• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:27
CET 16:27
KST 00:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Path of Exile [Game] Osu!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2116 users

TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 126

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 124 125 126 127 128 265 Next
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 13 2014 21:43 GMT
#2501
On December 14 2014 06:41 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 06:39 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:38 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:37 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:23 Tubesock wrote:
I'll vote for any of my 6. I went with Slam, because I trust him. I'm just as happy going to HF, or Kels. Hell, people can get back on my wagon. That would lend more credibility to my case. Way more than our bouncing around does.

I listed my mafia list as a order of death preference. That would mean I feel the strongest about Sicklucker and the weakest about LightningStrike.

I've done nothing but push Sicklucker for the last 2 hours. Like CRAZY push.

FF is not on your six.


He is my 6.5 though. And Kelsier is a MUCH better target.

Oh yeah, and you've pushed SL without voting him. Sick play.


Ah, trying to get me to change more vote more? I'm not going to play that game anymore. There can only be two wagons now. It's either me or Kelsier.

And no there can't be only two wagons. HF looks worse than Kelsier right now.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 13 2014 21:44 GMT
#2502
Hf, vivax, kc, hts, rsoultin voting ff. If im right thats possibly 3 or 4 of your mafia right there
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 13 2014 21:44 GMT
#2503
chill GB, 1 takes a lot longer to respond to than the other

Re GB's case on HF:

1) I think this point is okay at best, it shows an instance of HF acting contrary to what he is saying but in and of itself it is not a compelling reason to read someone scum.

2) I really dislike all of your stuff surrounding froggynoddy, mainly because the guy is a low volume poster who I have 0 read on and often forget even exists. So it is hard for me to gauge the situation when I have no fucking clue about 1 of the parties involved. More about this point in 4.

However, I completely agree with your point about the uneven criticism of 27nb and vivax, and HF giving 1 a free pass but not the other. HF defended against it earlier claiming they did completely different things, but I just feel he was characterizing similar play differently for a convenient defense.

3) Fine with this point, think it is quality.

4) Again froggynoddy, I just don't see these points. Like, read HFs post, even he seems confused about his read on Froggynoddy: "kiiiiiiiiiiinda towny/idunno". I think you're characterizing him in this instance as having a much stronger read than he actually has, and criticizing him for having that fictitious read. Don't like these points surrounding froggynoddy.

5) I wouldn't call it "discrediting you to try to survive" since he had 0 vote pressure at the time, but I understand the point and yes he is being inconsistent/contradictory.

Remove froggynoddy and I think it is an okay case. I still think the most compelling thing about HF is what I pointed out, which he is doing again this phase. He slaps his vote on an early scum read, leaves it there all phase. Then in the thread he pushes on a bunch of targets and follows through on it with 0 vote pressure. Town HF follows his pushes with vote pressure.

That said, deciding which of kels, HF, FF is the most likely to flip scum atm. It is seriously christmas for me, my top 3 scum are the top 3 lynch candidates.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 13 2014 21:44 GMT
#2504
@Xata

Dude, you haven't wanted to lynch KSC all game. Trfel brought some good points against him. Do you have comments? Or a defense for KSC? Cause if not he's likely to be lynched.

I'll be honest, you're the sole reason I haven't switched over to him already.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 13 2014 21:45 GMT
#2505
Bat and templar if we cant get holy lynched make sure we switch to ksc not ff. I think thats the best play
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 21:46 GMT
#2506
Get back to HF, ff.
I'm adorable.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 13 2014 21:47 GMT
#2507
On December 14 2014 06:39 GlowingBear wrote:
FF, you have my blessing. Although people are lunching a question mark over obvious mafia.

I'm not really caring right now. I'm sure my case is spot on. Nobody who tried to deflect it succeeded properly. There is not counter argument for the things I've said.


GB you can't possibly read HF.

His scum game is immaculate. Like the hearthstone game he played townie as townie can be.

The only thing that bugs me is that he has been totally underwhelming.

Nothing comes to mind when I think of HF this game. He has not been as impactful as previous games for sure and the IRL excuse that Hf's in belgium...sure watever, but today I really want this kel lynch over HF or FF.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 21:48 GMT
#2508
On December 14 2014 06:43 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 06:41 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:39 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:38 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:37 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:23 Tubesock wrote:
I'll vote for any of my 6. I went with Slam, because I trust him. I'm just as happy going to HF, or Kels. Hell, people can get back on my wagon. That would lend more credibility to my case. Way more than our bouncing around does.

I listed my mafia list as a order of death preference. That would mean I feel the strongest about Sicklucker and the weakest about LightningStrike.

I've done nothing but push Sicklucker for the last 2 hours. Like CRAZY push.

FF is not on your six.


He is my 6.5 though. And Kelsier is a MUCH better target.

Oh yeah, and you've pushed SL without voting him. Sick play.


