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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 15 2014 07:05 GMT
#3221
Im not sure when you recieve presents because I never got one but I do know from reading that you open them at night like a night action (then use them the next night)

Also you claim vt. A vt always opens the present especially when the kill present is out of play like your not this bad.

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 15 2014 07:07 GMT
#3222
On December 15 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I also sent my present out yesterday. Happy birthday.


You're misreading, either accidentally or on purpose, and ignoring my case which actually is not a bad friggin case. Whatevs.

In my mind you're lackey scum or donkey town, and I'm tired of wasting my time on you. Going to bed now.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2014 07:07 GMT
#3223
On December 15 2014 15:58 liancourt wrote:
for crying out loud HF needs to flip so we can analyze what the hell was going on day 2.

If he's town mafia were on his train.

If he's scum then we have to factor in tube and ff and why ppl moved off of tube to vote ff and then moved to kel.

Xatalos, Half the Sky: tube to ff to kel
sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast: tube to hf
vivax: ff to hf
slam, tube: kel to hf to ff to kel

lian: kel
frog, LS: tube
GB, bats: HF
HF, kel: ff
oats: vivax

this is how ppl roughly moved their votes 3 hrs before deadline yesterday.

HF flipping will give us tons of info.




This is perfectly fine and exactly what I just told you to do. So ignore me and find actual mafia please. Talking about me isn't going to change anything other than give mafia an easy topic to wifom about. Lynch me off, find out I'm town but continue to talk about relevant topics instead.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 15 2014 07:08 GMT
#3224
On December 15 2014 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 16:01 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over


Or


Give it to someone so it's not completely lost??

How many brain cells are you missing there buddy


Regardless of the sequence of events you had the present in your possession for one night. Your vt why did you not open it? Why did you send it to someone else that could be mafia, or could die and we lose the ability. Its so bad of a vt play, your not this bad your mafia.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 15 2014 07:10 GMT
#3225
On December 09 2014 19:51 Palmar wrote:
Clarificaation

Passing presents is a DAY action. It is a mandatory action (Gift will be RNGd if no target is selected).
Opening a present is a NIGHT action. If not opened the holder must then pass it the following day.

This means that the people who randomly received the presents today, will not get a chance to open them. Also, all aspects of the gift giving process is anonymous. They cannot be tracked, watched, roleblocked, and no one is ever notified of anything except receiving a gift.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2014 07:12 GMT
#3226
On December 15 2014 16:08 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
On December 15 2014 16:01 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over


Or


Give it to someone so it's not completely lost??

How many brain cells are you missing there buddy


Regardless of the sequence of events you had the present in your possession for one night. Your vt why did you not open it? Why did you send it to someone else that could be mafia, or could die and we lose the ability. Its so bad of a vt play, your not this bad your mafia.


I had the present on n1 and I didn't want to die??? Like i can't even understand you here you're being intentionally dumb. I gave it to someone that I thought might actually be town and wouldn't be shot. I was clearly going to die one way or another and it would be a massive waste. You're telling me I should have kept it and opened it n2 and also should hope to survive till day 4 when everyone in this game basically wants to lynch me today???
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 15 2014 07:13 GMT
#3227
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:15 GMT
#3228
day 1 A decides to send present to B
night 1 B receives present and decide to open it
day 2 B dies

day 1 A decides to send present to B
night 1 B receives present and decide to open it
day 2 B gets an action
night 2 B acts out action
day 3 B says action was RBed

day 1 A decides to send present to B
night 1 B receives present and decide not to open
day 2 B decides to send it to C
night 2 C receives present and decides to???
day 3 C ???
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:16 GMT
#3229
understand now?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 15 2014 07:18 GMT
#3230
On December 15 2014 16:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 16:08 sicklucker wrote:
On December 15 2014 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
On December 15 2014 16:01 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over


Or


Give it to someone so it's not completely lost??

How many brain cells are you missing there buddy


Regardless of the sequence of events you had the present in your possession for one night. Your vt why did you not open it? Why did you send it to someone else that could be mafia, or could die and we lose the ability. Its so bad of a vt play, your not this bad your mafia.


