strong on eden artanis doc. I just completely recend my dandred read. That was a weak early read he has not really backed it up.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 21:32 GMT
#2365
read sickluckers filter right at the bats lynch it's allllllll over the place and looks like he's trying to get himself int he position where he's agreeing with as many people as possible at all times. same reason he's being so aggressive about geript earlier without really adding any thoughts or work of his own
RIP Aaliyah
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 02 2015 21:33 GMT
#2366
On January 03 2015 06:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other.


wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats.



i mean sure but from my pov its unlikely everyone was town in a mislynch. There also trying to all bury me. Im still leaning town but not strong on eden artanis doc. I just completely recend my dandred read. That was a weak early read he has not really backed it up.


so me and palmar are no longer town now either?

why did robick and marv become town aswell?
Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 21:33 GMT
#2367
On January 03 2015 06:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other.


wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats.



i mean sure but from my pov its unlikely everyone was town in a mislynch. There also trying to all bury me. Im still leaning town but not strong on eden artanis doc. I just completely recend my dandred read. That was a weak early read he has not really backed it up.

I somehow get the feeling you are talking right out of your ass man.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 21:33 GMT
#2368


2cringe
RIP Aaliyah
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 02 2015 21:34 GMT
#2369
I SAIDD DECENT TOWN READS. When you and your 4 town reads lead a mislynch, the strength of these reads go down but are not forgottten
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 02 2015 21:34 GMT
#2370
On January 03 2015 06:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:23 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:20 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
also if geript votes bats, and bats flips town

who the fuck do you think we lynch d2?

so then mafia goes 1-1 with town and like everyone who voted on geripts d1 which is like 6 people suddenly become confirmed town. That is probably why he doesn't vote bats.

Geript voting bats does not make anyone lynch geript.


...

Well I am happy to lynch geript today anyway. If he voted on a town to save himself that just confirms it for me.

WHAT?!?!?


JAT seems to be under the impression that geript isn't going to get lynched today and that he wouldn't have looked scummy at all if he voted bats.

I am correcting that impression

I NEVER said geript wouldn't be lynched. What I am saying is that voting for his counter wagon isn't scummy in the slightest.


right cool. but you asked me the motivation behind geript's vote and I gave it to you.

No. My point is that geript as mafia should have voted bats. Geript as a townie also should have voted bats. Hence my confusion about his ninja vote which is essentially just extremely weird and a null tell.


if his vote has confused you into thinking he might be town then there is a mafia motivation for his vote.

Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
January 02 2015 21:34 GMT
#2371
On January 03 2015 06:31 KelsierSC wrote:
basically JAT I had an issue with you not switching off bats when the votes and bad cases came in from

eden,SL and dam because you didn't town read them and it was such a bad last minute lynch.

But then I read your filter and you didn't scum read geript so I don't mind it as much.


Whatever.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 21:35 GMT
#2372
Can i have permussuon to edit that post for posting it in the wrong thread please
RIP Aaliyah
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22316 Posts
January 02 2015 21:36 GMT
#2373
On January 03 2015 06:27 Vivax wrote:
Here I have some stuff for you to analyse,a collection of list posts of differeing qualities. Now with better formatting and chronological order. Going to dwell over this myself, feel free to chime in.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:

note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted

koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile

gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile

*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*

artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile

lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile

marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile

^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^

*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*

thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile

palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile

damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile

*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*

SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile

vivax - no post

*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*

ritoky - town jesus

drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile

eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile

*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*

superbia - no post


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 06:01 geript wrote:
Meh, whatever Marv. I'm really hungry and don't feel like posting 4 pages on how you're scum. You are. Congrats you got me lynched; well Koshi got me lynched.

Here's a tl;dr version that people need to sheep:
1. Read on Robik is fucking terrible. Robik is scum
2. No interactions with Koshi--normally these two are absolutely fucking hilarious to play with
3. Not fun; little to no sarcasm, wit, or fun factor that makes Marv fun to play with
4. Wouldn't read me like he does. He'd be more scared to lynch into me (looking elsewhere first) and less sure on his read on me.
5. Marv wouldn't fear lynch on D1
6. Really fucking terrible list post.


@Artanis, Palmer and Doc. Look at Marv. He's not right. Doc get your head screwed on straight and actually think about the game critically. I'm pretty sure your read on Chyz is wrong.



Town:
Artanis[XP]--Not as active as I'd like. But I'm prettty sure he's town
DoctorHelvetica--Way off track
Palmar--First time he's read me wrong as town. lolz
TheChyz--He's just new. But he's town.
Damdred--He's town. But force him to post a bunch tomorrow because he notices some good things here and there
justanothertownie
sicklucker--I initially had him below this in the unsure pile. But I had a townread on him when I read him before I slept. Cursory view of his meta points towards town; that said, it's not wholly applicable because of different game situations imo.

