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I have a 200 word essay due in 9 days so idk how active I can be... please ignore me if I am afk.
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##vote: The_Templar
The whole point of RNG is that once it's decided, it's decided.
On December 09 2014 08:06 The_Templar wrote:
We will RNG lynch that person unless they come up with a suitable defense.
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On December 09 2014 08:09 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote:##vote: The_TemplarThe whole point of RNG is that once it's decided, it's decided. On December 09 2014 08:06 The_Templar wrote:
We will RNG lynch that person unless they come up with a suitable defense.
That's silly. Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:06 The_Templar wrote:While not being a devout follower of religion, I am a member of the church of RNG. On December 08 2014 06:54 The_Templar wrote:On December 08 2014 06:53 GlowingBear wrote:On December 08 2014 06:15 Blazinghand wrote:
/out
/obs  ((( no RNG I will do the RNG for you don't worry There are 26 players. Therefore, I will take the post ID of this post and divide by 26, taking the remainder and finding that position on the player list (this would have worked really well because dividing by 25 is easy peasy, but then ninja bunnies somehow managed to add one to the number). We will RNG lynch that person unless they come up with a suitable defense. This post ID is 23413441. When divided by 26, I get a remainder of 25. That would be K3151545C. ##Vote: KelsierSC
If RNG is silly then why are you advocating it?
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On December 09 2014 09:21 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:06 Damdred wrote:
So what is your conclussion? Do you think 27nb is town still even though you understand where HF is coming from? Or are you leaning a different way now?
Also talk about 27nb list post some if you can.
What do you make of the froggy post and vivax? Damdred, once I read that, I've put her in scumpile for now. Froggy's post to me is a null, although that sentence is contradictory. I think he was trying to say that policy lynches are stupid in comparison to a scum lynch, and then he says "in the absence of a decent slip." Though poorly worded, I can still understand him and I believe he was the one who said before the game that he was returning here after 2 years ago or something, so I wouldn't blame him for saying that. I cannot comment on how things were 2 years ago as I wasn't around then. What I Vivax's post is also null to me. Again very straightforward, I don't see any reason to sort him either way.
After reading HF's post, froggy is null and nb, who said pretty much the same thing you just did, is scummy?
Nope.
Nope. Nope. Nope.
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On December 09 2014 09:26 Damdred wrote:GB just claimed scum
Maybe he's colorblind?
Oh wait vbcode actually says blue...
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HTS is looking awful
There is no way she:
1. agrees with HF
2. thinks froggy is null
3. thinks bunnies is scummy
4. agrees with what bunnies said
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On December 09 2014 09:35 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 09:31 batsnacks wrote:
HTS is looking awful
There is no way she:
1. agrees with HF
2. thinks froggy is null
3. thinks bunnies is scummy
4. agrees with what bunnies said This post is bad, bats is probably scum
What's bad about it damdred, that's actually what HTS believes?
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Damdred I went back and looked and it looks like HTS and vivax have similar stances. For reasons I'm having trouble explaining, I thought HTS was scummy and I thought vivax was null. Maybe it's how they explained it. Vivax was more explicit.
There's like 4 people I want to vote right now though.
And I originally voted NB for the useless bra discussion.
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On December 09 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.
The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend.
Agreeing with you and nb simultaneously about what froggy said is a contradiction, especially considering that what nb said about froggy was a contradiction in itself. I think HTS is scummy for that.
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HF can we do that thing this game where I'll tell you if I think you're flying off the rails?
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On December 09 2014 10:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 10:10 batsnacks wrote:On December 09 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.
The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend. Agreeing with you and nb simultaneously about what froggy said is a contradiction, especially considering that what nb said about froggy was a contradiction in itself. I think HTS is scummy for that. She doesn't agree with nb. Nb says thay people that talk about policy are scummy usually and then says that HE isn't scummy but instead an easy scum read to jump on (implying mislynch) and tries to stop that pressure which is 2 contradictory statements. She's contradictory. Hts just explains his posts meaning and says it's null but scum reads bunnies for what I said. Don't see how they are the same at all.
True that
##unvote
##vote: 27ninjabunnies
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I'm about 8 pages behind but
I think lightning is scummy. Last game he was mafia and blatantly sheeped me. He's doing the same thing with obiwan this game.
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On December 10 2014 00:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 00:28 batsnacks wrote:
I'm about 8 pages behind but
I think lightning is scummy. Last game he was mafia and blatantly sheeped me. He's doing the same thing with obiwan this game. I not sheeping anyone wtf I only asked OWS his thoughts and reads because he didn't post much of them yet but he said he will later. Whats wrong with me asking him a question?
Your post on SL was pretty much a verbatim copy of OWS' post.
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On December 10 2014 00:39 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 00:37 batsnacks wrote:On December 10 2014 00:30 LightningStrike wrote:On December 10 2014 00:28 batsnacks wrote:
I'm about 8 pages behind but
I think lightning is scummy. Last game he was mafia and blatantly sheeped me. He's doing the same thing with obiwan this game. I not sheeping anyone wtf I only asked OWS his thoughts and reads because he didn't post much of them yet but he said he will later. Whats wrong with me asking him a question? Your post on SL was pretty much a verbatim copy of OWS' post. Really because I didn't see OWS post on but I saw FF but it led me to think sicklucker wasn't being himself but turns out his gift claim was to bait people. I guess town sicklucker was being sneakier with this set up stuff that's all.
So you were copying FF, not OWS?
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On December 10 2014 00:44 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 00:41 batsnacks wrote:On December 10 2014 00:39 LightningStrike wrote:On December 10 2014 00:37 batsnacks wrote:On December 10 2014 00:30 LightningStrike wrote:On December 10 2014 00:28 batsnacks wrote:
I'm about 8 pages behind but
I think lightning is scummy. Last game he was mafia and blatantly sheeped me. He's doing the same thing with obiwan this game. I not sheeping anyone wtf I only asked OWS his thoughts and reads because he didn't post much of them yet but he said he will later. Whats wrong with me asking him a question? Your post on SL was pretty much a verbatim copy of OWS' post. Really because I didn't see OWS post on but I saw FF but it led me to think sicklucker wasn't being himself but turns out his gift claim was to bait people. I guess town sicklucker was being sneakier with this set up stuff that's all. So you were copying FF, not OWS? I wasn't copying FF I just got influenced by a post by FF on sicklucker not acting like himself and I decided to check it out that's all. I misread his Shenanigans this time that's all to it.
You were "influenced" by a lot of my posts last game when you were mafia. I've got my eye on you.
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This thread needs more list posts. I need consolidated info.
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I caught up. Time for a blind list post without reviewing anything:
No Lynch
Xatalos
Koshi
HF
Damdred
FF
SL
oats
Maybe lynch
kitaman27
rsoultin
kushm4sta
slam
OWS
The_Templar
liancourt
ritoky
GlowingBear
LoneMeow
Tubesock
LS
Lynch
27nb
HTS
kelsier
vivax
froggynoddy
trfel
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@ritoky I'm pretty sure someone asked FF for reads on those specific people.
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On December 10 2014 08:33 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 08:25 batsnacks wrote:
I caught up. Time for a blind list post without reviewing anything:
Lynch
vivax
Why?
The only thing I remember about him is that his posts are all about the same length with about the same formatting. I don't actually remember what any of his posts said. Someone actually had to point out to me earlier that vivax and HTS had similar thoughts on froggy.
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On December 10 2014 08:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Hey I'm here to interact. Gonna read the game later today.
Who's here to talk?
Hi gb you said I was scummy but I didn't care.
Should I?
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On December 10 2014 08:35 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:
@ritoky I'm pretty sure someone asked FF for reads on those specific people. oh i guess kita did, missed that; doesn't change that i think the reads are crap lol.
Maybe you could add to your case that FF responding to kitaman in the way he did is not consistent with his "idgaf" attitude toward others. If FF doesn't have strong reads, wouldn't it be more consistent of him to just say "fuck off" rather than spending so much time writing weak reads?
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On December 10 2014 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 08:43 batsnacks wrote:On December 10 2014 08:35 ritoky wrote:On December 10 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:
@ritoky I'm pretty sure someone asked FF for reads on those specific people. oh i guess kita did, missed that; doesn't change that i think the reads are crap lol. Maybe you could add to your case that FF responding to kitaman in the way he did is not consistent with his "idgaf" attitude toward others. If FF doesn't have strong reads, wouldn't it be more consistent of him to just say "fuck off" rather than spending so much time writing weak reads? you and damdred told me to play. Show nested quote +On December 05 2014 08:58 GlowingBear wrote:
We need FF to join to have a full lurker game, including the host
You were on my no lynch list FF. This is more about ritoky for me.
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On December 10 2014 08:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Right so i asked hf to explain how you made a contradiction, he explained it well. I got a town read off him.
I'm curious that you call my play "one liners "
considering all my reads have been well explained. Is there a read i didn't explain enough for you.
you said something like "he needs to learn how to read me" that is really scummy, how have you projected town, what have you done that allows him to read you perfectly. . It strikes me as fake indignation that anyone can find you scum
There's like 9 people voting her. It would appear that more than just koshi needs to learn to read her if she's town.
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On December 10 2014 08:49 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 08:43 batsnacks wrote:On December 10 2014 08:35 ritoky wrote:On December 10 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:
@ritoky I'm pretty sure someone asked FF for reads on those specific people. oh i guess kita did, missed that; doesn't change that i think the reads are crap lol. Maybe you could add to your case that FF responding to kitaman in the way he did is not consistent with his "idgaf" attitude toward others. If FF doesn't have strong reads, wouldn't it be more consistent of him to just say "fuck off" rather than spending so much time writing weak reads? i think it's more townie of him to respond directly to kita. why he takes kita seriously and not me is a good question. the quality of his reads is bad and i don't like them in the slightest so that is scummy. and the fact that he devoted so much time to null reads on people when he can't muster his strong reads anywhere else leans scummy to me as well. so overall it nets out as scum leaning to me which just reinforced my feelings. why he is on your no-lynch section is beyond me, i would like justification
That first sentence contradicts the rest of the sentences I think. Why is it more townie of him to respond directly to kita and not to you again?
I put FF on my no lynch list because I remember pretty much all his posts and I think the less memorable people are better to focus on right now.
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On December 10 2014 08:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 08:52 KelsierSC wrote:
So rather than convince us your town, as you said is what you have to-do, you aren't going to bother and just "claim" right now, good job No I'm gonna try and convince yall I'm town, but it seems as if no one is listening to me anyway, so I might just have to claim. What did you think about my read on Vivax? More specifically, what is your read? Also, you mentioned earlier in the game about a read on Slam. You found it stupid there were people calling him town. What is your read on him as of this page?
This "claim" stuff is garbage. You've already pretty much claimed a role just by saying it twice now and you haven't even tried to convince people.
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On December 10 2014 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Defense of CHUPAZI!!
