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On December 10 2014 02:10 Tubesock wrote:Crap, I didn't. I think he's null. Shit, I totally meant I scum 27NB for her posts that were wishy washy on Froggy but later scum lists him and continues talking about her boobs being too big for bras. I should have put quotations. Sorry, It's 3 am here and I'm fading. But can't sleep cause this stupid game is consuming me. Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 02:03 Damdred wrote:
Well tube do you believe template role claim? No, I am discarding his Santa "claim" and I think I saw another but I didn't give it any credence. I need to go back and reread that.
I don't think he ever made a Santa claim at all... He did make a joy claim though
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Meh we asked template for a story he delivered I wouldn't lynch a claimed named vt today I believe.
kush did this stunt in the anime mafia game as town as well....so there's that
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Heres the group I would be happy lynching into today
Froggy: One post said he was going to bed, the post had plenty of double speak in it and he hasn't returned and its been quite awhile (which isn't inherrintly scummy)
Bats: Hes probably the least hesitant that I would be willing to lynch into. Besides a couple of posts he is completely forgettable, he misrepresented peoples posts and then was forced to play and lurked since then.
FF: His posts seem to lack direction and its really difficult to even remember what all hes been doing in the thread without reading his filter.
I'm not sure that I would lynch 27nb today, she has done some scummy things i'm just a bit hesitant and the follow up to her return will decide that.
People i won't listen about:
Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush
People who i love but am suspicious of
Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town)
GB: Hasn't really read the thread yet has pretty unexplained reads tried to get people to view him as town becasue he had a present what? Unexplained scum read on templars I think even though hes claimed
HTS pretty unremarkable play so far but i doubt i would lynch her, even though the posts are scattered does have a somewhat direction and train of thought.
Tube: Need him to post more but he is seeming okish so far
one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me.
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Actually on another read through even though i'm slightly suspicious of Xata i'd probably never lynch him today Ritoky is a strange struggle read for me right now i'm not sure if hes town this time
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On December 10 2014 02:50 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote:
one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me. On the topic of policy votes, Trfel has yet to post D1. In fact his only post in his filter is his /in post.
thank you for pointing this out, I don't know what to make of it but the only option we have now is lynch gb
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Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum
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On December 10 2014 03:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum He attacked marv last game Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 02:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually on another read through even though i'm slightly suspicious of Xata i'd probably never lynch him today Ritoky is a strange struggle read for me right now i'm not sure if hes town this time Please look into why he was angry at someone using meta reads because it looked pretty strange to me and I don't want to spend my remaining like 20 or less posts on it with 24 hours+ left  Bunnies re entry not that great cz she says she town read people for other posts and not the attack on froggy but that just means her original statement of people jumping on froggy is invalid because it's most of her town reads
that's true nut we didn't really have true lurkers that game either and the one who was (Elvis) he did scum read until I replaced in.
I'll take a look at it now cause something isn't sitting right with me
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On December 10 2014 03:54 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote:
Heres the group I would be happy lynching into today
Froggy: One post said he was going to bed, the post had plenty of double speak in it and he hasn't returned and its been quite awhile (which isn't inherrintly scummy)
Bats: Hes probably the least hesitant that I would be willing to lynch into. Besides a couple of posts he is completely forgettable, he misrepresented peoples posts and then was forced to play and lurked since then.
FF: His posts seem to lack direction and its really difficult to even remember what all hes been doing in the thread without reading his filter.
I'm not sure that I would lynch 27nb today, she has done some scummy things i'm just a bit hesitant and the follow up to her return will decide that.
People i won't listen about:
Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush
People who i love but am suspicious of
Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town)
GB: Hasn't really read the thread yet has pretty unexplained reads tried to get people to view him as town becasue he had a present what? Unexplained scum read on templars I think even though hes claimed
HTS pretty unremarkable play so far but i doubt i would lynch her, even though the posts are scattered does have a somewhat direction and train of thought.
Tube: Need him to post more but he is seeming okish so far
one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me. I actually laughed out loud because this was such a funny suspicion :D Note that there's a post limit here so I need to reduce spam/fluff so that I won't hit the post limit long before deadline. Hint: it usually becomes clear if I'm scum or not around D2-D3. Not really worth using more posts on this topic now though. Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point. On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role. I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon. Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse.
Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though.
The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations and as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point.
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On December 10 2014 04:10 froggynoddy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo? On December 09 2014 08:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:20 froggynoddy wrote:
Gogogo.
RNG sounds pretty silly. Though at least it would create some content and stop people from lurking.
On the subject of lurking. having not played in a while... when I did play, town usually spent Day 1 arguing on whether to lynch lurkers, I assume this is still the case. I have to go to bed now (work in the morning) but pre-empting this topic lets just cut to the chase and all agree nicely that policy lynching is stupid, however in the absence of a decent slip to go on, lurkers are the best of bad lynch options.
