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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On January 03 2015 03:12 Vivax wrote: Threats like this don't work. You either think I'm scum and push me for that, and you said you agreed with Koshi previously, so this is even more odd for you to say. If I'm scum then you should lynch me anyway and not only when I point out the stuff in your filter. And the misrepresentation hasn't been explained, Kelsier. He turned the bats part from "having no reads" to "not pushing his reads". Learn to read ffs. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On January 03 2015 03:10 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe because then people say this and don't want to lynch him. Nono. This isn't a good thing. Why is Vivax opening your filter and trying to find scum? | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On January 03 2015 03:16 Koshi wrote: Nono. This isn't a good thing. Why is Vivax opening your filter and trying to find scum? How do I know? Maybe he doesn't like how everyone is townreading me. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
My initial premise is incorrect when I go over the other games. After some consideration I decided to throw out ffl2 for a couple of reasons, it was not normal for superbia in the sense that he replaced in during the night phase of d1 after batsnacks had gotten lynched for being unrememberable and a few other things (bats was scum here) and had a good many pages to catch up on. Rayn got killed during the night and robik and myself got mod killed (I was mafia) so super really did not have time to spam up the game in any way. In the newbie games and fanfic it was about the same length, mostly consisting on one liners and some insightful thoughts. Usually came out to 3 pages or so a day besides the 2nd newbie where he averaged 4 pages or so. Which is right in line with his town play but always put his thoughs out their from what i read. I did notice that even in the game i think isn't good for analysis amount of posts that super likes to bus a bit and make list posts that generally are scum reading all the team mates so if we lynch superbia at any point and he flips scum ritoky is a good place to look, but now isn't the time for associative reads. The other thing was that besides ffl2 the posting was about on the same pace as the town games but mostly going with the flow. Soon as super starts posting more I can determine better but I haven't seen in any games super play the lurky role. | ||
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justanothertownie
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
1) Sicklucker has a strong scum read on geript throughout most of day 1. Nothing original in the reads though. You can see in his filter most of it is just a geript is scum. He is scum for an early read on me etc. What is striking about SL's play is that he doesn't really want to find scum he just wants to clear people and get himself cleared. This strikes me as scummy play. On January 02 2015 07:28 sicklucker wrote: Id be cleared too hum... Think id be down with this hes my #2 atm anyway On January 02 2015 10:29 sicklucker wrote: Well when geript flips mafia (hes going too) Everyone can sheep palmer and artanis to their hearts content. Ill also be pretty confirmed and a few others maybe too. 2) SL has his only real scum read as geript. Most of the day that is his push. Then this. On January 02 2015 13:25 sicklucker wrote: Ok we can kill bats screw it. On January 02 2015 13:29 sicklucker wrote: I mean my 4 strongest town reads just voted bats. So ya im down ##vote bats I don't know all 4 of his strongest town. But giving up your only real read to just "screw it" and vote someone else. This just looks like a shitty reason to jump onto the bats wagon. 3) He town reads dam for like the dumbest reason I can think of. On December 31 2014 14:46 sicklucker wrote: No ive played as mafia with dandred and I dont think he has the balls to make a joke like that. This is really early in the game, I think even dam would admit he has no reason to be read town this game but SL is happy to give up his "top scum" read and follow dam because he made some joke start of d1? Again easy town read for no real reason and using this to justify jumping onto bats. 4) People may disagree with me here but SL has continuously overstated his importance in this game and tried to make his contribution seem more than it is. This is a scum tactic to me, false confidence and arrogance. On January 02 2015 09:00 sicklucker wrote: So like I had a really strong first 24 hours. Now im hungover and being bad so ignore me for today plz and stop scum reading me because you didnt read my first 24 hours. On January 02 2015 10:03 sicklucker wrote: Im the only one who brought this up free town read? On December 31 2014 17:27 sicklucker wrote: So ritoky im more townie then in a previous game why dont you come out and say im town rather then "I dont know what to make of it yet" Yeh | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
But yea, JAT is never getting lynched. He was the only person during the bats lynch that was getting cold feet in any way, he even mentioned it several times I think it was how people were coming from everywhere to vote bats. Bats play this game was really different from his town games lately I made a post about why I think it resembled his scum game and it really does. And at the end he wasn't really plaing he was dodging questions and all. