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On December 14 2014 07:05 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 06:59 Xatalos wrote:On December 14 2014 06:44 rsoultin wrote:
@Xata
Dude, you haven't wanted to lynch KSC all game. Trfel brought some good points against him. Do you have comments? Or a defense for KSC? Cause if not he's likely to be lynched.
I'll be honest, you're the sole reason I haven't switched over to him already. Damn I can't really focus well right now. Anyways I looked at the case briefly earlier and I think KSC explained the last point decently during N1. I'll look at it again as soon as I can. I can lynch KSC over HF/SL though if it comes down to it. you said earlier why we should vote kel and said that kel didnt have enough votes. now we have enough votes. Why aren't you voting him??? he is a contender for lynch and yet you are still voting for ff
When did I ever push KSC to be lynched? It was the opposite. I'll go look at the case now though
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Ok, here's my reponse to GlowingBear's case.
I don't really like reading too much into people's entrances. Partly because they are really easy to pick apart, partly because I'm really bad at entering a thread myself. His post doesn't say much of anything, but it does provide good advice to people and a standard to hold him to later (which he hasn't entirely met, as many of his posts are in fact pretty useless, but it's next to impossible to play Mafia with zero wastes posts). I'll leave Holyflare as null for this point.
I believe batsnacks did the same thing, picking on Half the Sky while ignoring Vivax for the same argument. It isn't inherently mafia. Though it is suspicious that he goes after 27ninjabunnies so aggressively without much reasoning to back it (to be fair it is early in the game, but still). Perhaps he is fishing for a reaction, but he never wavered at all.
Being suspicious of the wasted voters seems weird. Same with his counter push on ritoky, it seems more forced and a reaction to being pressured. Still though, he obviously can't be super suspicious of everyone with a wasted vote, as that is way too many. This doesn't provide a scumread on froggynoddy for the wasted vote, so I don't think there is much contradiction there. It doesn't feel conclusive, but it does seem suspicious.
The last point is pretty funny.
In the end, I'm not completely sold. It's a good case and I do like it, but I think that KelsierSC seems a bit more likely to be mafia than Holyflare. I will switch vote to Holyflare if that will cause him to be lynched instead of Fecalfeast, but otherwise KelsierSC seems like the best vote for now.
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On December 14 2014 07:08 liancourt wrote:
temp why are u still on tube when thread sentiment is clearly on the 3 wagons: kel, ff, hf
are you going to let your vote be wasted like scum?
My vote is on HF.
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On December 14 2014 07:07 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, Xata.
^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.
Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)
##unvote FF
##vote KSC Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion. I thought you said that havoc and confusion was bad for mafia. What happened there?
Where?
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On December 14 2014 07:09 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:05 liancourt wrote:On December 14 2014 06:59 Xatalos wrote:On December 14 2014 06:44 rsoultin wrote:
@Xata
Dude, you haven't wanted to lynch KSC all game. Trfel brought some good points against him. Do you have comments? Or a defense for KSC? Cause if not he's likely to be lynched.
I'll be honest, you're the sole reason I haven't switched over to him already. Damn I can't really focus well right now. Anyways I looked at the case briefly earlier and I think KSC explained the last point decently during N1. I'll look at it again as soon as I can. I can lynch KSC over HF/SL though if it comes down to it. you said earlier why we should vote kel and said that kel didnt have enough votes. now we have enough votes. Why aren't you voting him??? he is a contender for lynch and yet you are still voting for ff When did I ever push KSC to be lynched? It was the opposite. I'll go look at the case now though
no i asked u to vote kel and u said he doesn't have enough votes and isnt a contender for lynch
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On December 14 2014 07:09 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:08 liancourt wrote:
temp why are u still on tube when thread sentiment is clearly on the 3 wagons: kel, ff, hf
are you going to let your vote be wasted like scum? My vote is on HF.
and yet, he's trying hard to push me. Why isn't he on me?
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On December 14 2014 07:10 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:07 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, Xata.
^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.
Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)
##unvote FF
##vote KSC Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion. I thought you said that havoc and confusion was bad for mafia. What happened there? Where?
I misread a small part of your case, actually.
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On December 14 2014 07:11 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:09 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:08 liancourt wrote:
temp why are u still on tube when thread sentiment is clearly on the 3 wagons: kel, ff, hf
are you going to let your vote be wasted like scum? My vote is on HF. and yet, he's trying hard to push me. Why isn't he on me?
Because, unfortunately, nobody wants to lynch you.
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On December 14 2014 07:12 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:10 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:07 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, Xata.
