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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
November 28 2014 19:20 GMT
#1361
On November 29 2014 04:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Where's sentinel with his scumreads?

Sentinel has no scumreads.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 28 2014 19:20 GMT
#1362
On November 29 2014 03:55 Holyflare wrote:
Damd I want you off the top of your head to explain why you think gb is town. Like fully explain as much as you can without checking his posts.


Struggles with getting across complex ideas and generally looks meh doing it at times which is generally towny of GB. Does what he promises instead of excuses and foes after a hard target in Marv instead of an easy target he could of picked. Seems to believe everything he says.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 19:21 GMT
#1363
On November 29 2014 04:20 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:55 Holyflare wrote:
Damd I want you off the top of your head to explain why you think gb is town. Like fully explain as much as you can without checking his posts.


Struggles with getting across complex ideas and generally looks meh doing it at times which is generally towny of GB. Does what he promises instead of excuses and foes after a hard target in Marv instead of an easy target he could of picked. Seems to believe everything he says.


Can you outline specific examples from memory and fit them into what you just said?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 19:22 GMT
#1364
On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.

I've seen him get lynched as scum for playing like this as well. Can't remember the game.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 28 2014 19:22 GMT
#1365
On November 29 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.

If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too.


In fanfic I hard defended him during d2 and I felt like I really had a good read on Palmar. I ended up being correct. In werewolf I already knew his alignment (I was scum), and his play there seemed to follow the exact same structure as it does here:

1. Palmar does something weird or whatever the fuck.
2. People are scum-reading and voting for Palmar.
3. Palmar comes out and gives out a small number of reads, doesn't seem to care that much about the pressure, then goes afk.
4. Palmar gets lynched.
5. Palmar flips town.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 28 2014 19:23 GMT
#1366
On November 29 2014 04:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.

I've seen him get lynched as scum for playing like this as well. Can't remember the game.


Then I would really like a link to this game, because this is my read on Palmar as it stands.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 28 2014 19:24 GMT
#1367
HF where do you stand right now? What are your preferred lynches?
Minimal effort.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
November 28 2014 19:25 GMT
#1368
On November 29 2014 04:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.

If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too.


In fanfic I hard defended him during d2 and I felt like I really had a good read on Palmar. I ended up being correct. In werewolf I already knew his alignment (I was scum), and his play there seemed to follow the exact same structure as it does here:

1. Palmar does something weird or whatever the fuck.
2. People are scum-reading and voting for Palmar.
3. Palmar comes out and gives out a small number of reads, doesn't seem to care that much about the pressure, then goes afk.
4. Palmar gets lynched.
5. Palmar flips town.

You are either misremembering or intentionally trying to mislead here. By the time he was lynched in werewolf Palmar was easily the towniest player in the game (he had also given a good amount of different reads) which made the fact that those idiots lynched him so awesome for us scummers.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2014 19:25 GMT
#1369
On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred.

fuck you and i am here and reading.
yo uare scum because of this post in which everything is wrong in and you haven't done shit in this game besides one good observation on Superbia.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
November 28 2014 19:26 GMT
#1370
On November 29 2014 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred.

fuck you and i am here and reading.
yo uare scum because of this post in which everything is wrong in and you haven't done shit in this game besides one good observation on Superbia.

Cute.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 28 2014 19:26 GMT
#1371
I actually don't see how palmar having done this as scum in the past would change anything

the argument against palmar's lynch today is that it doesn't give us information, not that he can't flip scum. If you seriously think that being wildly afk useless is a town tell... I'm not feeling it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2014 19:26 GMT
#1372
On November 29 2014 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred.

you srsly saying he doesn't do this as town? :>

yeah not to mention i explained both of the reads.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 28 2014 19:27 GMT
#1373
alright im a lot of posts late
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
November 28 2014 19:27 GMT
#1374
On November 29 2014 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred.

you srsly saying he doesn't do this as town? :>

yeah not to mention i explained both of the reads.

You said superbias playstyle is different and damdred has his "own logic". That's hardly an explanation.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 28 2014 19:28 GMT
#1375
On November 29 2014 04:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:20 Damdred wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:55 Holyflare wrote:
Damd I want you off the top of your head to explain why you think gb is town. Like fully explain as much as you can without checking his posts.


Struggles with getting across complex ideas and generally looks meh doing it at times which is generally towny of GB. Does what he promises instead of excuses and foes after a hard target in Marv instead of an easy target he could of picked. Seems to believe everything he says.


Can you outline specific examples from memory and fit them into what you just said?


