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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:24 GMT
#384
On December 09 2014 09:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:06 Damdred wrote:
So what is your conclussion? Do you think 27nb is town still even though you understand where HF is coming from? Or are you leaning a different way now?

Also talk about 27nb list post some if you can.

What do you make of the froggy post and vivax?


Damdred, once I read that, I've put her in scumpile for now.

Froggy's post to me is a null, although that sentence is contradictory. I think he was trying to say that policy lynches are stupid in comparison to a scum lynch, and then he says "in the absence of a decent slip." Though poorly worded, I can still understand him and I believe he was the one who said before the game that he was returning here after 2 years ago or something, so I wouldn't blame him for saying that. I cannot comment on how things were 2 years ago as I wasn't around then. What I

Vivax's post is also null to me. Again very straightforward, I don't see any reason to sort him either way.


Do you have any other reads going on right now on the active people?

15 or 16/80 teehee
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:26 GMT
#387
On December 09 2014 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh hai
I'm town


GB just claimed scum
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:30 GMT
#392
On December 09 2014 09:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Damdred, regarding the list post...honestly that's a lot of reads for this early D1. For now though, take what I say on that with a grain of salt because I have not looked at too many of the people's posts she listed except Templar's story, etc.

I mean calling Kita iffy for just saying hey? Hmmmm....what is the norm for him? That seems odd at face value, and not knowing him at all.


I couldn't give you kitas meta or try to if i wanted. I've only played one game with him so not sure.

Why do you not want your opinions to lead town? What are some of your other reads so far?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:31 GMT
#395
hts ninja'd me, finish readingand tell me what you think afterwards
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:35 GMT
#402
On December 09 2014 09:31 batsnacks wrote:
HTS is looking awful

There is no way she:

1. agrees with HF
2. thinks froggy is null
3. thinks bunnies is scummy
4. agrees with what bunnies said


This post is bad, bats is probably scum
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:36 GMT
#405
On December 09 2014 09:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats is town


Tell me why
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:38 GMT
#411
On December 09 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager.

this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all

I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town.

GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion?


Nope because I didn't read anything from the thread. Because I'm bored.

Do you?


I am town GB, but i am unable to give you a present currently if you are good i can share one of my many toys later on as when i was a child i was taught to share if i get one that is.

You should really read the thread and are you blue gb seirously/
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:40 GMT
#416
On December 09 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:35 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:31 batsnacks wrote:
HTS is looking awful

There is no way she:

1. agrees with HF
2. thinks froggy is null
3. thinks bunnies is scummy
4. agrees with what bunnies said


This post is bad, bats is probably scum


What's bad about it damdred, that's actually what HTS believes?


Is vivax scum then?

He agrees with bunnies onsomething
frogs post is probably Null
He agrees with HF on things
He things bunnies is scum

Not sure what you even try to accomplish with this as several people in the thread have this stance
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:44 GMT
#423
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:49 GMT
#428
On December 09 2014 09:48 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:34 The_Templar wrote:
Santa, upon arriving in America, noted the return of several people to their youthful roots. Two of them, Alakaslam, and ritoky, had made themselves comfortable on a nearby bench while a few others continued to argue pointlessly over the exact wording of their previous conversations. The NSA was delighted. Alakaslam had made himself Calvin, the boy that had asked Santa to alter his Nice list to include him. Indeed, Santa had quite a file on Calvin.

Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument!

Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered?

On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Lmao. Okay, Templar top town for the rst of the day. I don't even care he voted me.That was the best thing I have evver read.

As for being naughty on my date... well well well. We will just have to see;)

He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:

Templar Town
Damdred Town
Slam semitownie

Those I need to look more at:
HF
Vivax
Kelsier

Iffy:
Froggy
Kita (I expected more than just hey)
Fecal

I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.

HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.

tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.

Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow!


On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason?

Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps?

Santa also updated his list on the way to America.

Nice:

Koshi
Half the Sky
Oatsmaster
kitaman27
Damdred
rsoultin
froggynoddy
kushm4sta
sicklucker
Alakaslam
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi
The_Templar
Xatalos
LightningStrike
liancourt
batsnacks
ritoky
Fecalfeast
Holyflare
GlowingBear
LoneMeow
Trfel
Tubesock
KelsierSC
27ninjabunnies

Naughty:

27ninjabunnies


Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started
Underlined: Santa/[Not]SanTa must investigate further
Bold: Remains on the list for some time.
Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list
None: New on the list

However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study.


A huge list post just to say you have a single scumread.
Fluff. Obviously trying to look contributive and effortful.

Second scum was found.

Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person.

There is plenty of information in that fluff.

Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully.


plenty of summary information, and not a whole lot of pushing your scum reads/leaning scum reads.

this also seems like a bit too defensive of a response especially considering who is criticizing you


So ritoky, what do you think about what vivax said about you? Why aren't you pushing your scum reads really?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:50 GMT
#429
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


Why don't you like hts

(my posts are getting ate up this makes me sad)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:56 GMT
#441
As I am about to go pick up my wife from work I will be absent for some time now, as such I will leave a horrible list post for people to destroy while I am gone.

Town:
HF
Slam
Vivax

Tentative town:
Templars
Ritoky
Kel

Null:
GB
FF
HTS

Leaning SCUM:
Froggy
Bats
27NB
SL
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 02:28 GMT
#522
On December 09 2014 10:47 KelsierSC wrote:
It isn't false though. Hts and nb dud agree, hts due then call nb scummy.

the instant gut reaction is that , that is scummy. Bats had that reaction, i had the same reaction.

if you analyse deeper then yeh it doesn't make hts scummy for that reason at least. But does it make bats scum? Not in my eyes


I think we have a different interpretation of events,HTS will have to clarify and go into greater detail her agreement with NB. However I will say that you can agree with someone who is acting scummy that something is null (read on frog) and it totally not be alignment indicative. Like a few games ago I rolled scum and posted town reads null reads etc., town GB runs up and be like I AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR SAYING BUT YOU ARE SO SCUMMY CAUSE OF REASONS. Then GB votes me, this does not automatically make what GB did scummy in that situation, and it doesn't make what hts did then scummy. Agreeing with someone about a read should not totally sway our perception on if someone is scummy or not is what i'm getting at.

However bats few followup responses did not look horrible at this point.

RS is in my town circle today.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 02:30 GMT
#525
On December 09 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Would lynch sicklucker.


Who else would go to the flaming tree of death this day
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 03:02 GMT
#569
On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote:
Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present.

Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town.

Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in.


SL did notice my role droppings in the thread, I applaud that.

However I do not have a present to give, I think its random who gets them i'm just a named VT . However if i get a present i might pass it to someone or open it we will see.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 03:15 GMT
#585
HF is top town basically and for GB yes i'm giving you a tentative town read currently though the thing about slam can't be read till later and then try to read him is interesting but its not damning you aren't being lazy thats a good thing.

Obi is interesting here but i can't tell if hes being town here or lurky scum here.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 06:12 GMT
#615
Thoughts about what kit posted about NB and then voting him some time later
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 06:43 GMT
#617
Said its a weak scum read in the post.

votes an hour later? No reap thoughts?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 16:49 GMT
#863
Morning guys I overslept by 6 hours and missed work so took a sick day haha. Anyway just caught up.

I like koshi currently, I somewhat like oats. Kush is Kish again I guess probably town. Ows is being useless and data getting town reads which I'm hesitant to agree with.

I actually kinda like LS right now

obviously don't like loan though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 17:03 GMT
#866
Well tube do you believe template role claim?
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