Ah, trying to get me to change more vote more? I'm not going to play that game anymore. There can only be two wagons now. It's either me or Kelsier.

I'm not trying to get you to change your vote again. But you can't possibly be pushing SL without ever voting him or convincing anyone to vote him. You aren't getting anything done with that and you're only going off the weak scum (or scummish) reads you have that happen to intersect with a bunch of other scum reads.


Really? for the last two hours I SPAMMED about how we are not evaluating Sicklucker properly and you think that's not pushing? It created MASS CHAOS. You can't know if it's from a town perspective or a mafia one until I flip.

You are doubting me? But yet you are not on me? Why are you not attacking anyone else? you're on HF. When have you ever even HINTED he was in your sights. But yet, you are here, questioning me AND VOTING HIM????
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 13 2014 21:48 GMT
#2509
On December 14 2014 06:45 sicklucker wrote:
Bat and templar if we cant get holy lynched make sure we switch to ksc not ff. I think thats the best play

Not sure about that. Tubesock is my top scum right now and he insists on lynching either himself or KSC which makes me think they're not both mafia. That could be a play but I doubt it.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 21:49 GMT
#2510
On December 14 2014 06:44 ritoky wrote:
chill GB, 1 takes a lot longer to respond to than the other

Re GB's case on HF:

1) I think this point is okay at best, it shows an instance of HF acting contrary to what he is saying but in and of itself it is not a compelling reason to read someone scum.

2) I really dislike all of your stuff surrounding froggynoddy, mainly because the guy is a low volume poster who I have 0 read on and often forget even exists. So it is hard for me to gauge the situation when I have no fucking clue about 1 of the parties involved. More about this point in 4.

However, I completely agree with your point about the uneven criticism of 27nb and vivax, and HF giving 1 a free pass but not the other. HF defended against it earlier claiming they did completely different things, but I just feel he was characterizing similar play differently for a convenient defense.

3) Fine with this point, think it is quality.

4) Again froggynoddy, I just don't see these points. Like, read HFs post, even he seems confused about his read on Froggynoddy: "kiiiiiiiiiiinda towny/idunno". I think you're characterizing him in this instance as having a much stronger read than he actually has, and criticizing him for having that fictitious read. Don't like these points surrounding froggynoddy.

5) I wouldn't call it "discrediting you to try to survive" since he had 0 vote pressure at the time, but I understand the point and yes he is being inconsistent/contradictory.

Remove froggynoddy and I think it is an okay case. I still think the most compelling thing about HF is what I pointed out, which he is doing again this phase. He slaps his vote on an early scum read, leaves it there all phase. Then in the thread he pushes on a bunch of targets and follows through on it with 0 vote pressure. Town HF follows his pushes with vote pressure.

That said, deciding which of kels, HF, FF is the most likely to flip scum atm. It is seriously christmas for me, my top 3 scum are the top 3 lynch candidates.


I'll give you a motive to lynch HF first: he was never lynched as mafia before.

Ta-daaaa!!
I'm adorable.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 13 2014 21:49 GMT
#2511
Templar, you have been on me since the beginning of day 2. AND JUST NOW YOU VOTE OFF ME WHEN I SPAM AND DROP HUGE READS???

Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 13 2014 21:49 GMT
#2512
I'm checking Kelsier's filter one more time for the latter arguments that Trfel filtered. But it really is a compelling case otherwise.

Fecal, I'm willing to give you a chance if you can at least answer the issues we had with you, aside from inactivity. If you're town, you need to do some work for the town, because we need all the help we can get right now especially the vets.

I just want to get this right, we really need a scum down.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 13 2014 21:49 GMT
#2513
On December 14 2014 06:35 Tubesock wrote:
My last vote. ## Keslier.

LEt's make this easier. Either Vote KelsierSC or Tubesock. No one else.

GB Shape up. You were being stubborn, and I convinced you once. IF you really believe what I said, then you know that Kels is also a good lynch. WHen he pops mafia, it will also clear you.


Like are you claiming mafia partner with holy? Your shit just doesint make sense. Your also not the lynch here apparently its ksc vs holy vs ff.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 13 2014 21:50 GMT
#2514
On December 14 2014 06:45 sicklucker wrote:
Bat and templar if we cant get holy lynched make sure we switch to ksc not ff. I think thats the best play


I'm going to get so much shit for this if HF flips town... I really need to learn when to just stfu.

On December 14 2014 05:13 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 05:12 Tubesock wrote:
HF is the brains and their leader. HE's freaking AMAZING.


If you don't vote HF I'm switching my vote to you.

On December 14 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote:
I can't vote HF if a FF lynch is possible.

The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 13 2014 21:50 GMT
#2515
On December 14 2014 06:48 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 06:43 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:41 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:39 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:38 Tubesock wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:37 The_Templar wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:23 Tubesock wrote:
I'll vote for any of my 6. I went with Slam, because I trust him. I'm just as happy going to HF, or Kels. Hell, people can get back on my wagon. That would lend more credibility to my case. Way more than our bouncing around does.