Why not lynch LS kusplain me this
On December 09 2014 22:31 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 22:15 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:On December 09 2014 16:23 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got back and here my current reads
Town: HF,Templar, OWS, Slam, Damdred, rsoultin, FF
Null: 27ninja, HTS, Ritoky
Scum: sicklucker
sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early
I need more posts from 27ninja and Ritoky to confirm which side they on
HTS doesn't seem like himself idk why I feel like that.
As soon more people post in the game I will make more reads to add the people. I am really interested in that read in particular. Please explain it. Also, don't really like how you devote 0 space to your town reads and all of your space to null and scum reads. What's even stranger is that one of your town reads voted on another of your town reads right here: On December 09 2014 12:37 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 12:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory Oh my. ##vote ObiWanShinobiOh crap. As in that post was complete crap.  and your response to it? you were here and actively responding to the thread and you tell him where to vote properly? why didn't you ask further into why he is reading him that way? especially when you have the OPPOSITE read for unexplained reasons. this just looks kinda fishy....i smell something funky brewing here boyz. your sicklucker read is on a guy who claimed his role and you didn't really state why you disbelieve his claim, then you waste time talking about null reads, then you give a bunch of unexplained town reads; many of which i am completely unclear on. i really am not liking this guy. OWS behavior is very similar to the game he was town when I was playing him on Campus Mafia when he had to replace someone. I wasn't aiming the 2nd question at anyone particular as I seen people trying to vote in this thread instead of the voting thread that was all. sicklucker been posting a lot more fluff than any games I played with him and he normally do some funky shenanigans to force people to make early reads awkward at best. Also I looked at your town games FF and we played on Campus as town together that why I got a town read on you. LS, bud, you're gonna make me push you again. Why you reading other games and not this thread? Plug in or butt out. I been reading this game and other games because like half the people I not played with before and also I am town this game I will role claim if I have to.
(Campus Mafia)
On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help.
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On December 10 2014 09:10 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 09:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 10 2014 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Defense of CHUPAZI!!
Why not lynch LS kusplain me this On December 09 2014 22:31 LightningStrike wrote:On December 09 2014 22:15 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:On December 09 2014 16:23 ritoky wrote:On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got back and here my current reads
Town: HF,Templar, OWS, Slam, Damdred, rsoultin, FF
Null: 27ninja, HTS, Ritoky
Scum: sicklucker
sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early
I need more posts from 27ninja and Ritoky to confirm which side they on
HTS doesn't seem like himself idk why I feel like that.
As soon more people post in the game I will make more reads to add the people. I am really interested in that read in particular. Please explain it. Also, don't really like how you devote 0 space to your town reads and all of your space to null and scum reads. What's even stranger is that one of your town reads voted on another of your town reads right here: On December 09 2014 12:37 rsoultin wrote:On December 09 2014 12:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory Oh my. ##vote ObiWanShinobiOh crap. As in that post was complete crap. and your response to it? you were here and actively responding to the thread and you tell him where to vote properly? why didn't you ask further into why he is reading him that way? especially when you have the OPPOSITE read for unexplained reasons. this just looks kinda fishy....i smell something funky brewing here boyz. your sicklucker read is on a guy who claimed his role and you didn't really state why you disbelieve his claim, then you waste time talking about null reads, then you give a bunch of unexplained town reads; many of which i am completely unclear on. i really am not liking this guy. OWS behavior is very similar to the game he was town when I was playing him on Campus Mafia when he had to replace someone. I wasn't aiming the 2nd question at anyone particular as I seen people trying to vote in this thread instead of the voting thread that was all. sicklucker been posting a lot more fluff than any games I played with him and he normally do some funky shenanigans to force people to make early reads awkward at best. Also I looked at your town games FF and we played on Campus as town together that why I got a town read on you. LS, bud, you're gonna make me push you again. Why you reading other games and not this thread? Plug in or butt out. I been reading this game and other games because like half the people I not played with before and also I am town this game I will role claim if I have to. (Campus Mafia) On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help. See I did this to a minor extent; I did scummy shit as power roles and got pissitude and got a free pass for a few games Not gonna work read his filter and tell me he is town
you /= LS
Also, yeah, nb didn't actually claim mason. She's still just posting random crap. So far we've got dates, bras, boobs, funerals, choirs, what will be next?
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On December 10 2014 09:27 Half the Sky wrote:
FF: Looked through your reads and I think you are overseeing why Rasputin has made the points he has on people. You have to also consider why people aren't fighting back. Bats was called out by multiple people, not just Rasputin. As for his push on OWS, he's not posted anything coherent, mostly random things, which is similar to why you had cited Liancourt: random posting. So if you are consistent, there should be nothing wrong with Rasputin pushing OWS.
And regarding meta being anti-town or pro-town, I don't think meta itself is the problem but rather the interpretation of someone else's meta people don't trust. Rasputin is not the only one who disregards meta, LoneMeow has told a few people to disregard meta in their arguments. On the other side of the fence, you have Damdred, LS, etc, using meta to justify some of their arguments. I don't think the use of meta is necessarily alignment indicative, as I've seen it in Student Mafia being used and mis-used for and against people.
I didn't push on OWS, I pushed on LS for blatantly sheeping one of OWS' posts. See here:
(THIS IS OWS POST)
On December 09 2014 11:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 11:30 Damdred wrote:On December 09 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Would lynch sicklucker. Who else would go to the flaming tree of death this day Nobody, really. Just sicklucker. I just don't get the feeling that he's the same kind of over-the-top contributor he is as town. The last game I played with him, his desire to contribute was so unbelievably strong that he wound up posting a ton of shit that incriminated himself for the sake of trying to help town. Instead, we get this game, where he decides to talk about nonsense and fluff in a game centered around posting restrictions. He's posting just to post, when his modus operandi as town is to contribute until his heart stops. Normally he's incredibly productive and comes up with tons of fresh ideas and perspective. I'm not getting any of that here. Do not like.
(LS POSTS)
On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Scum: sicklucker
sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early
On December 09 2014 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker been posting a lot more fluff than any games I played with him and he normally do some funky shenanigans to force people to make early reads awkward at best.
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.
On December 09 2014 22:39 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 22:37 Xatalos wrote:On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now? Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads Didn't you think anything of sicklucker's claim? I did but it doesn't make sense though the way he acting though and when I played with him he was Vanilla town in the games I played with him when he had these weird shenanigans but I not seeing this game. This doesn't seem be the sicklucker I know.
On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.
Last game LS was mafia he blatantly, as in almost word for word, sheeped me on several things I said. This reminded me of that.
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On December 10 2014 08:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
But it looks like I might have to claim just to stay alive. Meh.
Town power role or weird softclaim? How does softing like the ever help town? Either explicitly claim or don't say anything at all.
On December 10 2014 08:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:my college choir singing Christmas Music. This is us singing Carol of the Bells
Weird softclaim or just bunnies posting more irrelevant crap?
On December 10 2014 09:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:I didn't.
Looks like the weird softclaim was just more irrelevant crap.
On December 11 2014 05:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Im just a mere disgruntled christmas worker
Why post the stuff above this then?
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On December 11 2014 06:16 froggynoddy wrote:
Though I disagree with sicklucker's conclusions, I don't think that makes him mafia. If he is mafia he gains nothing by attacking you as you are about to be lynched with or without his contributions it seems, in fact if you do flip town it would be a pretty dumb play from his part.
SL's conclusions are literally the only logical conclusions.
Why would town ever unvote bunnies now after the MULTIPLE weird softs earlier?
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On December 11 2014 06:20 27ninjabunnies wrote:Well if you people knew how to read, youd realize I said id have to claim AFTER i posted the video. The video came first, then me saying i might have to claim came moments after. Also...srsly.... Did everyone miss this? Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 12:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 10 2014 11:49 kitaman27 wrote:On December 10 2014 11:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can you guys stop calling me mafia because I work during the day?
I mean really. ^ Found one Disgruntled Christmas Worker + Show Spoiler +Spoiler alert ![[image loading]](http://www.whatsupmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Dwight-Schrute-meme-11.jpg)
You softed a town power role twice.
Why does when you did it matter?
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On December 11 2014 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 06:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 11 2014 06:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is that really a soft too?
Is there a role you didn't softclaim? MY VIDEO WASNT A FUCKING SOFT QUIT READING INTO THINGS THAT ARENT EVEN FUCKING THERE. seriously He's paranoid it's normal for him
How is the picture a soft if the video isn't?
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On December 11 2014 06:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 06:23 batsnacks wrote:On December 11 2014 06:20 27ninjabunnies wrote:Well if you people knew how to read, youd realize I said id have to claim AFTER i posted the video. The video came first, then me saying i might have to claim came moments after. Also...srsly.... Did everyone miss this? On December 10 2014 12:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 10 2014 11:49 kitaman27 wrote:On December 10 2014 11:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can you guys stop calling me mafia because I work during the day?
I mean really. ^ Found one Disgruntled Christmas Worker + Show Spoiler +Spoiler alert You softed a town power role twice. Why does when you did it matter? If this is how yall play this game, town is gonna completely be fucked over by mafia. Ithe. Video. wasnt. A. Fucking. Soft.
You think this is my fault? Maybe instead of softing you should actually explicitly say what you mean and not post so much crap?
Then maybe this wouldn't happen?
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On December 11 2014 06:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, theres nothing wrong with having fun.
If I want to post random crap i can.
This isn't your facebook. We're trying to play a game that involves scrutinizing the things you post. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with having fun or being silly, but the things you post are going to get judged.
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On December 11 2014 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 06:26 batsnacks wrote:On December 11 2014 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 11 2014 06:22 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 11 2014 06:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is that really a soft too?
Is there a role you didn't softclaim? MY VIDEO WASNT A FUCKING SOFT QUIT READING INTO THINGS THAT ARENT EVEN FUCKING THERE. seriously He's paranoid it's normal for him How is the picture a soft if the video isn't? Read the context when the video was posted 
There wasn't any context. She just posted a video allegedly for no reason. People were confused and thought there was a reason, considering it was a video of a Christmas choir singing Christmas carols, but people were wrong. No context. No reason for posting the video. It was posted as is.
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Also first you said this:
On December 10 2014 08:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
But it looks like I might have to claim just to stay alive. Meh.
Which is definitely not the same thing as this:
On December 11 2014 06:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Maybe I wanted mafia to think I was some kind of important role and take a bullet.
You weren't trying to trick mafia. You were leading in votes. You were threatening people who were voting for you.
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On December 11 2014 06:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
So can everyone who keeps saying they're going to read me shit or get off the pot? I swear I've been on everyone's 'to read' list for the whole day.
You could post about this:
On December 10 2014 18:21 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 14:49 Fecalfeast wrote:Can I get a cliffnotes on the xatalos read? This is my post 58 so unless you all start voting me I'm gonna lurk  I could lynch this guy. First posts a large amount of mostly oneliners that aren't pertinent to finding scum, then says he's near the post limit so he's going to lurk. So anti town. There's also this: Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 08:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Also, to waste another post because I think in such fragments, I think this makes 27NB town because the other carol singers (WHO SHOULD NOT CLAIM UNLESS THEY KNOW 27NB IS LYING) can out her at any point since they know who the other masons carol singers are.