From memory probably his first post about why obi is town came across pretty badly but I think that and the followup posts could be seen coming from a town GB struggling to get what he means across, I believe he struggled with his rayn read as well but I'm a bit more hazy on that. Before he started his case on Marv he seemed to struggle with why he was scummy and even after and during the case it seemed he was trying to get across an idea or thought process.

He promised responses and looking into super is which he did I believe, and his case on Marv like I asked instead of coasting.

probably could of went after super/sno or myself but went with marv
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 28 2014 19:33 GMT
#1376
On November 29 2014 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:22 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.

If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too.


In fanfic I hard defended him during d2 and I felt like I really had a good read on Palmar. I ended up being correct. In werewolf I already knew his alignment (I was scum), and his play there seemed to follow the exact same structure as it does here:

1. Palmar does something weird or whatever the fuck.
2. People are scum-reading and voting for Palmar.
3. Palmar comes out and gives out a small number of reads, doesn't seem to care that much about the pressure, then goes afk.
4. Palmar gets lynched.
5. Palmar flips town.

You are either misremembering or intentionally trying to mislead here. By the time he was lynched in werewolf Palmar was easily the towniest player in the game (he had also given a good amount of different reads) which made the fact that those idiots lynched him so awesome for us scummers.


What? I did not feel like he was the towniest player at all at that point in the game (though to be honest, I do not know who was, that game was a clusterfuck for town). I remember agreeing with the pressure on Palmar, but finding the lynch mindbogglingly bad. Maybe my read on Palmar is bad, so I'd love to see a case on why he's scum here. As it stands I still believe it's a shit lynch.
Minimal effort.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 19:48:07
November 28 2014 19:35 GMT
#1377
Day 1 Votecount:


GlowingBear (1) : Superbia, marvellosity, HolyFlare

Holyflare (1) : WaveofShadow

geript (0) : Damdred(elvis' vote), GlowingBear

Superbia (2) : geript, GlowingBear, ObiWanShinobi, GlowingBear

ObiWanShinobi (1) : Elvis!, geript

Damdred (1) : [UoN]Sentinel, [UoN]Sentinel

Justanothertownie (1) : HolyFlare, [UoN]Sentinel, raynpelikoneet, HolyFlare

WaveofShadow (0) : geript, marvellosity, geript, geript, HolyFlare

Sn0_Man (1) : Superbia, geript, geript, Palmar

Palmar (1): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man

marvellosity (0): GlowingBear

Not Voting (4):
justanothertownie
marvellosity
Damdred
Sn0_Man

Currently Superbiar is set to be lynched with 2 votes! Remember, voting is mandatory!
Next Deadline in !

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2014 19:36 GMT
#1378
JAT and Wave get massive angry points.

I am moving to a new apartment on Monday. I have lived at my friends place for the last week. There are at least three people around me all the time i am not sleeping or at work. Every single day i have found time to play this game (or last two days) -- at every single break i have at work, and every single night when it's possible. I just drove 450km to pack my stuff ready for Sunday when i am driving back. Yeah i think i should be doing the packing right now so i can actually do it in time. But hey, here i am again. And then pretty much the first thing i find out some idiot has nerve to call me scum for "lurking".

No, this is not a defense. This is because i am pissed off. Especially coming from two guys who have wasted at least 24h of this day into saying ONLY useless shit.
table for two on a tv tray
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 28 2014 19:37 GMT
#1379
Dear host,
you may have missed:
On November 29 2014 03:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
Don't worry the palmar lynch has been off for a while
speaking of which now seems like a good time to
##Unvote

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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
November 28 2014 19:37 GMT
#1380
On November 29 2014 04:33 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:22 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.

If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too.


In fanfic I hard defended him during d2 and I felt like I really had a good read on Palmar. I ended up being correct. In werewolf I already knew his alignment (I was scum), and his play there seemed to follow the exact same structure as it does here:

1. Palmar does something weird or whatever the fuck.
2. People are scum-reading and voting for Palmar.
3. Palmar comes out and gives out a small number of reads, doesn't seem to care that much about the pressure, then goes afk.
4. Palmar gets lynched.
5. Palmar flips town.

You are either misremembering or intentionally trying to mislead here. By the time he was lynched in werewolf Palmar was easily the towniest player in the game (he had also given a good amount of different reads) which made the fact that those idiots lynched him so awesome for us scummers.


What? I did not feel like he was the towniest player at all at that point in the game (though to be honest, I do not know who was, that game was a clusterfuck for town). I remember agreeing with the pressure on Palmar, but finding the lynch mindbogglingly bad. Maybe my read on Palmar is bad, so I'd love to see a case on why he's scum here. As it stands I still believe it's a shit lynch.

I don't think it is possible to make a case for Palmar being scum OR town here which is the problem.
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