EPTOn December 14 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote:
I can't vote HF if a FF lynch is possible.
I can't vote HF if a FF lynch is possible.
Dont vote hf
vote kel
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liancourt
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Dont vote hf vote kel | ||
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Xatalos
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Why do you even want to lynch KSC? | ||
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rsoultin
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##unvote ##vote FF | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On December 14 2014 05:45 Alakaslam wrote: Not necessarily. I just finished my shower. I am set to leave but the wedding does not start for an hour and 15. But it is... ... Bad manners to be poring over your phone at a wedding. If you go to Kels, I will follow. Then I think more will. Up to you. | ||
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liancourt
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On December 14 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote: KSC doesn't even have many votes and besides there are far better lynch candidates. This is such a bad reason. If u vote kel there will be enough votes | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 14 2014 05:45 Alakaslam wrote: Not necessarily. I just finished my shower. I am set to leave but the wedding does not start for an hour and 15. But it is... ... Bad manners to be poring over your phone at a wedding. Gogo FF | ||
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Xatalos
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On December 14 2014 05:47 liancourt wrote: This is such a bad reason. If u vote kel there will be enough votes You specifically said that votes would be wasted on other wagons when he didn't even have many votes (1 or 2). | ||
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Alakaslam
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GlowingBear
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Odd final count analysis and lack of push on town agenda On December 11 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote: So you're saying that even though I spent 2-3 pages of filter PREVIOUSLY talking about bunnies all game the fact that I only spent a few long posts on her LATER when she had only posted like a page or less since I left with a lot of fluff in it makes me mafia? Why are you using the the latter half of the game to justify a read on me that should span the whole game? Have you even bothered to check the timestamps of when I've been around, I was sick all day and literally posted as much as I could on as many people I could in the time frame that I've been here (without trying to devolve into spammyness) I can't believe you'd ever make this read as town. Ever. It literally shows no progression of thought process at all and is a rough job of a case that is based on falsities twisted to fit your narrative. There is no way on this planet that a town ritoky would make this case. Just like the case you made on LS using exclusively meta reads. None of these things you are saying make anyone scum yet you're pushing them so vehemently that it's making YOU look scummy instead. I hope someone shoots this guy (ritoky) btw. I dunno about oats anymore. My point on him was made kinda moot by xata so he's really just a ?. Don't like his wasted vote on vivax after saying he looked towny at all though. In fact there were a LOT of wasted votes. ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies (10): Half the Sky (0): The_Templar (2): GlowingBear, froggynoddy sicklucker (0): ObiWanShinobi (0): Vivax (1): Oatsmaster LightningStrike (0): sicklucker (0): liancourt (0): GlowingBear (1): Damdred Fecalfeast (3): ritoky, LoneMeow, KelsierSC KelsierSC (3): Xatalos (4): ObiWanShinobi, Vivax, Fecalfeast, rsoultin, froggynoddy (1): Half the Sky kush, gb, froggy, oats, damd, ritoky, lonemeow, kelsiersc, ls, slam, obi, vivax, fecal, rsoul, hts gonna check out all of those filters at some point to see their views on bunnies and why they weren't on her/what they were doing, kinda bad to still be on xata after he kinda adequately explained every accusation against him tbh and those rogue 1 and 2 voters that are on targets that were barely ever pushed at all (gb, froggy, hts) look terrible A good way to catch mafia is looking at who wasted their votes on the final votecount of a day. This looks like an attempt to do that. But, you see, he oddly points out EVERY other person outside the main wagon, which is NOT a reasonable thing, specially when we are talking about such strong player as Holyflare. Following his logic, me, frog and hts looks terrible. This is him stablishing the town agenda. In fact, our wasted votes looks terrible. Reminder: he didn't like froggynoddy's entrance either. But look at how inconsistent is his play: he stablishes town agenda, but pushes his own agenda (pushing ritoky). He does NOTHING to see these 3 people's alignment. He is NOT interested in these 3 people's alignment. He is just interested to look like an aggressive townie pushing ritoky, but he is actually not trying to solve the game. He is not trying to discover ritoky's alignment. He is just pushing for the sake of pushing someone. Why this comes from a mafia?: Mafia tends to look contributive but lacks the town intention for solving the game. He simply displays 3 names people should take a look at but does not go after those names. He is disinterested in solving the game, to discover people's alignment. That's not a townie. A townie would go against those 3 names he spoke of. He just posted this analysis because he wants to look contributive. Town read on froggynoddy When I noticed these patterns, I