##unvote Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 10 2014 09:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 10 2014 09:05 liancourt wrote:
where did ninja claim mason I didn't. Oh, ok. I'm a dum dum He dropped his scum read (which I assume was his strongest, given where his vote was) due to the "claim" but didn't reasses the situation in any way once the "claim" was explained to be a misunderstanding. Not what I would expect from a town player in that situation. ##Vote: Fecalfeast
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This was Trfel when he was town:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 26 2014 08:02 Trfel wrote:I'm becoming highly suspicious of batsnacks. Looking at batsnacks' posts this game, it does seem like he hasn't contributed many reads or constructive comments at all. He has pressure voted kushm4sta, and tried to convince other people to vote for kushm4sta, as shown: Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 10:27 batsnacks wrote:
I think you should all start voting kush since that's the most logical vote right now. Then Oatsmaster starts hinting that he might be mafia, and he responds as follows: Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 12:25 batsnacks wrote:On November 25 2014 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
He has bad posts regarding a read ohf HTS, his policy lynch on kush is really bad and he is using that to avoid playing the game and doing actual useful things. This isn't a read. None of oats' posts contain reads. oats is play is like 80% asking questions that have already been answered and 20% badgering the host about issues he could fix himself. If my plynch on kush is bad give me something better. I've seen oats play a lot better than he is doing right now. He just starts attacking Oatsmaster, without actually providing any argument against the accsusations. It's been nearly 24 hours and I cannot find any critical thinking or logical reads from batsnacks. He has been only minimally probing for information, as well. Now, examining batsnacks' mafia history, it seems to show similar, non-accusatory play as mafia, but an ability to logically provide arguments against people as town. In Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2, his most recent mafia game, batsnacks was a mafia vanilla. His posts generally seem to lack content, for example this: Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 16:57 batsnacks wrote:On October 23 2014 16:50 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2014 14:24 Alakaslam wrote:Fi te me You k now it is time Exact same amount of letter swapping sson I only had to swap 2 letters, the A and the I. You have to swap 3, the N, O, and W. Plus you have an extra letter that doesn't even belong there. Looks like I'm right about you. You're clearly reaching here. batsnacks did give some analysis in saying that robik seemed to be town in that game, which ended up being correct. But he failed to provide specifics or any real evidence of this: Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:
I think robik looks pretty solid. I like how he's posting; he's focused, not all caps, consolidated, no personal dramas, that stuff is what reminds me of hard to get along with robik. @DrParnassus what about robik this game seem hard to cooperate with? Could you quote an example? You did say -everything about the way he's playing- reminds you of that. He also defends Liam from an accusation. Up to now, the only two real things he's said are claiming these two people to be town. At this point he is accused of being mafia, and this is his defense: Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 21:41 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm not a good lynch right now. For obvious reasons. He continues to not provide any true defense or explanation for his actions, and ends up being lynched on the first day. In his mafia game before that, Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini, batsnacks is a town vanilla. Show nested quote +On October 06 2014 23:34 batsnacks wrote:On October 06 2014 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 06 2014 23:26 batsnacks wrote:
Oats if you are in fact "contributing" shouldn't you be thanking me? I did enable these "contributions" of yours. I feel like you're annoyed with me for allowing you to contribute.
Or are you annoyed with being in the spotlight this early? You dont get to claim credit for something that happened accidentally. What are your reads, mainly holyflare and me? I agreed with HF a lot last game and he was town. I'm agreeing with him this game already so, tentatively town. I'm voting you because I think you're scummy. Also lol at "accidentally" You claimed on accident now? batsnacks accuses Oatsmaster of being mafia in this game (which ends up being incorrect). But when he defends someone as being town, he provides some support for this claim, and also shares his views a bit. Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 08:07 batsnacks wrote:Wait a minute, something isn't right. I quoted all of the following from the same post. On October 07 2014 02:35 Blazinghand wrote:
...there's roughly speaking 13 players, right? If 3 are scum, then that gives us a solid 22% chance of lynching scum purely based on RNG.
No townie in this game knows the ratio of town to mafia, so it is correct here that BH gives us an example ratio of 10/3 or 22% as an example. But then later in that post he says this: On October 07 2014 02:35 Blazinghand wrote:
...the fact of the matter is, I'm offering a straight-up 22% chance to lynch someone. BH how do you KNOW there are exactly 3 mafia? I bolded fact because that's a serious word to throw around when you're supposedly working with estimates. Here's a critical analysis of a post in that game. It doesn't result in anything, but this post has more logic and scum-searching than his play to this point in the current game, as well as his play in the first game I mentioned, where he was mafia. Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 02:24 batsnacks wrote:On October 08 2014 02:22 Hopeless1der wrote:You had one job batsnacks. + Show Spoiler +and then HF gave you another one. Does it make you nervous that I've already figured out you're mafia? Then he claims Hopeless1der to be mafia, which ends up being correct. I don't see any reasoning listed, though. This post also came after the first 24 hours of the game, unlike all of the other posts quoted here. I did notice this inconsistency between his post in this game: Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 10:58 batsnacks wrote:There is no such thing as scum slips, so no, dude didn't scum slip. and this: Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 08:29 batsnacks wrote:On October 07 2014 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
You're implying that at the start of the post BH was careful not to slip that he had knowledge of the setup. (by pointing out that the number of scum is unknown) and then *slipped* that he was 100% sure there were 3 mafia within like 10 seconds of typing which is really unrealistic.
What I see is BH working off the assumption that random lynch provides at least 22% chance of hitting mafia compared to day 1 analysis which varies (and BH thinks is worse for catching mafia) I think it's feasible that he slipped. besides The TL mafia database disagrees that random lynch is better. So by random lynching we 1) have worse odds of lynching mafia and 2) players who agree with the random lynch have zero accountability for their votes. Why the change? Probably just a change in his playstyle, but another explanation is that he is searching for mafia in that game, and has less incentive to do so in this game. Looking at batsnacks' play in the game preceding the above game, 2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er, batsnacks immediately comes up with a comprehensive look at GlowingBear: Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:14 batsnacks wrote:I'm not completely caught up yet but I still think GB is mafiawolf. On September 25 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:I think Storr is mafia because of this: This post stinks: On September 25 2014 09:20 StorrZerg wrote:(1) i'd lynch fecal for the donkey entrance to the game. the overly troll attitude fecal has with the caps locks, and insta vote on holy is really throwing off scum vibes. Deff would lynch. On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.
Lol I actually like your case holyflare "yeah right" Also i don't like the GB entrance to the game On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now (2)unless im missing a game he just played, last game he was scum. seems odd to lead with a lie. (1) very has reason to call someone definetely scum. I did that no geript last game. There is nothing alignment indicative in fecal's entrance and that makes storr look bad. (2) storr was scum with me and I clearly stated on the qt that I wanted to be town. I was mafia for 3 games and I wish I was town on this, which I am. I never lied. The way he is disliking entrances looks like he is trying to pretend to be an aggressive town. Also, he gives Haru free town pass for his entrance and also obiwan. None has alignment indicative posts. On September 25 2014 10:11 StorrZerg wrote:
obi probably town too. I'm on a phone and I'm too lazy to search for the town pass on Haru now. storr is my strongest scum read the moment Here's his case on storr. He says storr is pretending to be aggressive town by disliking entrances. That is a weird thing to say. How can GB tell the difference between someone who is pretending to be aggressive town and someone who actually is aggressive town based on so few posts? Imo he can't and is just making stuff up. He also scum reads storr for saying someone is "definitely" mafia and says he said the exact same thing as scum last game. Well, look at this: On September 25 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Naaaah. I'm positive storr is scum.
##Vote: Storr He did it again this game. I also think this post is scummy: On September 25 2014 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.
I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work) Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information? Lol... HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me. Because it's easy, as scum, to pick on a tiny problem to bus a partner then drop the read. That is so incredibly shallow. Unless I have found surefire scum tomorrow, I'm voting you just based off this interaction. btw, fecalfeast is behaving pretty similar to last game imo. No reason to hate on him just yet. Palmar seems to have gotten upset that no one uses the voting thread to follow his policy and has taken up a silent protest. Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK. I'm gone for now, see you all later. It can be shallow, but at least I'm the only one trying to get people talking. Nothing is in the way of updating my reads the more people starts to talk. If you lynch me, you'll be lynching a townie for stupid reasons and you'll soon lose the game as much as you lost our last one The "at least" in that sentence is really scummy to me. It's a tone thing. It's like he's really saying "I'm mafia but at least I'm the only one trying to get people talking." It's also scummy how he says he's the -only- person getting people talking. GB made a case against HF earlier for dropping his case against HaruRH. I'm not a mind reader but I think HF made that case to get people talking. So GB is scum reading HF for trying to get people talking -- while saying he, GB, is the only contributor in the thread. I also think this post is scummy: On September 25 2014 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok
Glowningbear's first scum team guess: Haru, HF, Storr
Gonna have dinner and give reasons GB is referring to himself in the third person here in order to distance himself from his reads that he doesn't actually believe in. How can he be confident he's caught the whole scum team and solved the game? Later when he's drunk he posts this: On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote:
My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia So now GB has found 4 mafia... HF is mafia for getting people talking with an early case, Haru is mafia for unflipped assosiations, storr is mafia because GB can tell somehow that storr is just pretending to be aggressive town, and JAT is mafia because ???
Speaking of reads, GB is frantic this game about "getting reads." He is addicted to reads and needs an intervention. He wants to convince us so badly that he is trying to get reads that he can not stop saying it: On September 25 2014 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
It won't help me getting reads if you use day1 just to charge your solar beam.
On September 25 2014 09:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Asking about holyflare's case to everyone is my way to get people talking and getting reads from them.
On September 25 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Why I think Haru is scum:
He doesn't want to talk much, not letting me getting reads:
On September 25 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Why not talking? He should be helping us with reads day1.
On September 25 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm done with the reads. I'm going to get ready for a party.
On September 25 2014 11:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Because I want people talking about people so I can get reads.
On September 25 2014 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Nothing is in the way of updating my reads the more people starts to talk. On September 26 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Sorry, I'm guilty of getting people to talk to get my reads instead of immediately attacking both HF and hope.
On September 26 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
I think that is good to register and to get reads.
On September 26 2014 00:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Gut feelings VS actual reads. Actual reads won.