^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.
Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)
##unvote FF
##vote KSC Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion. I thought you said that havoc and confusion was bad for mafia. What happened there? Where? I misread a small part of your case, actually.
So, you're trying to agree with me now like I'm town?
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On December 14 2014 07:14 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:12 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:10 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:07 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, Xata.
^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.
Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)
##unvote FF
##vote KSC Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion. I thought you said that havoc and confusion was bad for mafia. What happened there? Where? I misread a small part of your case, actually. So, you're trying to agree with me now like I'm town?
Wtf? No. I saw that you were disrupting the people you thought were mafia and I thought that meant that you thought it was pro-town to do so.
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On December 14 2014 07:13 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:11 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:09 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:08 liancourt wrote:
temp why are u still on tube when thread sentiment is clearly on the 3 wagons: kel, ff, hf
are you going to let your vote be wasted like scum? My vote is on HF. and yet, he's trying hard to push me. Why isn't he on me? Because, unfortunately, nobody wants to lynch you.
Didn't you say earlier that your only interactions with Kelsier were friendly because he was friendly? So, like is that why you are on HF?
I can go either way on this. You know both will flip mafia. Which one is easier to sheep a bus and look town? Hmm.
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ppl better not jump wagons now
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On December 14 2014 07:17 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:14 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:12 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:10 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:07 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:06 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:02 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, Xata.
^ One of the only people consistently making sense around here and not getting their panties in a bunch.
Gonna echo Templar at ye there Tube. He said your wild determination was townie, not your reads. (Thus why I agreed with him. I don't agree with your reads, either, lol)
##unvote FF
##vote KSC Well, sorry. But I TRULY feel that if you don't think my reads are right, you can not let me live even as town. A bad town causes FAR too much havoc and confusion. I thought you said that havoc and confusion was bad for mafia. What happened there? Where? I misread a small part of your case, actually. So, you're trying to agree with me now like I'm town? Wtf? No. I saw that you were disrupting the people you thought were mafia and I thought that meant that you thought it was pro-town to do so.
Oh yes. So, If mafia can all talk amongst themselves, it's pretty reasonable they would develop a plan. I have a pretty good case that I was being underestimated by everyone. It would be pretty easy to disrupt any plans that mafia devised if I could find them in time.
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On December 14 2014 07:18 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:13 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:11 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:09 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:08 liancourt wrote:
temp why are u still on tube when thread sentiment is clearly on the 3 wagons: kel, ff, hf
are you going to let your vote be wasted like scum? My vote is on HF. and yet, he's trying hard to push me. Why isn't he on me? Because, unfortunately, nobody wants to lynch you. Didn't you say earlier that your only interactions with Kelsier were friendly because he was friendly? So, like is that why you are on HF? I can go either way on this. You know both will flip mafia. Which one is easier to sheep a bus and look town? Hmm.
I'm on HF because GB's case convinced me. I do not know that both will flip mafia so yes, it does matter. Nice try.
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On December 14 2014 07:22 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 07:18 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:13 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:11 Tubesock wrote:On December 14 2014 07:09 The_Templar wrote:On December 14 2014 07:08 liancourt wrote:
temp why are u still on tube when thread sentiment is clearly on the 3 wagons: kel, ff, hf
are you going to let your vote be wasted like scum? My vote is on HF. and yet, he's trying hard to push me. Why isn't he on me? Because, unfortunately, nobody wants to lynch you. Didn't you say earlier that your only interactions with Kelsier were friendly because he was friendly? So, like is that why you are on HF? I can go either way on this. You know both will flip mafia. Which one is easier to sheep a bus and look town? Hmm. I'm on HF because GB's case convinced me. I do not know that both will flip mafia so yes, it does matter. Nice try.
Fair enough.
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Canada11355 Posts
heading to work really soon, any objections to me staying on HF?
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Link big cases pls.
Can't find them on phone.
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On December 14 2014 07:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
heading to work really soon, any objections to me staying on HF?
I do. Me or Kel. Take your pick.
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Well, I can see the appeal in that KSC case. Not sure about the ritoky point on its own since KSC explained that decently I think, but it seems like there's a larger theme of weird read changes during the game for him. It lends credibility to the idea that he's making stuff up. Forgetting several things and making a meta scumread without apparently knowing much about that particular meta. I think it's a decent lynch at least compared to some like HF/SL (and perhaps Tube too). It should also be somewhat telling of FF's alignment so it's not too bad.
##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC
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On December 14 2014 07:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Link big cases pls.
Can't find them on phone.
Which one?
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