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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 28 2014 18:57 GMT
#1341
On November 29 2014 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well I just called your gf a shitter then.
And you're not lying down, don't lie to your gf.


I'm lying in bed on my phone right next to her?

How are you writing this while you are lying on your phone?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 18:57 GMT
#1342
On November 29 2014 03:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Am I stupid or are Waves recent posts really weird? He says he scumreads rayn takes FFL2 to prove that while thinking he was town there (?). Wut?

Of course it was weird, I screwed up and realized it right after I posted. Either way, I was trying to show how Rayn cares more as town than scum and while FFL2 showed him caring a little, it's certainly more than he cares here.

I have a question for you though, why did you bring up the example?
On November 29 2014 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
[quote]
What?

Earlier you wanted to lynch HF despite not being able to catch him.

I don't see what one has anything to do with the other. Palmar is catchable, if he plays the game.

On November 29 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, wave?

That's pretty tempting actually. I don't think I've ever seen Rayn play so little though. It's hard for me to believe that's alignment indicative so I wonder if we'd be lynching him for the wrong reasons.
Let me read him because I haven't.

If that is the only thing that's bothering you take a look at FFL2.

Here and a couple other places in your filter you bring up rayn subtly painting him in a scummy light and then you don't do anything about it. Is there a particular reason?

Ok, let me get this straight. You say you could see rayn being scum but have doubt because he is playing so little. I present you a game where rayn does very little as scum.
What is there that does not make sense to you?

Then after that you go "rayn cares way more as town". Oh, yeah? If that is what you are thinking how come you doubted your read earlier because he played so little? Something doesn't add up here.

It was a response to you linking FFL2 to Sn0.

And I still doubt my read.

Answer my question JAT. If Rayn is so scummy to you that you need to bring up evidence as to his scumminess to both me AND Sn0, why haven't you done anything about it?

Yes, I linked that game to sn0 to demonstrate that his read is wrong. I don't see how that changes anything.
What do you think I should do about it? I already said if rayn doesn't deliver soon he will be back on my lynch list.

Why are you still waiting for him to deliver with 4 hours left on the first day? It seems are you're already attempting to convince yourself and others he is scum but not really pushing it particularly hard, and it really rubs me the wrong way.

You mean I am scummy for going after your scumread?


I don't see how this is relevant. Of course you can be.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 28 2014 18:58 GMT
#1343
On November 29 2014 03:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:49 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:46 Superbia wrote:
Also we're not killing Palmar today.

Do explain.


Because I feel he's town and he always gets killed for dumb fucking reasons near EoD.

Why do you feel he is town?


Mostly this post:

On November 27 2014 19:49 Palmar wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it.


Is super smart.

Another interesting tidbit is that this first post by mafia is almost always some kind of a fluffy comment. I didn't write down the posts (I should have) but it was pretty obvious that during the first... 20? posts of the game, mafia posts just to post.

So I'm literally only going to do that today. just read the first 20 posts or so and find the mafia in there.


I really liked Obi's post as well. The fact that he's completely acting upon this thing is a bit weird, but not scum indicative. In fact I think it's rather townie, especially coupled with the fact that he's giving the appearance of being busy due to thanksgiving. I also personally liked the little tidbit of me being the first post in every town game I've been in.

Also I agree with most his (limited) reads, excepting the rayn part. I haven't really read rayn.

Though I'm mostly defending him here because I felt a "lolz let's vote for plammar gais" garbage lynch coming, into him flipping town, into town having made 0 progression.
Minimal effort.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 28 2014 19:00 GMT
#1344
I think I'd like to keep GB and Sent around. I find it interesting how Sn0 is pushing Damdred. Maybe give Superbia a day pass. I kinda like his comment re:Rayn. Not sure what to do with JAT. I find him hard to read.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 28 2014 19:00 GMT
#1345
On November 29 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Am I stupid or are Waves recent posts really weird? He says he scumreads rayn takes FFL2 to prove that while thinking he was town there (?). Wut?

Of course it was weird, I screwed up and realized it right after I posted. Either way, I was trying to show how Rayn cares more as town than scum and while FFL2 showed him caring a little, it's certainly more than he cares here.