On September 26 2014 00:49 GlowingBear wrote:
It could be totally wrong but at least I would get people talking more so I can have more reads
He's clearly thinking and investigating the posts, and trying to find the scum. Then he starts thinking that SkyDragon is scum: Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:18 batsnacks wrote:Also this post is really scummy: On September 26 2014 01:07 SkyDragon wrote:On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK. "His" is correct. :p d1 claimers got lynched depending on what they were saying. - If they claimed to be Town with nothing to back it up, they were seen as suspicious and people would vote to lynch them if their play-style doesn't match. - Throwing out names on the first day was seen as suspicious. - Feigning ignorance of a particular role was suspicious unless he weren't very bright in the first place (As one guy did when he asked the Mod in the thread whether getting no pm means that you're a Villager - We straight away knew that he was trying it, lynched him and he turned out to be Mafia) - Changing votes repeatedly was seen as suspicious. - Normally active players who become quiet were seen as suspicious. There's no one answer to fit all situations really. There were also power roles so someone may have been saying something considered "weird" because they were the Seer, Doctor, Vigi or some other good role (And the last thing you want to do is get them lynched). There would be some hesitation to vote to lynch anyone on Day 1 but sometimes something is said that just doesn't feel right to several people. It's a long post filled with info that makes zero conclusions about anything. Perfect mafia post. If I'm not voting GB today I'm voting skydragon. He continues to press on GlowingBear and SkyDragon. Both end up being town, but batsnacks is showing that he is capable and willing to attempt to find scum and provide logical accusations that other players are scum. In conclusion, batsnacks seems very suspcious because he has not yet provided any real content, particularly at least one accusation of someone being mafia with an argument behind it. This resembles his play in his last game, where he was mafia, and contrasts with his play in previous games where he was town. What do you guys think?
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On December 11 2014 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
bats you're supposed to be stopping me from policying people?
If we're policying someone I missed it.
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On December 11 2014 07:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 07:13 batsnacks wrote:On December 11 2014 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
bats you're supposed to be stopping me from policying people? If we're policying someone I missed it. so you're just quoting his town game because of what...? it's 45 mins to deadline and he pops up before it and you start posting something that seemingly is "opposite" to what he just did. One can only assume you meant to do that to get him lynched/policy?
I'm happy with my vote where it is. Switching to Trfel would be nonsense right now. I'm just pointing out a discrepancy between his one town game on this site and this game.
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If kush is scum then ritoky is scum too:
ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies, kushm4sta, Fecalfeast
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On December 11 2014 07:30 sicklucker wrote:
I just dont see the mafia motivation. The real scrooge is never going to cc. Hes either trying to take attention from the real scrooge or being a dolt hes town.
Don't think too hard about it you'll hurt yourself. Remember Campus Mafia when he solo-voted sentinel?
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Free town reads for anyone who posts a list post.
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Shoot kush. The reward (2 dead scum) by far outweighs the risk.
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On December 11 2014 08:18 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 08:16 batsnacks wrote:
Shoot kush. The reward (2 dead scum) by far outweighs the risk. ?
On December 11 2014 07:30 batsnacks wrote:
If kush is scum then ritoky is scum too:
ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies, kushm4sta, Fecalfeast
This is what kush does as mafia.
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On December 11 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote:
Oh. Hahaha. I think you mentioned that he voted for his scum teammate once. Has he done that more than once?
He buses his team d1 as mafia in every game I can remember. If kush is mafia I would bet the game that ritoky is too.
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On December 11 2014 08:22 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 08:21 batsnacks wrote:On December 11 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote:
Oh. Hahaha. I think you mentioned that he voted for his scum teammate once. Has he done that more than once? He buses his team d1 as mafia in every game I can remember. If kush is mafia I would bet the game that ritoky is too. Hm. Well, that's not impossible I guess.
I think it's extremely likely unless you have evidence that suggests otherwise.
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On December 11 2014 11:13 ritoky wrote:
HF can you start getting salty so i can read you as town already? you're doing town things, but you're not angry at idiots for lynching town....why?
"you're doing town things"
but you don't town read him for doing those things?
Also he voted nb why would he be angry?
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On December 11 2014 11:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2014 11:45 ritoky wrote:On December 11 2014 11:40 Holyflare wrote:On December 11 2014 11:13 ritoky wrote:
HF can you start getting salty so i can read you as town already? you're doing town things, but you're not angry at idiots for lynching town....why? you're telling me I should berate people for.... listening to me!? what the shit are you even talking about you do that a lot...lol. especially when people listen to you for bad reasons and when you got people like koshi saying they are okay with it and rsoultin saying i told you so and kels pre-emptively saying i told you so. stop wasting my posts with insignificant bs I have like 7 left, I literally just said kelsier is very likely mafia for talking about all that crap pre-lynch and I'm not going to berate other people who have the same reads as me because that means they are likely town. I'm confused why you even have this read when you literally just expressed how I "fooled" you last game which means this salty read is clearly not a proper read at all if I can emulate it as both alignments, not to mention you said I've been doing towny things and somehow that's pushed under the rug I also said I was extremely sick and wouldn't be here post-deadline but here I am. you are mafia
I found him first.
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On December 12 2014 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Actually he juggled a bit with his other scumreads, as in stuff like "shoot ritoky", then we lynch kush. But at least it's clear 27nb was his main focus.
I'll hold back judgement on this one as I want to have more time for Koshi.
I said shoot kush and if kush is mafia then so is ritoky.
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SL you seem to have a better idea of what mafia is doing and why than I do.
I'm town.
If you're town why do you know so much more than I do?
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I wonder if this game is like AT&T and the posts we haven't used yet rollover to the next day.
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On December 12 2014 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Trfel (lol I should probably be putting him under NULL)
On December 12 2014 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:kushm4sta- Congrats you can get away with doing absolutely nothing on day one. Why are you wasting our time by taking up a slot in this game? Do you get a thrill out of being mildly annoying to everyone else? I think you'd make a perfect house fly.
wot
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Kush
Ritoky
HF
probable scum team. Posting for cred.
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On December 12 2014 08:16 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
Kush
Ritoky
HF
probable scum team. Posting for cred. Kush flipped Scrooge...
WELL THAT MEANS I saw the red and got a little too excited
##unvote
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I hate you all
##vote: Half the Sky
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On December 13 2014 03:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 03:08 batsnacks wrote:
I hate you all
##vote: Half the Sky Okay explain why you voting HTS?
Do you -really- think she read those filters you quoted? As if there isn't already enough shit to read in this game already.
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HTS is mafia. Ritoky isn't.
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Guys I've actually read the thread and all the "reads" I have feel like junk. It is intensely frustrating reading 15 pages of stuff and not a walking away with any fresh insights other than "this guy scum slipped" or "god damn this push makes no sense how are people so passionate about this."
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I think HF is mafia though
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Vivax vote Trfel with me?
Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force.
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On December 13 2014 13:08 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 12:32 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax vote Trfel with me?
Or maybe rsoultin. He has a stick up his ass this game. He was a lot calmer last game. I've never seen anyone engage me as calmly as he did in Student Mafia and I was out in full force. Lol, I think you called me a stubborn, ignorant ass, actually. But maybe I was a calm stubborn ignorant ass? (Not sure where the not calm comment is coming from, though.) Also think Oats called me something like depressive and...another word that means an asshole, I can't remember. It's not really that unusual for me to take a strong stance on something or someone. I think anyone from my last game would corroborate that. Regardless of meta reads... You never did tell me your case on HF bats.
I don't need a case to think he's mafia. I need a case to convince you he's mafia.
I have the former, not the latter.
capisce?
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Vivax vote Trfel or no?
Exactly how much of his play in Student Mafia was copy-pasting stuff you wrote? Because Trfel this game is -nothing- like Trfel that game.
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@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about.
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On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say?
I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone.
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On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh
I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did.
If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth.
I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material.
I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia.
I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something.
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On December 13 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did. If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth. I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material. I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia. I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something. Well this post actually makes me happy for a change. Kinda was thinking about the trfel thing too because of how he's been defending ff.
WELL it makes me supremely unhappy because all of my scum reads are completely out of the spotlight, and they're not even that strong.
Like, ritoky claiming present is suboptimal, but I can't vote him after how he defended himself.
GB I don't even think is being that bad.
FF... maybe he's mafia? How does anyone know he's not just apathetic? I am... why wouldn't he be?
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On December 13 2014 14:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did. If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth. I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material. I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia. I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something. Well this post actually makes me happy for a change. Kinda was thinking about the trfel thing too because of how he's been defending ff. WELL it makes me supremely unhappy because all of my scum reads are completely out of the spotlight, and they're not even that strong. Like, ritoky claiming present is suboptimal, but I can't vote him after how he defended himself. GB I don't even think is being that bad. FF... maybe he's mafia? How does anyone know he's not just apathetic? I am... why wouldn't he be? I do have the same feeling of just not giving a shit about half the time this game but I still remember at least what I've been thinking. Lonemeow's point about ff forgetting his scum read on bunnies entirely is great and shows he's just not thinking about anything and vivax's point about him pushing slam on things that are unreadable over bunnies etc makes it even more likely he is mafia.
I remember everything Lonemeow said.
You'd vote FF over Trfel though?
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On December 13 2014 14:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 14:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:46 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 14:07 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 13:58 batsnacks wrote:
@Vivax the other three people on that list who weren't Trfel you said were gut reads. I similarly don't have "thoughts" but gut feelings on those people. I am not convinced any of them are scum except for Trfel. I could skim through filters and find 1 townie thing or 1 scummy thing they did to support my gut read... like you probably did. But I'm saying it like it is. Gut says GB, FF, and templar are maybe town. I'm less confident about GB and templar, they're closer to null. Trfel is the only person on that list I feel strongly about. Why are you ignoring everything I say? I don't agree with lynching ritoky, which is most of what you've talked about today, and there was a great deal of talking about it. You haven't said anything today that I remember agreeing with. So I just left it alone. Yes that's not what I'm talking about: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=100#1986You also call me mafia after gb's "case" but don't even acknowledge any of what I/vivax/rsoultin have said to counter it. It looks like you're just freely tagging onto whoever is being scum read tbh I agreed with one of your reads, 27nb. Approx. half the game did. If I felt that strongly about you being mafia I would try a lot harder to get you lynched. I just think you might be mafia, and I have this idea that other people (not GB) might have that feeling too but are keeping quiet about it because they're scared or smth. I voted HTS because I couldn't remember a single thing she posted except for asking for MORE reading material. I might have voted tubesock for saying there are 5 mafia. I was the first person this game to point out Trfel is not himself. I still think Trfel is not himself. Vivax has said he doesn't think Trfel is himself, and Vivax coached him last game. So I was wondering if Vivax wanted to vote Trfel with me. He apparently doesn't because he has other "gut reads" to worry about or something. Well this post actually makes me happy for a change. Kinda was thinking about the trfel thing too because of how he's been defending ff. WELL it makes me supremely unhappy because all of my scum reads are completely out of the spotlight, and they're not even that strong. Like, ritoky claiming present is suboptimal, but I can't vote him after how he defended himself. GB I don't even think is being that bad. FF... maybe he's mafia? How does anyone know he's not just apathetic? I am... why wouldn't he be? I do have the same feeling of just not giving a shit about half the time this game but I still remember at least what I've been thinking. Lonemeow's point about ff forgetting his scum read on bunnies entirely is great and shows he's just not thinking about anything and vivax's point about him pushing slam on things that are unreadable over bunnies etc makes it even more likely he is mafia. I remember everything Lonemeow said. You'd vote FF over Trfel though? Well I saw your meta thing on trfel and he is incredibly different but there's been so much stuff on ff and he got buried so deep behind all the other crap happening that people didn't care about mentioning him at all which hints that it's increasingly likely he's mafia. Also the fact that loads of dead people scum read him for awesome reasons and were very likely wanting to lynch him next.