So what you're saying is policy lynches are terrible but if it all goes sour you want to policy lynch?? On December 09 2014 08:22 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:20 froggynoddy wrote:
Gogogo.
RNG sounds pretty silly. Though at least it would create some content and stop people from lurking.
On the subject of lurking. having not played in a while... when I did play, town usually spent Day 1 arguing on whether to lynch lurkers, I assume this is still the case. I have to go to bed now (work in the morning) but pre-empting this topic lets just cut to the chase and all agree nicely that policy lynching is stupid, however in the absence of a decent slip to go on, lurkers are the best of bad lynch options.
-5 town points for this post, going into the bad boy category tonight ##Unvote TemplarStory shows awesomeness On December 09 2014 08:30 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:27 KelsierSC wrote:On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo? i like how you can already split your town and tentative town Cause i'm comfortable puttinng hf rit and templar into a pile, slam is slam so i'm not comfortable putting him with my other new town toys yet. Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 08:27 27ninjabunnies wrote:On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town
Froggynoddy is in scum pile
Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo? Curious on your thought process here hun. What did Froggy do, or not do, to be put into your scum pile? Cause he made a pretty bad post that boiled down to, lets agree lynching lurkers is a bad thing but i'd be ok with lynching lurkers. Ok, perhaps I should explain things a little more simply. My statement can be broken down as follows 1. ANY policy (including lurker lynching) is bad because it stops people from scumhunting; 2. Lurking is still a valid criteria to lynch on, however it is just one of many criteria and should be given its appropriate weight; 3. It's DAY1, therefore we are not going to have much evidence/criteria to go on. Furthermore, this is a relatively large game. As such its an easy scum tactic to lurk whilst town lynches someone who is involved in the thread on very poor evidence (again because this is the nature of day 1 lynches), therefore lurking is a decent criteria to justify a lynch at this stage, just not one that warrants a policy. I shall read rest of the thread now...
So much double speak in this post, i'm not sure what to make of it honestly.
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On December 10 2014 04:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam can you explain why oats is town
I'm not sure that he is town but he has enough of a direction and questioning peoples motives posts and tries to push the thread i wouldn't really be interested in lynching him today unless someone put a really good case together
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On December 10 2014 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 04:24 Damdred wrote:On December 10 2014 03:54 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote:
Heres the group I would be happy lynching into today
Froggy: One post said he was going to bed, the post had plenty of double speak in it and he hasn't returned and its been quite awhile (which isn't inherrintly scummy)
Bats: Hes probably the least hesitant that I would be willing to lynch into. Besides a couple of posts he is completely forgettable, he misrepresented peoples posts and then was forced to play and lurked since then.
FF: His posts seem to lack direction and its really difficult to even remember what all hes been doing in the thread without reading his filter.
I'm not sure that I would lynch 27nb today, she has done some scummy things i'm just a bit hesitant and the follow up to her return will decide that.
People i won't listen about:
Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush
People who i love but am suspicious of
Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town)
GB: Hasn't really read the thread yet has pretty unexplained reads tried to get people to view him as town becasue he had a present what? Unexplained scum read on templars I think even though hes claimed
HTS pretty unremarkable play so far but i doubt i would lynch her, even though the posts are scattered does have a somewhat direction and train of thought.
Tube: Need him to post more but he is seeming okish so far
one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me. I actually laughed out loud because this was such a funny suspicion :D Note that there's a post limit here so I need to reduce spam/fluff so that I won't hit the post limit long before deadline. Hint: it usually becomes clear if I'm scum or not around D2-D3. Not really worth using more posts on this topic now though. On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point. On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role. I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon. Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse. Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though. The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations an d as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point. The bolded is you lying. If you really believe it, you're forcing a read based on only one scum game (Arnold). I've went to high profile people very recently as town (against marv day1 on that game I forgot the name)
What are you on about GB I didn't even bring up arnold. I already explained that the game i refernced was titanic mafia the one hour game. Also your showing of a game that is against what i'm saying is not correct in the fact that the game had 0 lurkers after I subbed into the game, and bfeore i subbed in you had a light scum read on Elvis and then it went away once I started posting.
So yea i'm not lying at all, and you still aren't doing anything except trying to paint things as scummy that aren't so.
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On December 10 2014 04:38 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 04:24 Damdred wrote:On December 10 2014 03:54 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote:
Heres the group I would be happy lynching into today
Froggy: One post said he was going to bed, the post had plenty of double speak in it and he hasn't returned and its been quite awhile (which isn't inherrintly scummy)
Bats: Hes probably the least hesitant that I would be willing to lynch into. Besides a couple of posts he is completely forgettable, he misrepresented peoples posts and then was forced to play and lurked since then.