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On January 03 2015 03:18 Damdred wrote: Ok i've went over the games of superbia, the two newbie games, fanfic and two mafia games ffl2 and 2p2. (And ate some yummy chinese) My initial premise is incorrect when I go over the other games. After some consideration I decided to throw out ffl2 for a couple of reasons, it was not normal for superbia in the sense that he replaced in during the night phase of d1 after batsnacks had gotten lynched for being unrememberable and a few other things (bats was scum here) and had a good many pages to catch up on. Rayn got killed during the night and robik and myself got mod killed (I was mafia) so super really did not have time to spam up the game in any way. In the newbie games and fanfic it was about the same length, mostly consisting on one liners and some insightful thoughts. Usually came out to 3 pages or so a day besides the 2nd newbie where he averaged 4 pages or so. Which is right in line with his town play but always put his thoughs out their from what i read. I did notice that even in the game i think isn't good for analysis amount of posts that super likes to bus a bit and make list posts that generally are scum reading all the team mates so if we lynch superbia at any point and he flips scum ritoky is a good place to look, but now isn't the time for associative reads. The other thing was that besides ffl2 the posting was about on the same pace as the town games but mostly going with the flow. Soon as super starts posting more I can determine better but I haven't seen in any games super play the lurky role. right... so whats the point? dam who are the scum who voted on bats | ||
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Vivax
22078 Posts
On January 02 2015 10:43 justanothertownie wrote: lol, no way am I voting for Chyz with this votecount On January 02 2015 10:45 justanothertownie wrote: [/blue][/b]My thoughts exactly. I voted geript for now. Still think batsnacks would also be a good lynch though. I mean, look at this post. Scumreads mentioned until here: Lazermonkey Ritoky (me by saying he could sheep Koshi) suspicious of bats Geript? On January 02 2015 05:45 justanothertownie wrote: I don't know. Geript might actually be town for acting like a complete donkey. Sifting back through the endless ocean of oneliners I come to this. Later after the votecount post, JAT votes geript. PoE, doesn't like the people on the Chyz wagon (me, batsnacks I suppose). His former scumread ritoky has 2 votes. Instead JAT votes geript, why? Cause he has most votes, why not move people onto ritoky, there was an option for that after all, geript doesn't really seem like his scumread up until that point. But whatever, he picks the popular wagon that isn't TheChyz. Then he starts pushing bats and actually posting reasons. As you see, the reasons are sometimes hyperbole. Like, going from "he has no scumreads" to criticizing how he handles his scumreads. All pretty...Over the top in my opinion. On January 02 2015 12:38 justanothertownie wrote: I am sort of here but you know how late it is right now. For batsnacks you have to look at meta. If he is town he is extremely brazen. He does not give a fuck about what people think of him and his reads. He attacks and pushes people doing traps and all that shit. As scum he just tries not to step on anyones toes and generally lacks any scumreads. A perfect example for this is FFL2 mafia. What I see this game is the latter. He defends Chyz and does nothing else. No scumreads, no traps, no crazy behaviour. On January 02 2015 12:43 justanothertownie wrote: Like batsnacks voted for Robik for awful and easy to give reasons and then Lazer at some point. I don't think his reads evolve in any way. Then bats shows up. JAT exchanges some words with him, and suddenly finds reasons to switch back to geript, but he doesn't. On January 02 2015 13:45 justanothertownie wrote: Huh? I thought marv was 100 % mafia? On January 02 2015 14:15 justanothertownie wrote: Sorry guys. I had already typed a geript vote in but I didn't hit send. We should probably have a closer look at the people who just came in to push this lynch really late in the day after not doing much earlier. Like Eden, damdred and SL. Good night. Now it's night, I post some stuff about Eden. Does JAT look at it? No, he starts telling people who blame the batsnacks voters to gtfo. Kinda a summary of stuff I found scummy about JAT now that I sifted through that ugly filter. Overall no clear motivation to get onto geript except that he was the main wagon. When he did that he had the chance to talk more about his former suspects LM and ritoky who were also minor candidates. When the geript wagon is rolling, he attacks GB at some point for his geript vote cause of the sudden change of mind, understandable, but displays he could also have been bothered by that additional geript vote. I just get this strong feeling JAT didn't really want to lynch geript and towards the end he played the remorse part for staying on bats when really, the reason he found that gave him another opportunity to switch back to geript right before EoD seemed important to him (why is he voting Vivax and not marv). | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
not fucking really dude. Think JAt called that shit out already. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On January 03 2015 03:30 KelsierSC wrote: right... so whats the point? dam who are the scum who voted on bats The point is that, I told Koshi (as I said before) that I was goin to check out superbias past games and try to find if this sort of lurking and sticking votes is alignment indicative because of a past experience I had in ffl2. And I posted the results I found and I was wrong. Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik These are the people who voted bats. I think that SL, Robik had the least amount of reasons to jump on bats. Some of the reasons that they posted were that they were sheeping basically. Eden and myself look the worst because we told everyone who was thinking about jumping to sit and wait for the flip. SL I think would be the scum there especially since he was the hammer vote I believe and even though he stated he wanted to hammer geript he didn't do it then sounded pretty smug after the flip. | ||
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Damdred
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
None of this makes any fucking sense. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 03 2015 03:40 Superbia wrote: What's up boys. You have ~60 hours to live. Make them count. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On January 03 2015 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote: You have ~60 hours to live. Make them count. Thanks for not putting kp on me.  | ||
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