I don't think mafia killed people because of who their reads were and if they did I don't think it's a good thing to gamble on. The stuff lonemeow said is the only convincing case I can remember for FF being scum, and that was really early on.
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On December 13 2014 15:16 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 15:12 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2014 15:08 Vivax wrote:On December 13 2014 15:06 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2014 08:40 Vivax wrote:
I've looked at the dead guys filters and I think I'll just sheep onto their scumreads, namely
ritoky, FF, Oats for kita
Obi, froggy and FF for lone
I think ritoky for Koshi
Kush got killed by Marley and played horribly.
Gonna evaluate them individually.
If we have a vig he's stupid for not killing Alakaslam. Oooooooooo Vivax can you explain why you left damdred out of this list of dead peoples reads you were checking or is it because he opened an exploding present and wasn't a nk ? Cause he claimed joyful child or w/e it's called and I figured mafia mostly killed him for being a named VT and not for his reads. Tho in my latest post I also considered his reads, given that other JC claims didn't die. Cool tings. Not sure I entirely agree with the froggy read though I thought he looked at least a little towny. Is that just a read you're sheeping or your own? Undecided about obi too There's just a lot of people not interested in solving the game at all on day 2 of the game which is a bit frustrating because I have a list of like 2 or 3 fairly good mafia reads and then quite a few might be mafia/might not bes Well what you see there are mostly conclusions that I draw from the NK analysis, I don't really care about froggy for now and would like to see FF or GB lynched today as they both are in the focus of most of the killed guys and I also found arguments for both of them. I'm quite pleased that Alakaslam read the points on FF and found them convincing (and actually plays the game with some seriousness), so I'll try to boost the momentum to do what the dead guys couldn't. ##Vote FecalFeast
Will you reiterate what you drew from NK analysis that made you vote FF? I want to sheep you but I can't until I'm sure this makes sense.
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The FF case is literally just what Lonemeow said and FF possibly being apathetic. I can summarize that in one lame sentence. I am extremely disappointed with how HF and Vivax are voting right now.
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On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?
Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.
Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.
Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
This post looks so mafia to me right now.
You have a -lot- more reasons for Trfel being mafia but you don't care about that at all, do you?
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On December 13 2014 15:43 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 15:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?
Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.
Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.
Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
This post looks so mafia to me right now. You have a -lot- more reasons for Trfel being mafia but you don't care about that at all, do you? How many reasons are there for me being mafia? I count a grand total of one: lack of participation in the thread. To be fair, that is a pretty big reason. I'm doing my best to change that. I reiterate, the size of this game is giving me a ton of trouble, and I haven't been able to come up with anything amazing yet. I am really sorry that I haven't been able to play at the level that I hoped to play at, no excuses. I will keep trying my best, as that is all I can do. Hoping to come up with something soon, as I'm actually quite embarrassed by the amount of time I have spent on this game to not come up with any original scumreads.
WHY DON'T YOU STOP TRYING TO BE AMAZING AND JUST POST SHIT
Literally, shit.
Post it.
That's what everyone else is doing right now.
It's SHIT.
Maybe your SHIT is better than their SHIT?
It can't be worse.
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On December 13 2014 15:52 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 15:46 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:43 Trfel wrote:On December 13 2014 15:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?
Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.
Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.
Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
This post looks so mafia to me right now. You have a -lot- more reasons for Trfel being mafia but you don't care about that at all, do you? How many reasons are there for me being mafia? I count a grand total of one: lack of participation in the thread. To be fair, that is a pretty big reason. I'm doing my best to change that. I reiterate, the size of this game is giving me a ton of trouble, and I haven't been able to come up with anything amazing yet. I am really sorry that I haven't been able to play at the level that I hoped to play at, no excuses. I will keep trying my best, as that is all I can do. Hoping to come up with something soon, as I'm actually quite embarrassed by the amount of time I have spent on this game to not come up with any original scumreads. WHY DON'T YOU STOP TRYING TO BE AMAZING AND JUST POST SHIT Literally, shit. Post it. That's what everyone else is doing right now. It's SHIT. Maybe your SHIT is better than their SHIT? It can't be worse. Like how is this not town slam? To answer your question. Bats has become one of my strongest reads tonight hes very interactive and made some good points. Also after last game my standards for him being town are lower :D. As for slight reading you, idk your my worst santa should check his list twice.
You lowered your standards for me after a game where none of my reads were wrong?
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On December 13 2014 16:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 15:54 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:52 sicklucker wrote:On December 13 2014 15:46 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:43 Trfel wrote:On December 13 2014 15:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?
Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.
Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.
Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
This post looks so mafia to me right now. You have a -lot- more reasons for Trfel being mafia but you don't care about that at all, do you? How many reasons are there for me being mafia? I count a grand total of one: lack of participation in the thread. To be fair, that is a pretty big reason. I'm doing my best to change that. I reiterate, the size of this game is giving me a ton of trouble, and I haven't been able to come up with anything amazing yet. I am really sorry that I haven't been able to play at the level that I hoped to play at, no excuses. I will keep trying my best, as that is all I can do. Hoping to come up with something soon, as I'm actually quite embarrassed by the amount of time I have spent on this game to not come up with any original scumreads. WHY DON'T YOU STOP TRYING TO BE AMAZING AND JUST POST SHIT Literally, shit. Post it. That's what everyone else is doing right now. It's SHIT. Maybe your SHIT is better than their SHIT? It can't be worse. Like how is this not town slam? To answer your question. Bats has become one of my strongest reads tonight hes very interactive and made some good points. Also after last game my standards for him being town are lower :D. As for slight reading you, idk your my worst santa should check his list twice. You lowered your standards for me after a game where none of my reads were wrong? Lies and slander! You tried to lynch me. Twice! >> You and Damdred. Hurts my heart. That said he did play well...apart from the whole, helpful not coming across scummy part, lol.
Not that this is relevant, but I only tried to lynch you, and HTS, because my read on kush was right. That was literally the only reason.
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On December 13 2014 16:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 16:02 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 16:01 rsoultin wrote:On December 13 2014 15:54 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:52 sicklucker wrote:On December 13 2014 15:46 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:43 Trfel wrote:On December 13 2014 15:39 batsnacks wrote:On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?
Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.
Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.
Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
This post looks so mafia to me right now. You have a -lot- more reasons for Trfel being mafia but you don't care about that at all, do you? How many reasons are there for me being mafia? I count a grand total of one: lack of participation in the thread. To be fair, that is a pretty big reason. I'm doing my best to change that. I reiterate, the size of this game is giving me a ton of trouble, and I haven't been able to come up with anything amazing yet. I am really sorry that I haven't been able to play at the level that I hoped to play at, no excuses. I will keep trying my best, as that is all I can do. Hoping to come up with something soon, as I'm actually quite embarrassed by the amount of time I have spent on this game to not come up with any original scumreads. WHY DON'T YOU STOP TRYING TO BE AMAZING AND JUST POST SHIT Literally, shit. Post it. That's what everyone else is doing right now. It's SHIT. Maybe your SHIT is better than their SHIT? It can't be worse. Like how is this not town slam? To answer your question. Bats has become one of my strongest reads tonight hes very interactive and made some good points. Also after last game my standards for him being town are lower :D. As for slight reading you, idk your my worst santa should check his list twice. You lowered your standards for me after a game where none of my reads were wrong? Lies and slander! You tried to lynch me. Twice! >> You and Damdred. Hurts my heart. That said he did play well...apart from the whole, helpful not coming across scummy part, lol. Not that this is relevant, but I only tried to lynch you, and HTS, because my read on kush was right. That was literally the only reason. For the first one, yes. And yeah, you read kush, I read HTS, and battle of the stubborns. Only you had Damdred on your side. The traitor ;o; Anyhow, the actual point that I derailed myself from was I've learned to be less quick to jump down you're throat, especially if you're making reads. Even if you do sound grumpy or irritated when you're making them. That's probably part of what SL is referring to, too. So, good thing, yeah? For you anyway xP
You couldn't lynch me if you tried. I kick, scream, and bite.
Beware rabies.
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I voted Holyflare since no one wants to lynch Trfel with me.
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On December 14 2014 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
Do you think that Sicklucker didn't know that claiming he is a JOYFUL CHILD and has a gift to GIVE??? Who read that and immediately think he was stupid for not only claiming it but messing it up and not saying A FUCKING ELF????
Yeah, Sicklucker isn't the stupid one folks. We are.
Are you saying that elves start with presents and not joyful children?
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On December 14 2014 04:06 Tubesock wrote:
EBWOP: mistypes
Bats, you're sort of on the right track. In this game NO the gifts are CLEARLY RANDOM there are no roles that get gifts to give. I'm saying SICKLUCKER is being VERY smart. He knows there are at least 3 things that make his intro scummy. It's so scummy he intro'd TWICE (Hey guys I'm so JOYFUL). I'll repeat that. His first 2 posts in this game were a Joyful Child claim.
Why did we discard this? Oh it's too scummy to be scum, it's just such a stupid play. Well, it's worked.
I'm trying to understand what you're saying.
SL thought that only joyful children got presents. He spent a -long- time not understanding that presents were random. I think he actually thought he had a special role... he even said that he didn't understand named VTs.
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@tubesteak Even if SL is mafia why are you wasting your vote on him presently?
You've already "explained" your read on him. No one is voting him but you. He won't get lynched.
Right now you are leading in votes.
Maybe you should find a better place for your vote in the interest of self preservation?
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On December 14 2014 04:16 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 04:11 batsnacks wrote:On December 14 2014 04:06 Tubesock wrote:
EBWOP: mistypes
Bats, you're sort of on the right track. In this game NO the gifts are CLEARLY RANDOM there are no roles that get gifts to give. I'm saying SICKLUCKER is being VERY smart. He knows there are at least 3 things that make his intro scummy. It's so scummy he intro'd TWICE (Hey guys I'm so JOYFUL). I'll repeat that. His first 2 posts in this game were a Joyful Child claim.
Why did we discard this? Oh it's too scummy to be scum, it's just such a stupid play. Well, it's worked. I'm trying to understand what you're saying. SL thought that only joyful children got presents. He spent a -long- time not understanding that presents were random. I think he actually thought he had a special role... he even said that he didn't understand named VTs. What I am saying is that by accepting that explanation, you are saying he is stupid. Are you saying he's stupid? Tell me how that is anything but amazingly stupid play? And that you actually think he is that stupid? We spend all this effort finding the BEST lynch and it's always the one we think is the best PLAYER because we think they are the ones that contribute to mafia the most. IT's not, it's the ones who survives. He is going to outlive us all.
I am not saying SL is stupid. I'm saying he misunderstood something... and there is plenty of evidence that suggests he did. SL also over thinks stuff a lot. I can easily see SL taking one basic misunderstanding way too far. That's what I think looks like happened.