FF: His posts seem to lack direction and its really difficult to even remember what all hes been doing in the thread without reading his filter.
I'm not sure that I would lynch 27nb today, she has done some scummy things i'm just a bit hesitant and the follow up to her return will decide that.
People i won't listen about:
Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush
People who i love but am suspicious of
Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town)
GB: Hasn't really read the thread yet has pretty unexplained reads tried to get people to view him as town becasue he had a present what? Unexplained scum read on templars I think even though hes claimed
HTS pretty unremarkable play so far but i doubt i would lynch her, even though the posts are scattered does have a somewhat direction and train of thought.
Tube: Need him to post more but he is seeming okish so far
one of my top lynches is a policy lynch basically and i know that, which makes his post even more hilarious to me. I actually laughed out loud because this was such a funny suspicion :D Note that there's a post limit here so I need to reduce spam/fluff so that I won't hit the post limit long before deadline. Hint: it usually becomes clear if I'm scum or not around D2-D3. Not really worth using more posts on this topic now though. On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point. On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role. I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon. Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse. Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though. The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations and as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point. I saw that post too, I just didn't quote it. It basically had the same content anyway except saying that you'd delay that thought. Feel free to do so. As a sidenote, I kind of like your posts so far. The claim also helps. Unfortunately I don't think I can put you as sure town since I've never been that good at reading you. Hm. You might be more familiar with GB than me. I wouldn't really want to lynch him based on a meta read that isn't even from my own experience though.
No xata you have always been good at reading me you just never trust yourself and give into paranoia and scum pushing if you are town.
And yea i'm not sure that we should lynch GB based entirely on this piece of meta as meta reads can be a bit misleading, however we can lynch GB for not really contributing to the game not reading the game, not making any type of real push besides on someone who has claimed a role etc
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On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote:
Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.
On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.
FOS:
Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification)
and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)
Still reading...
.....Becasue it is double speak. Don't policy lynch, lynching lurkers is a form of policy lynching, in a big game a good scum strategy is to lurk and they are a ok lynch?
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On December 10 2014 04:48 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2014 04:30 Damdred wrote:On December 10 2014 04:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam can you explain why oats is town I'm not sure that he is town but he has enough of a direction and questioning peoples motives posts and tries to push the thread i wouldn't really be interested in lynching him today unless someone put a really good case together I remember how he entered the thread though and it left a bad impression on me Show nested quote +On December 09 2014 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
I was not ready for the sheer volume of posts specifically the last pst which is kind of out of the blue after shit posting. Since then I haven't found anything that towny, he argued with hf about nb saying that nb didn't do anything remotely scummy. I mean if you look at the nb post, it is almost objectively scummy. The vivax discussion is actually ok and I think that angle is kind of towny but his initial entry just felt bad. I wouldn't be happy with him in my town circle at this point.
I really should of combined all of my posts, i regret that now.
Eh, I can sorta see where your coming from. I just don't think Oats should be lynched today, i'm historically bad at reading Oats though and always think hes a bit scummy in how he does things. I just can see the direction he is trying to go in and would be willing to give him another night/day cycle to do stuff
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As for ritoky (which I assume is what HF asked me about) There are a few weird things in his filter that bug me. He makes mention of several scummy things in his filter but never really pushes any of it or tries to push the thread when hes in it. The sole exception to this is his yelling at LS for using one of the ways hes learned to read people early. And scum reading him for it, this does not make sense of ritoky and feels like he just found an easy target to rest on instead of pushing on other higher profile people.
Its a difficult read but I just don't quite see ritoky as town in his filter.
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Anti town is not scrum however.
And to answer before question, why focus on ff or ls, for instance instead of kits, vivax could be pressured by you as your times in thread have been close but ignoring has happened a bit.
Your case is interesting xata pointed out something good and lack of strong stances isn't crummy alone kita
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You called groggy out on his post haven't even responded to the other things he's said that evaporated into the air.
Light scrum read on 27nb I believe (could be wrong) you haven't really mentioned her return or subsequent lurking since.
We both know how vivax plays scrum he deserves pressure for being so ask...
You just seem to gravitate towards the easy targets and not sticking your hand into any other issues that are up which is weird for you since generally you are involved in everything as town.
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I will give you, your last point I do realize and know it's true.
Yea auto correct got me. However there wasn't much of a push by you.
I am struggling with you rit, I don't think you should probably be lynched your at least trying and giving answers.
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Ok so I feel sorta weird about templars biggish post, it has a lot of words without actually coming to a lot of conclusions and has a ton of fluff. And he went back on his joyful child claim it seems.
Opinons of the post?
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I like this push, sadly I can't take part until the morrow I'm sorry I got really sick tonight
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