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we're in a world where GB accuses you of scum, but doesn't want vig to shoot you...GB so scummy yes and oh look he's accusing you of being scum again
Rito claiming to have a shot and then claiming to have been Rbed...how convenient, and oh look he doesnt say who he shot surprise surprise
HF votes were so close and if any mafia were on the kel wagon they could have just jumped wagon and voted you to get a mislynch...bu tthey didn't, does that mean the kel wagon was full of pure town??? or does it mean you were also mafia and have a slighlty better role than kel like scum RB???
Oh and rito claims to have been RBed then what happened to obi's vig shot? Did that get RBed too??? LOL
Is a world possible where all 3 are scum...maybe. Who knows?
Someone explain to me an ideal world because i cannot think straight because HF hasn't flipped and it's giving me paranoia seriously.
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On December 15 2014 16:35 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, I don't see a way that ritoky and vig are both town and both RBd, unless the medic chose to protect ritoky from getting NKd and didn't realize that their power also acts as a RB...or didn't care that their power also acts as a RB.
Though this would apply to a ritoky of any alignment.
Obviously the medic didn't visit the vig.
Mafia power roles seem a bit weak though. Potentially could be a godfather with the amount of disgruntled there were which would make him quite powerful.
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Na your horrible for not doing it imo but their is a chance you didnt and we can confirm you tormorow so I wont vote you. Im back to voting froggy ff is probably green checked plz dont kill him.
If holy is town the mafia team has to be something like this
ksc
oats
templar
hts/ lian
froggy, with a few possible unconfirmed.
If we can confirm holy or anyone else tomorrow I have auto so I dont want to kill him.
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I'm not horrible I'm good at this game and don't want to die to rng.
Lian, mafia could have been in people defending me and so switching to me would look extremely terrible. They could also already be on my wagon or they could just be an afker like oats.
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...why are you so certain GB is not scum, SL?
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Ya "they" could be im not gonna ignore it but I dont think mafia hard aligns like that. Everything about their present actions is so bad at mafia tho I dont see why you cant see that. Mafia just doesint say they have presents very often which is why im considering a world were neither are.
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On December 15 2014 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 13:55 ritoky wrote:On December 15 2014 13:53 LightningStrike wrote:On December 15 2014 13:52 GlowingBear wrote:
LOL Did you give rito your present? If so why did you give it to him? he is the one who claimed to give it to me after i said i was gonna open it....like...where u been? In N Out and looking at other stuff for meta reaons sorry 
+1 best food
Best food
Absolutely town now
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On December 15 2014 16:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not horrible I'm good at this game and don't want to die to rng.
Lian, mafia could have been in people defending me and so switching to me would look extremely terrible. They could also already be on my wagon or they could just be an afker like oats.
This is endless WIFOM and you know it HF
i didn't want this kind of WIFOM discussion today so I wanted you to flip during the night.
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Moving on. Okay...
My best theory is that ritoky of whichever alignment was probably RBd/protected by medic.
We believe that the branch manager accounted for 1 KS night 1...
We believe, knowing that there was a vig that he took a shot
We know that mafia has two KPs
Damdred may have been killed by a present, but also by mafia/vig
So without the branch manager taking shots...
There should have been two KPs (there were), a vig shot (probably blocked) and a final shot from either a present's gift or the third mafia KP, depending on which killed Damdred
So it follows that ritoky actually did have the present with the KS or is mafia with a KS as part of his role, then was probably protected/RBd by the medic
Am I understanding the mechanics properly?
I can legit see in this scenario a town ritoky, claiming the present early, drawing the shot from the mafia, and the medic protecting him. Like I said, if mafia isn't sure about what's in the present and doesn't want to die, they can set this up to see where it goes and plan on taking ritoky out N2. If they have KSs and already know everyone's alignment, being rid of the presents entirely or using them to kill town is the most to their advantage, especially since present giving is anonymous.
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There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.
I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.
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On December 15 2014 16:53 liancourt wrote:
There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.
I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.
Him dying really doesint help me? How does it help you? Just because he dies town wont mean gb an ritoky are for sure scum and I already know who his mafia team mates would be. mostly lurkers...
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On December 15 2014 16:53 liancourt wrote:
There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.
I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.
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On December 15 2014 16:50 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 16:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not horrible I'm good at this game and don't want to die to rng.
Lian, mafia could have been in people defending me and so switching to me would look extremely terrible. They could also already be on my wagon or they could just be an afker like oats. This is endless WIFOM and you know it HF i didn't want this kind of WIFOM discussion today so I wanted you to flip during the night.
Which is why the first thing i told you to do was vote me -.- are you just not reading that? Why on earth do you think I claimed a role if not to draw a shot and end the wifom. Leaving me alive is the ULTIMATE wifom mafia could possibly do because it ensures a mislynch and another day of gb etc skating by with 1 read the entire game.
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Although.
Pretty sure
Of nothing actually Hijole srs
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Well @GB.
I reiterate my question, and hopefully others will too if they're curious (and not sure why they wouldn't be).
Why not have the vig shoot your top scum read? And why couldn't you answer this question during the night phase?
Toodles, folks. Really am going to bed tonight. Have to work tomorrow @.@.
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*rutin
Brass manager didnt kill anyone night 1 because no one claimed that specific role. It would seem they have a Mass Murderer as well with a bullet left.
Veg likely shot kush and wasted his bullet, the confirmed veg was asking are veg to shoot him...
Its not 100% that dandre died but its so likely that you have to go into this thinking that. Mafia wont go killing claimed vt's night 1 they role hunt.
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On December 15 2014 16:53 liancourt wrote:
There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.
I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.
This is also silly. You can just branch your discussion into 2 themes. 1 where i flip mafia and 1 where i flip town. Stop giving excuses to not participate though. There's also reads that can be given independent of my alignment you know like a normal mafia game
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On December 15 2014 17:01 sicklucker wrote:
*rutin
Brass manager didnt kill anyone night 1 because no one claimed that specific role. It would seem they have a Mass Murderer as well with a bullet left.
Veg likely shot kush and wasted his bullet, the confirmed veg was asking are veg to shoot him...
Its not 100% that dandre died but its so likely that you have to go into this thinking that. Mafia wont go killing claimed vt's night 1 they role hunt.
So you're saying vig/marley/present/2kps.
Doesn't really change the medic theory any.
I'm not sold on the death present, though. If we all agree mafia prob doesn't want to open presents, why not send them to town to open as guinea pigs and just kill them if the present doesn't? No reason to kill ritoky who said he'd open the present, Damdred could pass it on.
That means there are possibly 3kps that mafia has. -shrugs- Which suits your mass murderer theory. Otherwise they wouldn't need a mass murderer for what happened on N1.
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