TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells

On December 11 2014 06:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really care much for this nb wagon, but I don't really know where else I would deflect the vote.

On December 11 2014 03:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't know how you guys expect to get anything done if you don't sheep.

That's how you make lynches happen.

@kita: I don't really feel particularly strongly about bunnies either way. I think Koshi really hit a nail on the head when he asked if we could produce a towncase on her, and I really don't feel like I can make one. I don't feel like any of the arguments levied against her make her mafia and I like where my vote is right now.

But if nb dies...Meh. That's fine I guess.

On December 11 2014 01:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Maybe.

Idk.

I might just be getting paranoid.

On December 10 2014 12:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone explain the nb votes to me like I'm dumb? I feel like I missed something but I don't know what that is. I can't remember the points against her being spectacular in the first place.

Also kind of weirded out by the fact that Koshi apparently knows my meta now. His read on me is generally inaccurate/based on me posting big meaty posts, so having him come out and say "OWS is useless and could be scum" when he loves to give me tons of leeway is strange.

On November 26 2014 08:02 Trfel wrote:
I'm becoming highly suspicious of batsnacks.

Looking at batsnacks' posts this game, it does seem like he hasn't contributed many reads or constructive comments at all. He has pressure voted kushm4sta, and tried to convince other people to vote for kushm4sta, as shown:



Then Oatsmaster starts hinting that he might be mafia, and he responds as follows:


He just starts attacking Oatsmaster, without actually providing any argument against the accsusations.

It's been nearly 24 hours and I cannot find any critical thinking or logical reads from batsnacks. He has been only minimally probing for information, as well.

Now, examining batsnacks' mafia history, it seems to show similar, non-accusatory play as mafia, but an ability to logically provide arguments against people as town.

In Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2, his most recent mafia game, batsnacks was a mafia vanilla. His posts generally seem to lack content, for example this:

batsnacks did give some analysis in saying that robik seemed to be town in that game, which ended up being correct. But he failed to provide specifics or any real evidence of this:


He also defends Liam from an accusation. Up to now, the only two real things he's said are claiming these two people to be town. At this point he is accused of being mafia, and this is his defense:

He continues to not provide any true defense or explanation for his actions, and ends up being lynched on the first day.

In his mafia game before that, Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini, batsnacks is a town vanilla.


batsnacks accuses Oatsmaster of being mafia in this game (which ends up being incorrect). But when he defends someone as being town, he provides some support for this claim, and also shares his views a bit.


Here's a critical analysis of a post in that game. It doesn't result in anything, but this post has more logic and scum-searching than his play to this point in the current game, as well as his play in the first game I mentioned, where he was mafia.


Then he claims Hopeless1der to be mafia, which ends up being correct. I don't see any reasoning listed, though. This post also came after the first 24 hours of the game, unlike all of the other posts quoted here.

I did notice this inconsistency between his post in this game:

and this:


Why the change? Probably just a change in his playstyle, but another explanation is that he is searching for mafia in that game, and has less incentive to do so in this game.

Looking at batsnacks' play in the game preceding the above game, 2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er, batsnacks immediately comes up with a comprehensive look at GlowingBear:


He's clearly thinking and investigating the posts, and trying to find the scum. Then he starts thinking that SkyDragon is scum:



He continues to press on GlowingBear and SkyDragon. Both end up being town, but batsnacks is showing that he is capable and willing to attempt to find scum and provide logical accusations that other players are scum.

In conclusion, batsnacks seems very suspcious because he has not yet provided any real content, particularly at least one accusation of someone being mafia with an argument behind it. This resembles his play in his last game, where he was mafia, and contrasts with his play in previous games where he was town. What do you guys think?