You're basing your strongest scum read on something that can be explained easily by one simple misunderstanding. You're pretty much betting your life in the game on that.
AND EVEN IF SL IS SCUM he isn't going to get lynched today. Find a better place for your vote.
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On December 14 2014 04:29 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 04:23 batsnacks wrote:On December 14 2014 04:16 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 04:11 batsnacks wrote:On December 14 2014 04:06 Tubesock wrote:
EBWOP: mistypes
Bats, you're sort of on the right track. In this game NO the gifts are CLEARLY RANDOM there are no roles that get gifts to give. I'm saying SICKLUCKER is being VERY smart. He knows there are at least 3 things that make his intro scummy. It's so scummy he intro'd TWICE (Hey guys I'm so JOYFUL). I'll repeat that. His first 2 posts in this game were a Joyful Child claim.
Why did we discard this? Oh it's too scummy to be scum, it's just such a stupid play. Well, it's worked. I'm trying to understand what you're saying. SL thought that only joyful children got presents. He spent a -long- time not understanding that presents were random. I think he actually thought he had a special role... he even said that he didn't understand named VTs. What I am saying is that by accepting that explanation, you are saying he is stupid. Are you saying he's stupid? Tell me how that is anything but amazingly stupid play? And that you actually think he is that stupid? We spend all this effort finding the BEST lynch and it's always the one we think is the best PLAYER because we think they are the ones that contribute to mafia the most. IT's not, it's the ones who survives. He is going to outlive us all. I am not saying SL is stupid. I'm saying he misunderstood something... and there is plenty of evidence that suggests he did. SL also over thinks stuff a lot. I can easily see SL taking one basic misunderstanding way too far. That's what I think looks like happened. You're basing your strongest scum read on something that can be explained easily by one simple misunderstanding. You're pretty much betting your life in the game on that. AND EVEN IF SL IS SCUM he isn't going to get lynched today. Find a better place for your vote. Yes, I am shooting the moon if you didn't notice. I AM RIGHT. Lynch me, I flip town, take heed maybe you will lynch your favorite from my 6. which i will publish soon. He will flip mafia. Keep going till I'm wrong.
Don't martyr its bad and will get you lynched.
I don't even think you're mafia.
Could you please take your head out of your ass and help town if you're town? Killing yourself isn't going to help us. No one is going to pay special attention to what you wrote before just because you flipped town.
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Tubesock you should claim right now.
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Who are you voting OWS? Do you want to vote Trfel with me?
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On December 14 2014 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 04:59 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you voting OWS? Do you want to vote Trfel with me? I have no idea. 5 PM deadlines are literally hitler and I can never find the time to make a proper decision.
Is there anything you want to talk about that would help you arrive at a decision?
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On December 14 2014 05:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 05:05 Tubesock wrote:
I will never claim. I am plain vanilla town. If you think this is some claim ploy we will lose. This is LOGIC. Now I just need to help you see it. You've just claimed vt...
Don't encourage him...
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On December 14 2014 05:12 Tubesock wrote:
HF is the brains and their leader. HE's freaking AMAZING.
If you don't vote HF I'm switching my vote to you.
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On December 14 2014 05:14 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 05:13 batsnacks wrote:On December 14 2014 05:12 Tubesock wrote:
HF is the brains and their leader. HE's freaking AMAZING. If you don't vote HF I'm switching my vote to you. Why the hell
You have problem with this?
You are voting HF yes?
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On December 14 2014 05:17 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 05:15 batsnacks wrote:On December 14 2014 05:14 Alakaslam wrote:On December 14 2014 05:13 batsnacks wrote:On December 14 2014 05:12 Tubesock wrote:
HF is the brains and their leader. HE's freaking AMAZING. If you don't vote HF I'm switching my vote to you. Why the hell You have problem with this? You are voting HF yes? Yes only moto I see for threatening as you did is if you are scum trying to use a vantage point where a player's lynch is on the line to get him to hammer a good town (who is albeit also a good scum). Like why do you do this threat as town
HF is his second strongest scum read. If tube isn't willing to vote his second strongest scum read vs get lynched, he should get lynched imo.
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I think HF is more likely scum than tube. HF is the only other person aside from tube getting votes. I will try to get HF lynched in any way I can, since I think he's more likely scum than tube.
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I would vote Trfel, KSC, HTS, HF, Oats, FF
All of these are better than tube imo
I'm rescinding my scum read on rsoultin in light of recent events.
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I can't vote HF if a FF lynch is possible.
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Part 2 was a lot better than part 1.
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I'd like to add that I had this idea before the game started that due to post limitations, scum HF would probably post/push as much/as hard as possible at the beginning of each day to exploit that mechanic.
I really hated the ritoky push and I think it is consistent with that theory.
Thoughts anyone?
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I don't know who to vote.
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On December 14 2014 06:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Great prophet GB, wisest and most illuminated bear in all the land. Do I have your divine blessing switching to kelsier from the heathen HF?
You've haven't said anything about KSC this game. Is this because you think he's scummy or are you just trying to stay alive?
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On December 14 2014 06:34 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 06:33 batsnacks wrote:On December 14 2014 06:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Great prophet GB, wisest and most illuminated bear in all the land. Do I have your divine blessing switching to kelsier from the heathen HF? You've haven't said anything about KSC this game. Is this because you think he's scummy or are you just trying to stay alive? Little bit of OMGUS, little bit of sheeping trfel's case.
What is the strongest single thing trfel said about KSC in your opinion?
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On December 14 2014 06:45 sicklucker wrote:
Bat and templar if we cant get holy lynched make sure we switch to ksc not ff. I think thats the best play
I'm going to get so much shit for this if HF flips town... I really need to learn when to just stfu.
On December 14 2014 05:13 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 05:12 Tubesock wrote:
HF is the brains and their leader. HE's freaking AMAZING. If you don't vote HF I'm switching my vote to you.
On December 14 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote:
I can't vote HF if a FF lynch is possible.
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What the literal fuck are you doing tubesteak?
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On December 14 2014 06:56 sicklucker wrote:
Well ill hammer ksc over ff if no one wants to switch to holy In 1 or 2 minutes
There's still another hour of this left...
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On December 14 2014 07:41 Trfel wrote:
Switching to Holyflare because of a gut call. It's hard to explain. If someone really wants me to, I can try though.
^ ppl voting KSC
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GB why don't you want the vig to shoot mafia?
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On December 15 2014 07:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 07:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On December 15 2014 07:09 Vivax wrote:
You're sneakily trying to fish for cred you don't deserve and judge others when they don't have it. Holy shit. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say. Ever. No cause you say scum is on the other wagons and scum wouldn't try to vote for their scumbuddy right at the end to not look badly when he flips, and your and Xatalos' votes fit into that pattern cause they were placed when Kelsier was already set to be lynched.
Didn't OWS hammer KSC? I've been operating under that assumption. Someone else said it.
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On December 15 2014 07:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 07:14 batsnacks wrote:On December 15 2014 07:13 Vivax wrote:On December 15 2014 07:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On December 15 2014 07:09 Vivax wrote:
You're sneakily trying to fish for cred you don't deserve and judge others when they don't have it. Holy shit. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say. Ever. No cause you say scum is on the other wagons and scum wouldn't try to vote for their scumbuddy right at the end to not look badly when he flips, and your and Xatalos' votes fit into that pattern cause they were placed when Kelsier was already set to be lynched. Didn't OWS hammer KSC? I've been operating under that assumption. Someone else said it. 7 to 6 Xata votes, it's 8 to 6 Trfel switches, it's 7 to 7 Obi votes last making 8 to 7 The guy who achieves majority first gets lynched, so Obi voted when Kels was set to get lynched.
KSC had his vote on FF the entire time, so he could have saved himself even with OWS' vote right?
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Maybe KSC let himself die for HF. KSC is hospital/afk, HF isn't. If they're both mafia and there's a choice I think the logical decision is to let KSC go.
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On December 15 2014 07:32 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 07:24 batsnacks wrote:On December 15 2014 07:18 Vivax wrote:On December 15 2014 07:14 batsnacks wrote:On December 15 2014 07:13 Vivax wrote:On December 15 2014 07:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On December 15 2014 07:09 Vivax wrote:
You're sneakily trying to fish for cred you don't deserve and judge others when they don't have it. Holy shit. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say. Ever. No cause you say scum is on the other wagons and scum wouldn't try to vote for their scumbuddy right at the end to not look badly when he flips, and your and Xatalos' votes fit into that pattern cause they were placed when Kelsier was already set to be lynched. Didn't OWS hammer KSC? I've been operating under that assumption. Someone else said it. 7 to 6 Xata votes, it's 8 to 6 Trfel switches, it's 7 to 7 Obi votes last making 8 to 7 The guy who achieves majority first gets lynched, so Obi voted when Kels was set to get lynched. KSC had his vote on FF the entire time, so he could have saved himself even with OWS' vote right? Yes and both mafia and town should have assumed this.
So like why didn't he? KSC was in the thread posting, hospital or no.
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On December 15 2014 07:39 rsoultin wrote:
The argument that HF never would seem like scum as scum is so WIFOM it's just...bleh
It's not wifom it's just bad. But no one is saying that? And if they did I forgot about it because it's bad.
I'm just saying KSC was here and posting at a time when he could have saved himself from a lynch. I think it's weird that he didn't.
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What about ritoky though?
##vote: ritoky
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On December 15 2014 08:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 08:05 batsnacks wrote:
What about ritoky though?
##vote: ritoky Yo, bats, do you ever get the feeling that you're being ignored? xP I've got a little sicklucker down there pretending he hasn't noticed people posting before him. It's actually quite interesting to watch.
People might try but I think I'm difficult to ignore.
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On December 15 2014 08:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 08:28 liancourt wrote:
4 things to discuss today
1. HF needs to die
2. What happened to rit's shot?
3. What happened to vig's shot?
4. Everyone just claim roles cos vig and seer died anyway. Wait vegs shot should go through even if he dies correct? Something weird is going on would mafia block and kill obiwan? Why not block ritoky? This might mean ritokys mafia.
ya think?
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On December 12 2014 08:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 08:23 sicklucker wrote:On December 12 2014 08:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Sigh kush really was scrooge aftrall. Well I guess since scrooge is dead my role is useless T_T Can you claim then? My whole plan today was to kill you if mafia didnt because you made it so blatantly obvious. I am Ghost of Christmas Present as my role T_T Unless there is a second Scrooge my role is useless as crap except for voting. Also judging from the kills it seems like they got the Branch Manager and Mass Murderer in their scum roles.
On December 15 2014 08:10 Vivax wrote:Scum is pro at sniping roles it seems. Speaking of that, I'm the ghost of christmas yet to come, and if rsoultin suggests there can be two of them, I call insanity. Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've decided that LoneMeow is mafia.
With the caveat that he might not be. Show nested quote +On December 12 2014 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(But seriously, he's like 100% mafia and should die super hard.) Also looks like our pro vig might have shot the mason.