Unsure but active pile:
batsnacks--of these two, bat is the most likely to be mafia.
KelsierSC--felt towny but i forget why

GTFO:
RebirthOfLeGenD
Superbia
Vivax
GlowingBear

Mafia lean:
Eden1892--Went ham but not fully ham. Then drops ham and never goes back to ham land. Really odd start.
ritoky -- He townread me at a weird point. His read on Robik was pretty weird. Marv wants to lynch him but doesn't really follow up on it.
Koshi --Could be wrong here

Mafia:
Marvellosity
IAmRobik
Lazermonkey--From a cursory view of his past 3-4 games


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 08:47 TheChyz wrote:
ya im done, this game has been such a mispleasure to play. Thanks dr.H, great game played by you. Best town player by far. You caught the scum. Here are my current notes btw.

koshi - too good at defending me and making no other good reads. hasnt really contributed anything to town. scummy
glowingbear - nada, not good sign
geript - null to scum. Started fine but I expected more. Not leading town like I remember.
Kinda just lurking but still in thread. Still nothing really. Expected more and his scum read on keslier is wtf?
Scummy
Artanis[XP] - somegood reads, some terrible ones. still making them and pushing them alright imo. towny.
lazermonkey - bandwagoned onto me. made garbage about other people. need actual reads and not garbage at this point in
the game. Tries to apologize, every post he makes makes him seem worse and worse. Tries to cover up his tracks.
scummy
marvellositty - apparently this great player but nada? something doesn't feel right. but terrible start can be excuse? slightly scummy
justanothertownie - bothers me with some posts but I can kinda feel his train of thought. leaning townny
Iamrobik - doesn't do anything but still in thread? weird. lazy. scummy
theChyz - SUPER TOWN
palmar - Keeps thread in good direction. If anything only look at day 3 since anything helping town (even if in wrong direction) is not worth a thought of lynching. town
damdred - nothing jumps out, feels way too much of doing nothing for my taste, null to slightly scummy
batsnacks - kinda weird play. posts sometimes good info, and then shit later. null
sicklucker - I don't really like any of his reads hes making and they all seem kinda out in left field. scummy-ish
vivax - don't like atm, not enough but just his posts are pretty off. scummy but weak at best
kelsierSC - seems to be steering the town whenever he talks, pretty clear train of thought. slightly town. I like him more now, just seems to keep towny vibe. town
ritoky - garbage opener, nothing since. garbage large post for no reason and terrible reads. scum
Dr.H - rode me hard but kinda like how I did when town. Town. Big d bag tho.
Eden1892 - nothing really sticks out too much, need to read closer, null. Also kinda just lurking around but does bring up good points every so ofter, towny.
RebirthOfLegend - nada, not good sign
Superbia - nada, not good sign

scum list if I had to pick:
-lazermonkey
-ritoky
-geript
-koshi
-a lurker/sicklucker/damdred

##Vote: TheChyz


sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 02 2015 21:37 GMT
#2374
On January 03 2015 06:33 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:31 sicklucker wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other.


wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats.



i mean sure but from my pov its unlikely everyone was town in a mislynch. There also trying to all bury me. Im still leaning town but not strong on eden artanis doc. I just completely recend my dandred read. That was a weak early read he has not really backed it up.


so me and palmar are no longer town now either?

why did robick and marv become town aswell?


Na your probably still town. But you do lose some points attacking an easy mislynch harder the anyone else. Palmer just completely fell off the world. I have no idea what he is anymore he spent the whole time blaming others and not helping find scum.

Im also less sure on gerit because if that mislynch wa stown driven then most likely both horses are town. And my main reason to town read palmer was his drive to kill him.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 21:38 GMT
#2375
Sickluckers train of thought from what i can tell:

1. Geript is scum because he martyred
2. Bats is scum because of edens post and because my townreads all agree
3. Both geript and bats are scum
4. Geript is scum for not saving himself
5. Geript might be town for not saving himself and martyring

Ten posts or so earlier you confidently tell people to get on a martyrs bandwagon then later you say all your day 1 reads are a wash anyway. Nah, i dont believe that
RIP Aaliyah
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2015 21:38 GMT
#2376
On January 03 2015 05:16 Koshi wrote:


Vivax



Lynch Robik and geript after that.

I had a good night of sleep.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 21:39 GMT
#2377
How on earth did bats flip make geript look fucking better. Insane conclusion
RIP Aaliyah
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 02 2015 21:39 GMT
#2378
Town leading a mislynch off of geript doesn't make geript more town. Can you use your brain before you post. Please and thank you
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 02 2015 21:39 GMT
#2379
On January 03 2015 06:37 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:31 sicklucker wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote:
Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other.


wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats.



i mean sure but from my pov its unlikely everyone was town in a mislynch. There also trying to all bury me. Im still leaning town but not strong on eden artanis doc. I just completely recend my dandred read. That was a weak early read he has not really backed it up.


so me and palmar are no longer town now either?

why did robick and marv become town aswell?


Na your probably still town. But you do lose some points attacking an easy mislynch harder the anyone else. Palmer just completely fell off the world. I have no idea what he is anymore he spent the whole time blaming others and not helping find scum.

Im also less sure on gerit because if that mislynch wa stown driven then most likely both horses are town. And my main reason to town read palmer was his drive to kill him.


If you think my cases against the late voters is unwarranted I would be glad to hear it.

But you also don't read any of those town reads as town anymore so clearly something struck home with you.

give me scum out of

robik,eden,dam




Zerg for Life
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 21:40 GMT
#2380
Geript doesnt need to vote to save himself all he has to do is uhhh have a teammate vote for bats right? In what world is that a reach
RIP Aaliyah
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