I listed my mafia list as a order of death preference. That would mean I feel the strongest about Sicklucker and the weakest about LightningStrike.

I've done nothing but push Sicklucker for the last 2 hours. Like CRAZY push.

FF is not on your six.


He is my 6.5 though. And Kelsier is a MUCH better target.

Oh yeah, and you've pushed SL without voting him. Sick play.


Ah, trying to get me to change more vote more? I'm not going to play that game anymore. There can only be two wagons now. It's either me or Kelsier.

I'm not trying to get you to change your vote again. But you can't possibly be pushing SL without ever voting him or convincing anyone to vote him. You aren't getting anything done with that and you're only going off the weak scum (or scummish) reads you have that happen to intersect with a bunch of other scum reads.


Really? for the last two hours I SPAMMED about how we are not evaluating Sicklucker properly and you think that's not pushing? It created MASS CHAOS. You can't know if it's from a town perspective or a mafia one until I flip.

You are doubting me? But yet you are not on me? Why are you not attacking anyone else? you're on HF. When have you ever even HINTED he was in your sights. But yet, you are here, questioning me AND VOTING HIM????

I switched because of GB's case.
The difference between you on SL and GB on HF is that you never actually said anything remotely "VOTE SL OR YOU ARE DEAD/TERRIBLE/MAFIA". In fact, you even said that we needed to vote either you or Kelsier today, after your massive chaos concerning SL, so you can hardly be believing what you say.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22091 Posts
December 13 2014 21:50 GMT
#2516
Ok, I'm kinda sold on that HF case and GB is so nuts about all of this that it's giving me townie vibes.

##Vote HF
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 13 2014 21:50 GMT
#2517
On December 14 2014 06:47 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 06:39 GlowingBear wrote:
FF, you have my blessing. Although people are lunching a question mark over obvious mafia.

I'm not really caring right now. I'm sure my case is spot on. Nobody who tried to deflect it succeeded properly. There is not counter argument for the things I've said.


GB you can't possibly read HF.

His scum game is immaculate. Like the hearthstone game he played townie as townie can be.

The only thing that bugs me is that he has been totally underwhelming.

Nothing comes to mind when I think of HF this game. He has not been as impactful as previous games for sure and the IRL excuse that Hf's in belgium...sure watever, but today I really want this kel lynch over HF or FF.


This is why you guys always lose to mafia HF.
I've scumread him correctly on Hearthstone mafia just after I died night1.
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 13 2014 21:51 GMT
#2518
On December 14 2014 06:49 Tubesock wrote:
Templar, you have been on me since the beginning of day 2. AND JUST NOW YOU VOTE OFF ME WHEN I SPAM AND DROP HUGE READS???



Dude people are unvoting you because its clear we dont have the numbers and we dont want are vote wasted chilax.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 13 2014 21:51 GMT
#2519
On December 14 2014 06:50 Vivax wrote:
Ok, I'm kinda sold on that HF case and GB is so nuts about all of this that it's giving me townie vibes.

##Vote HF

What do you think of Tubesock insisting SL is mafia without ever voting him?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 13 2014 21:51 GMT
#2520
well who said that kel wasnt a contender for lynch today???

was it vivax???
Prev 1 124 125 126 127 128 265 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:00
FSL TeamLeague wk19 PTB vs IC
Freeedom20
Liquipedia
SC Evo League
12:30
#16
SteadfastSC130
LiquipediaDiscussion
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Group B
WardiTV1125
TKL 399
Rex149
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 399
Lowko384
Rex 149
SteadfastSC 130
SortOf 124
Codebar 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 46859
Rain 2718
PianO 528
Larva 496
firebathero 492
Mini 214
Killer 147
soO 78
Aegong 52
Backho 41
[ Show more ]
Oya187 41
Rock 32
ToSsGirL 25
HiyA 25
Noble 25
Movie 17
Shine 14
Terrorterran 12
zelot 12
ivOry 11
yabsab 11
Dota 2
qojqva10608
Gorgc6453
Dendi861
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1634
byalli653
oskar122
Super Smash Bros
Chillindude31
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor370
Other Games
B2W.Neo1606
crisheroes398
Hui .360
Mlord348
Beastyqt163
Fuzer 128
XcaliburYe105
XaKoH 68
Trikslyr28
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream27284
Other Games
EGCTV626
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1723
League of Legends
• Nemesis2803
• Stunt800
Upcoming Events
IPSL
1h 34m
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
1h 34m
BSL 21
4h 34m
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
16h 4m
Classic vs SHIN
Maru vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Wardi Open
22h 34m
IPSL
1d 4h
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
1d 4h
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
OSC
1d 7h
OSC
1d 17h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LAN Event
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.