inquired him for reads on froggynoddy and Vivax. This is his response: On December 12 2014 10:21 Holyflare wrote: I have no idea how this is relevant in the slightest when I've made it pretty clear who i think mafia are. Either way, froggy is a kindaaaa towny/i dunno read. He writes quite long posts to say not much but I dunno how to explain that I don't want to lynch him other than saying his posts look innocent enough and to the point. He also wanted people to talk to him about his templar read that he's been pushing around the deadline which was cool and I kinda regret not talking to him more, he also said something around the bunnies lynch which i forget that made it seem like he was actually thinking about the game. I wouldn't say it's particularly difficult stuff to post as mafia but it seems pretty genuine to me. Vivax has been pushing people that I agree look scummy (- xatalos) but his reasons for doing it look like he's putting in the effort to find out inconsistencies. After a few games where we've been wrong on each other I think we've just resorted to ignoring the other and are just gonna base it on overall play. Well I am anyway. Not really bothered to elaborate further. You see, he was scumreading froggy noddy, said he looked terrible by his wasted vote, BUT CALLS HIM TOWN WHEN ASKED FOR A READ. This is someone who is NOT consistent with his reads. This is someone who gives fabricated reads and forgets them, or someone who doesn't want to scumread a possible partner. I know for a fact that Holyflare does this a lot. He scumreads a partner to further townread him. Remember: HE HAD NO ATTEMPT TO DISCOVER FROGGY'S ALIGNMENT. He started having this townread on him out of nothing, which is completely scummy. I'm sure you can understand mafia motivation behind it. Scumread on me This is hilarious. I want you to check these two posts regarding me, from the most recent to the oldest: On December 13 2014 08:29 Holyflare wrote: I can only assume someone pushing so much false information is mafia. Much like ritoky who even when presented with multiple pieces of evidence to show that his meta was wrong continued to push his scum read on me. Not to mention his initial contradictory stance on how he has a super solid meta read on me but was fooled last game even though he said that meta read existed then too. Glad to see absolutely nobody in this game is paying attention to that. On December 10 2014 00:11 Holyflare wrote: 2 people haven't posted in this game at all yet, useful -.- Oats, your post on vivax is wrong and your post refuting that wasn't in any english I could understand. Ls looks not bad to me, dunno why people are hating on him giving all the meta when loads of other people do the same. Ritoky seems angry for some reason because of this?? Obi still being useless, just because he was useless last game (russian) as town doesn't stop him being able to be useless this game as mafia. It just means he's useless which increases the odds of him being mafia. Kush.. Meh will resolve itself i think Gb hasn't really done anything but hasn't done anything outrageously wrong like I'd expect him to as town but his picking on solely koshi and like nothing else is wearing thin and is pretty scummy I dunno feel kinda iffy about hts after reading the things about kush feels a bit too flippant New list oats, obi, (gb?) bunnies Mehhhhbe/mehhhhbe not: hts, kush HAHAHA HE SAYS IT'S A TOWN TRAIT FOR ME FOR BEING OUTRAGEOUSLY WRONG, BUT WHEN HE THINKS I'M OUTRAGEOUSLY WRONG THE SCUMREADS ME. This is the most inconsistent thing I have ever seen. He didn't scumread me because I acted scummy. He scumread me because he felt I was getting close to him. He is trying to discredit me and to survive, and not to figure out my alignment. Town perspective would be evaluate my action and figure out my alignment for something he already knows about my gameplay. Mafia perspective is "I'm getting caught, I have to make this guy look bad" ##VOTE: HOLYFLARE RIGHT NOW!!!! | ||
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Alakaslam
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Fecalfeast
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sicklucker
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On December 14 2014 03:57 Tubesock wrote: GlowingBear, tell me what is a smarter play. TownSicklucker - thinks he has a town on D1 and sends him a gift and CLAIMS he did. MafiaSicklucker - Claiming to give a towny a gift (knowing who the townies are) and then using a kill shot on them. Then claims "Oh no! He must have opened the present!! Poor suicidal Damdred." On a Starcraft 2 forum I find it hard to believe there are many stupid people. This isn't Super Mario Brothers, SC2 takes effort. You're saying that Sicklucker is more likely stupid and thus "town"? REALLY??? How am I stupid when im right about my town read and I convince every player in the game but you and maybe rsputin that im town. I did the optimal play just stop im like the top town other then maybe like xata. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
doing a lot of reading now | ||
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Xatalos
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Alakaslam
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Tubesock
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On December 14 2014 05:48 Alakaslam wrote: I am now on FF. I doubt I will change from this You really think he's more likely than LS? | ||
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Alakaslam
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Fecalfeast
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On December 14 2014 05:53 Alakaslam wrote: Who is LS Exactly | ||
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batsnacks
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