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I'm not really a town power role. I was just trying to be like the cool people and claim at night.
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On December 15 2014 08:43 sicklucker wrote:
Can a veg shoot the night the he is killed?
If the answer is yes we probably need to kill ritoky first actually...
KP is resolved simultaneously, so yes.
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I agree with what HF just said. That's my favorite thing he's said all game.
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On December 15 2014 13:07 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 13:05 GlowingBear wrote:On December 15 2014 12:58 ritoky wrote:On December 15 2014 12:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Ritoky, did you waste your bullet?
If yes, who did you try to shoot? I had to shoot, at least how I read the present info was that there was no holding it for another night allowed. As for claiming who I tried to shoot, I am going to wait a little bit longer for that; interested in what a couple people have to say. We're you notified? of what? i was notified that my attempt to kill failed. i assumed it was due to RB, because i sincerely doubt any1 would protect who i tried to shoot. it did not say specifically RB tho
This never happened btw. There are no such notifications for missed shots/role blocks.
Not really sure why town ritoky would need to lie about this.
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Mafia better start spamming so no one reads what I just posted.
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All Palmar games (that I've played in) are like that. He doesn't give people information they don't need.
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On December 16 2014 06:26 liancourt wrote:
if rit is scum then why did he vote kel?
u know what this means...hf is also scum
Does that mean I saved Christmas?
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On December 16 2014 06:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 05:15 batsnacks wrote:On December 15 2014 13:07 ritoky wrote:On December 15 2014 13:05 GlowingBear wrote:On December 15 2014 12:58 ritoky wrote:On December 15 2014 12:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Ritoky, did you waste your bullet?
If yes, who did you try to shoot? I had to shoot, at least how I read the present info was that there was no holding it for another night allowed. As for claiming who I tried to shoot, I am going to wait a little bit longer for that; interested in what a couple people have to say. We're you notified? of what? i was notified that my attempt to kill failed. i assumed it was due to RB, because i sincerely doubt any1 would protect who i tried to shoot. it did not say specifically RB tho This never happened btw. There are no such notifications for missed shots/role blocks. Not really sure why town ritoky would need to lie about this. ? What are you talking about? First, there are such notifications because I got one. Second, are you claiming the ability to shoot people? Because that would make you mafia.
You -really- should have said I was reading wrong, or that you said the wrong thing. Now you're committed to having received a notification.
...and you didn't.
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On December 16 2014 06:47 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:45 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 06:41 ritoky wrote:On December 16 2014 05:15 batsnacks wrote:On December 15 2014 13:07 ritoky wrote:On December 15 2014 13:05 GlowingBear wrote:On December 15 2014 12:58 ritoky wrote:On December 15 2014 12:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Ritoky, did you waste your bullet?
If yes, who did you try to shoot? I had to shoot, at least how I read the present info was that there was no holding it for another night allowed. As for claiming who I tried to shoot, I am going to wait a little bit longer for that; interested in what a couple people have to say. We're you notified? of what? i was notified that my attempt to kill failed. i assumed it was due to RB, because i sincerely doubt any1 would protect who i tried to shoot. it did not say specifically RB tho This never happened btw. There are no such notifications for missed shots/role blocks. Not really sure why town ritoky would need to lie about this. ? What are you talking about? First, there are such notifications because I got one. Second, are you claiming the ability to shoot people? Because that would make you mafia. You -really- should have said I was reading wrong, or that you said the wrong thing. Now you're committed to having received a notification. ...and you didn't. How much money you wanna bet?
Betting outside of the game is against the rules.
But I'll bet the game you didn't.
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bat traps™ too strong yo
didn't you know that?
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On December 16 2014 06:57 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 06:55 batsnacks wrote:
bat traps™ too strong yo
didn't you know that? unless you were trapping all the idiots who sheeped you without a single word of explanation, dunno what you're talking about
Assuming that I didn't know what I was talking about was a bad decision.
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HF is the next lynch. ritoky had every incentive to vote him after how they spent d2.
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ritoky if you need clarification on how the rules of the game work, this is what the OP says:
FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES I DON'T EXIST. DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE HOST, OR TALK ABOUT TALKING TO THE HOST
Almost every game I have modkill some idiot who starts asking me questions in the thread. Do NOT do this.
The process is simple:
Think of a question
Ask me the question
Receive the answer
If I think the answer is relevant to all of town, I will announce it in the thread, without mentioning who asked the question.
Notice that this list never includes you announcing you're going to ask me the question, or announcing that you're waiting for an answer from me. Interactions with me should be private.
I know how the rules of the game work, but I thought I would post this unless you missed it.
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***in case you missed it.
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On December 16 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:20 liancourt wrote:
rit why didnt u claim who u were going to shoot at night missed deadline due to seahawks game, otherwise i would have right b4 the deadline.
I will however always accept mafia changing their shots to prevent claiming during the resolution period.
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On December 16 2014 07:45 ritoky wrote:
i mean i guess i shot into protection then?
there's a message in my inbox, all i can tell you.
Let's talk about it after the game (if you're town). You do understand that I can't move my vote with what's in front of me though, right?
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Well, FF is dead. Shame you didn't read what I quoted at the top of the page.
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On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together.
No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC.
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On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me.
If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it.
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Liam is weird. This is not a new thing.
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On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me. If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it. Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious. He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before.
Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't.
Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious.
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On December 16 2014 08:06 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:04 liancourt wrote:On December 16 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:56 liancourt wrote:On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. why didnt rit vote HF to save kel???? HF mafia please I want HF to flip so I can analyze the shizwihiznit of the day 2 votes vote HF kill rito tomorrow Why the fuck do you want to lynch the town guy 24/7 over the confirmed mafia ritoky. i want you to flip first it will tell me a lot more information rit flipping now will tell me nothing Killing mafia when we don't even know how lose we are to lylo is worse than killing a question mark?
Just ignore him and pretend he's with us in spirit. There are better things to focus on.
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On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me. If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it. Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious. He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before. Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't. Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious. I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time. If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1.
You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case.
And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did.
I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway?
and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed.
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On December 16 2014 08:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote:
Clarification:
Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP.
Anyone saying to kill me before this must be mafia. Absolutely ridiculous that me and ritoky would be mafia together. No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me. If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it. Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious. He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before. Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't. Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious. I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time. If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1. You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case. And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did. I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway? and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed. I'm not talking about what i would do. I implied that if i was mafia and saw that case then i would think my team mate would die 100% of the time, especially as loads of people switched at the time and then just bus him. Gb comes along and says rah rah my case is awesome but at that point people had already pointed out the multiple holes in his case and ritoky was one of them and couldn't join the anti mafia train. I am playing badly if I'm even up for consideration of being lynched.
Let's just ignore everything but two facts for the purposes of this post:
KSC, who was confirmed mafia, did not switch his vote to you despite being in the thread and posting at eod d2.
ritoky, who I think is pretty obviously mafia, also did not switch his vote to you despite scum reading you for half the day.
None of that has anything to do with how well you played. Both of those things make you scummy.
So no, I don't think you're playing badly if you're a probable lynch target. I definitely never said you were playing badly. I never meant to imply it. It's not part of my message.
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On December 16 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:28 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 07:55 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:53 batsnacks wrote:
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No it's not ridiculous. There are now 2 scum that didn't vote to save KSC. Yes bussing is cool when a guy is super afk after saying he liked the case on his partner but not the case on me and the people on me. If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it. Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious. He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before. Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't. Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious. I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time. If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1. You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case. And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did. I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway? and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed. I'm not talking about what i would do. I implied that if i was mafia and saw that case then i would think my team mate would die 100% of the time, especially as loads of people switched at the time and then just bus him. Gb comes along and says rah rah my case is awesome but at that point people had already pointed out the multiple holes in his case and ritoky was one of them and couldn't join the anti mafia train. I am playing badly if I'm even up for consideration of being lynched. Let's just ignore everything but two facts for the purposes of this post: KSC, who was confirmed mafia, did not switch his vote to you despite being in the thread and posting at eod d2. ritoky, who I think is pretty obviously mafia, also did not switch his vote to you despite scum reading you for half the day. None of that has anything to do with how well you played. Both of those things make you scummy. So no, I don't think you're playing badly if you're a probable lynch target. I definitely never said you were playing badly. I never meant to imply it. It's not part of my message. Ritoky calls me a ? And he doesn't like ppl on my wagon before it even got that close so if he switches he outs himself as mafia when kelsier gets lynched today because i flipped town. Then kelsier dies AND ritoky dies. Or Bus team mate dying and get sweet sweet town cred. I think it's pretty obvious.
ritoky is dying because of a very simple mistake. If I wasn't paying very careful attention to the rules, today would have looked a lot different. I probably would not have kept my vote on ritoky if I didn't -know- he lied.
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On December 16 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:41 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:28 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 07:58 batsnacks wrote:
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If you want to make me understand that isn't the sentence that's going to do it. Ritoky said he flat out agreed on the case on kelsier when the votes were piling up on him. He went onto gb's case and said he didn't really agree with a lot of the points, I'm more of a ? Than kelsier and that the people on my wagon are suspicious. He literally couldn't do anything else BUT bus kelsier at this point and it wasn't a point at which the votes were 8-7 and switching could save kelsier. It was much before. Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't. Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious. I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time. If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1. You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case. And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did. I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway? and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed. I'm not talking about what i would do. I implied that if i was mafia and saw that case then i would think my team mate would die 100% of the time, especially as loads of people switched at the time and then just bus him. Gb comes along and says rah rah my case is awesome but at that point people had already pointed out the multiple holes in his case and ritoky was one of them and couldn't join the anti mafia train. I am playing badly if I'm even up for consideration of being lynched. Let's just ignore everything but two facts for the purposes of this post: KSC, who was confirmed mafia, did not switch his vote to you despite being in the thread and posting at eod d2. ritoky, who I think is pretty obviously mafia, also did not switch his vote to you despite scum reading you for half the day. None of that has anything to do with how well you played. Both of those things make you scummy. So no, I don't think you're playing badly if you're a probable lynch target. I definitely never said you were playing badly. I never meant to imply it. It's not part of my message. Ritoky calls me a ? And he doesn't like ppl on my wagon before it even got that close so if he switches he outs himself as mafia when kelsier gets lynched today because i flipped town. Then kelsier dies AND ritoky dies. Or Bus team mate dying and get sweet sweet town cred. I think it's pretty obvious. ritoky is dying because of a very simple mistake. If I wasn't paying very careful attention to the rules, today would have looked a lot different. I probably would not have kept my vote on ritoky if I didn't -know- he lied. Yes because he fucking picked option 2??? That's literally exactly what I'm saying here as reasons for not switching. This game would look much more different if 2 people switched to me RIGHT at deadline after calling me town all game and also saying his scummy people were on my wagon and I was a? Compared to a slam dunk. That's like giving yourself away
Are you trying to say that ritoky was calling you town all game? I'm not like patronizing or whatever but is that actually what you're saying?