I had the present on n1 and I didn't want to die??? Like i can't even understand you here you're being intentionally dumb. I gave it to someone that I thought might actually be town and wouldn't be shot. I was clearly going to die one way or another and it would be a massive waste. You're telling me I should have kept it and opened it n2 and also should hope to survive till day 4 when everyone in this game basically wants to lynch me today???


Ok if it was night 1 (feel like your storys changing) That means someone should have checks today. So whoever you sent the present to should have checks and can verify your story. who did you send it too? Let me double check before you expose the person but I think they should have the checks already
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2014 07:19 GMT
#3231
On December 15 2014 16:13 sicklucker wrote:
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play.


A) I'm not terrible at reading town people

B) you're saying i should have used it even though I am the highest likelihood person of dying but i shouldn't send it to someone i think may have been town because they COULD die??
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:20 GMT
#3232
vote HF end the day have night come
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2014 07:22 GMT
#3233
On December 15 2014 16:20 liancourt wrote:
vote HF end the day have night come


So we're just going to sit here for 48 hours twiddling our thumbs? Why not even comment on what i said about ritoky? There's absolutely no way he is town and there's absolutely no way we are mafia together yet you still want to vote me off instead of discuss that.

It's funny that you even want to kill both of us.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 15 2014 07:23 GMT
#3234
On December 15 2014 16:20 liancourt wrote:
vote HF end the day have night come


I'd like to think the town in this game are intelligent enough to actually understand how scummy the main opponents to HF have been playing, particularly GB (and SL???) so that we can keep our town, but I agree, lian.

If they're not, they're not. Let's get the damn drama over-with. (I will hold out hope until closer to lynching time, however.)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 15 2014 07:23 GMT
#3235
On December 15 2014 16:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 16:13 sicklucker wrote:
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play.


A) I'm not terrible at reading town people

B) you're saying i should have used it even though I am the highest likelihood person of dying but i shouldn't send it to someone i think may have been town because they COULD die??


IF YOU DIE IN THE NIGHT YOU DIE WITH THE PRESENT , so a vt would open it regardless. You either made a donkey play or are lieing. With that being said if you are town only a town would send a town a present, so if we can confirm that person as town we confirm two towns so please dont role over and die.....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2014 07:27 GMT
#3236
Although if ritoky is mafia then his vig present claim is pretty ridiculous because why wouldn't he use it last night as mafia for a free kp? Especially if they are rbing obi that would just auto set him up today to be lynched by claiming to be rb'd because obi looks super obviously like the vig to them with the lm comments.

There's also the chance that he didn't open the present but if that were the case he super gambled that he got the vig shot and that the other present was the role check.


I dunno what's going on here.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 15 2014 07:28 GMT
#3237
Well, this is kinda clever.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2014 07:30 GMT
#3238
On December 15 2014 16:23 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 16:19 Holyflare wrote:
On December 15 2014 16:13 sicklucker wrote:
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play.


A) I'm not terrible at reading town people

B) you're saying i should have used it even though I am the highest likelihood person of dying but i shouldn't send it to someone i think may have been town because they COULD die??


IF YOU DIE IN THE NIGHT YOU DIE WITH THE PRESENT , so a vt would open it regardless. You either made a donkey play or are lieing. With that being said if you are town only a town would send a town a present, so if we can confirm that person as town we confirm two towns so please dont role over and die.....



You're so clueless it's ridiculous. I'm never going to open something where i have a 1/3 chance of dying over trying to solve the game myself. Never ever ever ever in a million years.

I'm also most definitely not rolling over and dying i literally just gave super solid reads which you dismissed and talked about presents instead.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 15 2014 07:34 GMT
#3239
Although like i just posted my ritoky read may be a little flawed now
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 15 2014 07:35 GMT
#3240
Yeah, I don't see a way that ritoky and vig are both town and both RBd, unless the medic chose to protect ritoky from getting NKd and didn't realize that their power also acts as a RB...or didn't care that their power also acts as a RB.

Though this would apply to a ritoky of any alignment.

Obviously the medic didn't visit the vig.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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