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On December 16 2014 08:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 08:45 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:41 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:28 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:06 batsnacks wrote:
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Yeah he did describe trfel's kelsier case as a "slam dunk" which if he's mafia is a very strange decision considering your and his interaction at the start of the day. He had every reason to vote you... but didn't.
Which... I think that actually makes you look way worse. Like I said before given the choice between afk/hospital KSC and not afk/hospital HF, the choice is obvious. I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time. If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1. You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case. And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did. I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway? and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed. I'm not talking about what i would do. I implied that if i was mafia and saw that case then i would think my team mate would die 100% of the time, especially as loads of people switched at the time and then just bus him. Gb comes along and says rah rah my case is awesome but at that point people had already pointed out the multiple holes in his case and ritoky was one of them and couldn't join the anti mafia train. I am playing badly if I'm even up for consideration of being lynched. Let's just ignore everything but two facts for the purposes of this post: KSC, who was confirmed mafia, did not switch his vote to you despite being in the thread and posting at eod d2. ritoky, who I think is pretty obviously mafia, also did not switch his vote to you despite scum reading you for half the day. None of that has anything to do with how well you played. Both of those things make you scummy. So no, I don't think you're playing badly if you're a probable lynch target. I definitely never said you were playing badly. I never meant to imply it. It's not part of my message. Ritoky calls me a ? And he doesn't like ppl on my wagon before it even got that close so if he switches he outs himself as mafia when kelsier gets lynched today because i flipped town. Then kelsier dies AND ritoky dies. Or Bus team mate dying and get sweet sweet town cred. I think it's pretty obvious. ritoky is dying because of a very simple mistake. If I wasn't paying very careful attention to the rules, today would have looked a lot different. I probably would not have kept my vote on ritoky if I didn't -know- he lied. Yes because he fucking picked option 2??? That's literally exactly what I'm saying here as reasons for not switching. This game would look much more different if 2 people switched to me RIGHT at deadline after calling me town all game and also saying his scummy people were on my wagon and I was a? Compared to a slam dunk. That's like giving yourself away Are you trying to say that ritoky was calling you town all game? I'm not like patronizing or whatever but is that actually what you're saying? Please just learn to read. Ritoky bobbing along and sees a case that will get his team mate lynched like 90% of the time. Ritoky prepares to bus and says the case is a slam dunk. Ritoky sees people start to critique gb's case at this point in time saying it's not very good etc etc and sees that 3 people he has pushed as mafia that day are on that wagon, he sees that and prepares to give reasons why he'd not be on a town lynch aka avoiding suspicion. If he started to jump on MY wagon and i flipped town the people would look at the voters on me and instantly see that he jumped on a wagon with all his scum reads and ignored all the critiques of gb's case while calling out kelsier as mafia. That is so obviously scummy that he would try to avoid that at all costs. Especially as the vote between me and kelsier wasn't even close until near the deadline. So he leaves his options open. He doesn't actually call me town he critiques gbs case and leaves it open ended so he can still scum read me at a later date when he wouldn't draw as much suspicion to himself because everyone is just lynching me. If he did switch last minute as soon as i flipped town people would be all over a kelsier wagon today and he'd flip scum and ritoky would look absolutely terrible for switching off someone like kelsier onto town me after saying kelsier was a slam dunk. You keep thinking like the votes were always 8-7 when they weren't at all.
HF I really don't appreciate stuff like bolded when I'm trying to have a serious discussion with you. It makes me think you're not taking it seriously, which in turn makes me not take you seriously.
I see a lot of "if you were town" in what you just wrote.
"if HF is town" is not one of the conditionals I'm operating under right now.
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On December 16 2014 09:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 09:00 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:55 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:45 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:41 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:On December 16 2014 08:28 Holyflare wrote:On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:
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You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case.
And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did.
I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway?
and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed. I'm not talking about what i would do. I implied that if i was mafia and saw that case then i would think my team mate would die 100% of the time, especially as loads of people switched at the time and then just bus him. Gb comes along and says rah rah my case is awesome but at that point people had already pointed out the multiple holes in his case and ritoky was one of them and couldn't join the anti mafia train. I am playing badly if I'm even up for consideration of being lynched. Let's just ignore everything but two facts for the purposes of this post: KSC, who was confirmed mafia, did not switch his vote to you despite being in the thread and posting at eod d2. ritoky, who I think is pretty obviously mafia, also did not switch his vote to you despite scum reading you for half the day. None of that has anything to do with how well you played. Both of those things make you scummy. So no, I don't think you're playing badly if you're a probable lynch target. I definitely never said you were playing badly. I never meant to imply it. It's not part of my message. Ritoky calls me a ? And he doesn't like ppl on my wagon before it even got that close so if he switches he outs himself as mafia when kelsier gets lynched today because i flipped town. Then kelsier dies AND ritoky dies. Or Bus team mate dying and get sweet sweet town cred. I think it's pretty obvious. ritoky is dying because of a very simple mistake. If I wasn't paying very careful attention to the rules, today would have looked a lot different. I probably would not have kept my vote on ritoky if I didn't -know- he lied. Yes because he fucking picked option 2??? That's literally exactly what I'm saying here as reasons for not switching. This game would look much more different if 2 people switched to me RIGHT at deadline after calling me town all game and also saying his scummy people were on my wagon and I was a? Compared to a slam dunk. That's like giving yourself away Are you trying to say that ritoky was calling you town all game? I'm not like patronizing or whatever but is that actually what you're saying? Please just learn to read. Ritoky bobbing along and sees a case that will get his team mate lynched like 90% of the time. Ritoky prepares to bus and says the case is a slam dunk. Ritoky sees people start to critique gb's case at this point in time saying it's not very good etc etc and sees that 3 people he has pushed as mafia that day are on that wagon, he sees that and prepares to give reasons why he'd not be on a town lynch aka avoiding suspicion. If he started to jump on MY wagon and i flipped town the people would look at the voters on me and instantly see that he jumped on a wagon with all his scum reads and ignored all the critiques of gb's case while calling out kelsier as mafia. That is so obviously scummy that he would try to avoid that at all costs. Especially as the vote between me and kelsier wasn't even close until near the deadline. So he leaves his options open. He doesn't actually call me town he critiques gbs case and leaves it open ended so he can still scum read me at a later date when he wouldn't draw as much suspicion to himself because everyone is just lynching me. If he did switch last minute as soon as i flipped town people would be all over a kelsier wagon today and he'd flip scum and ritoky would look absolutely terrible for switching off someone like kelsier onto town me after saying kelsier was a slam dunk. You keep thinking like the votes were always 8-7 when they weren't at all. HF I really don't appreciate stuff like bolded when I'm trying to have a serious discussion with you. It makes me think you're not taking it seriously, which in turn makes me not take you seriously. I see a lot of "if you were town" in what you just wrote. "if HF is town" is not one of the conditionals I'm operating under right now. Then stop trying to have a fucking discussion with me if you aren't going to listen. You're literally just saying you are having a discussion with me for no reason if you are saying there's no conditional for me being town. I've posted the above like 4 times and it's frustrating that you aren't listening.
Fair enough.
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On December 16 2014 08:46 ritoky wrote:
know you'll be lynching a town who hammered the mafia last phase. My bad.
This is ritoky's argument that he's innocent.
When we prove him wrong HF will be mafia.
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On December 16 2014 10:50 Holyflare wrote:
I still won't be but ok
but I'll still <3 u
xoxoxoxoxoxo
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Okay being serious.
What if ritoky and HF are BOTH town? What if we believe everything they expect us to believe.
ritoky made a bad decision and got himself into a bad cycle of lies
HF is being incriminated by an apathetic KSC and ritoky who made a bad decision and got himsrlf into a bad cycle of lies
What then?
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On December 16 2014 11:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 10:59 batsnacks wrote:
Okay being serious.
What if ritoky and HF are BOTH town? What if we believe everything they expect us to believe.
ritoky made a bad decision and got himself into a bad cycle of lies
HF is being incriminated by an apathetic KSC and ritoky who made a bad decision and got himsrlf into a bad cycle of lies
What then?
If it's 4 mafia and they have 2kp then it's 2 mislynches which is 12vs4 Mislynch and 2kp is 9vs4 Mislynch and 2kp is 6vs4 lylo
Can you do what you just did except with names instead of numbers?
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I do not think a ritoky lynch is negotiable for me
Maybe a HF lynch is negotiable for me. So if HF is town what's important is to find exactly who's scummier than him.
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If Ritoky is mafia then HF is mafia.
If you don't think HF is mafia then you honestly have no business voting ritoky.
If HF is town then ritoky is just a stupid lynch liars policy.
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So you think KSC wasted his vote to give ritoky town credit too?
You think they traded 2 scum for a HF mislynch?
I don't think so.
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How many people are scum reading ritoky but not HF?
If this is true for you pls explain why you are scum reading ritoky.
@ritoky please walk me through from the beginning exactly what happened with you claiming and how much of what youve said is true. Start from when you first received the present, if you even did receive a present.
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btw usually when people sheep me really bad stuff happens...
just saying
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On December 17 2014 07:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 07:50 batsnacks wrote:
btw usually when people sheep me really bad stuff happens...
just saying Lol, the quintessential disclaimer. My current lynch pushes have a successful scum lynch rate of 1:1 lol. Cross your fingers and hope it becomes 2:1? Bats, you were right on all yours last game.
Yeah but no one was sheeping me then.
I'm like 0/8 when it comes to people sheeping me.
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Holy bat traps batman
I broke my curse
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It's unfortunate that mafia will be killing me tonight and I don't trust you guys to lynch HF without me.
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On December 17 2014 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
Actually ok this is not that bad. If we can agree that ff was the green check then holyflare is confirmed town. Thats like almost auto...
what
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This is exactly I don't trust you guys to lynch HF without me.
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I want everyone who isn't going to vote HF tomorrow to type and post the following:
"I believe that at least two members of the mafia team, given the choice between killing town and killing mafia, chose to kill mafia."
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On December 17 2014 08:40 sicklucker wrote:
Oats could be mafia he missed the vote and most votes in a game where he was town. Froggy could be mafia he missed the vote. I think gb and others missed the vote too.
Like mafia never votes very well from my experience their too scared to change their views. Ksc was also a pretty late wagon.
This is what you believe SL:
I believe that at least two members of the mafia team, given the choice between killing town and killing mafia, chose to kill mafia.
Doesn't that embarrass you?
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On December 17 2014 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
Just die bats that vote alone isint enough.
plynching oats for being afk is enough though?
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If HF never had a present in the first place, he might keep quiet about "who he gave it to." Otherwise what's the point of not saying?
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On December 18 2014 01:42 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2014 01:40 batsnacks wrote:
If HF never had a present in the first place, he might keep quiet about "who he gave it to." Otherwise what's the point of not saying? He could of just fake claimed the present as far we know to keep the mafia guessing who got the present.
I can think of a better way to keep mafia from guessing who has presents and who doesn't:
Not claiming at all.
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On December 23 2014 11:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Bats you read me wrong this game :O
Are you sure? I don't remember that.
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