I have a question for you though, why did you bring up the example?
On November 29 2014 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
Earlier you wanted to lynch HF despite not being able to catch him.

I don't see what one has anything to do with the other. Palmar is catchable, if he plays the game.

On November 29 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, wave?

That's pretty tempting actually. I don't think I've ever seen Rayn play so little though. It's hard for me to believe that's alignment indicative so I wonder if we'd be lynching him for the wrong reasons.
Let me read him because I haven't.

If that is the only thing that's bothering you take a look at FFL2.

Here and a couple other places in your filter you bring up rayn subtly painting him in a scummy light and then you don't do anything about it. Is there a particular reason?

Ok, let me get this straight. You say you could see rayn being scum but have doubt because he is playing so little. I present you a game where rayn does very little as scum.
What is there that does not make sense to you?

Then after that you go "rayn cares way more as town". Oh, yeah? If that is what you are thinking how come you doubted your read earlier because he played so little? Something doesn't add up here.

It was a response to you linking FFL2 to Sn0.

And I still doubt my read.

Answer my question JAT. If Rayn is so scummy to you that you need to bring up evidence as to his scumminess to both me AND Sn0, why haven't you done anything about it?

Yes, I linked that game to sn0 to demonstrate that his read is wrong. I don't see how that changes anything.
What do you think I should do about it? I already said if rayn doesn't deliver soon he will be back on my lynch list.

Why are you still waiting for him to deliver with 4 hours left on the first day? It seems are you're already attempting to convince yourself and others he is scum but not really pushing it particularly hard, and it really rubs me the wrong way.

You mean I am scummy for going after your scumread?


I don't see how this is relevant. Of course you can be.

No, that should not be his first reaction to it. How about you give your opinion on the whole matter instead of posting this post which is irrelevant itself?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 19:01 GMT
#1346
The more you post superbia the less I like you as town :/
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 28 2014 19:02 GMT
#1347
On November 29 2014 03:58 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:49 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:46 Superbia wrote:
Also we're not killing Palmar today.

Do explain.


Because I feel he's town and he always gets killed for dumb fucking reasons near EoD.

Why do you feel he is town?


Mostly this post:

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 19:49 Palmar wrote:

On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it.


Is super smart.

Another interesting tidbit is that this first post by mafia is almost always some kind of a fluffy comment. I didn't write down the posts (I should have) but it was pretty obvious that during the first... 20? posts of the game, mafia posts just to post.

So I'm literally only going to do that today. just read the first 20 posts or so and find the mafia in there.


I really liked Obi's post as well. The fact that he's completely acting upon this thing is a bit weird, but not scum indicative. In fact I think it's rather townie, especially coupled with the fact that he's giving the appearance of being busy due to thanksgiving. I also personally liked the little tidbit of me being the first post in every town game I've been in.

Also I agree with most his (limited) reads, excepting the rayn part. I haven't really read rayn.

Though I'm mostly defending him here because I felt a "lolz let's vote for plammar gais" garbage lynch coming, into him flipping town, into town having made 0 progression.

Fair enough.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 28 2014 19:04 GMT
#1348
On November 29 2014 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
The more you post superbia the less I like you as town :/


I find this really hard to believe. Yesterday you essentially said you agreed with my points on GB, and since then I've interacted with GB and giving my input on Elvis and Sent. Care to elaborate why you're reading my posts as scummy?
Minimal effort.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 28 2014 19:04 GMT
#1349
On November 29 2014 04:04 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
The more you post superbia the less I like you as town :/


I find this really hard to believe. Yesterday you essentially said you agreed with my points on GB, and since then I've interacted with GB and giving my input on Elvis and Sent. Care to elaborate why you're reading my posts as scummy?

I would also love to hear this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 19:08 GMT
#1350
You say the post is weird/not scummy/but towny all in the same paragraph but give no reasons why it's towny at all apart from you the little "insight" which isn't particularly an insight at all if all palmar is doing is this one irrelevant thing it's not going to be hard to just tell the truth about something is it?

It's entirely not alignment indicative but you've reached the whole conclusion that the lynch would be garbage despite him doing all the scum tactics under the sun (excuses, no real content bla bla. Why is he even celebrating thanksgiving in iceland lol?)

It seems a bit tmiish to me
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 28 2014 19:08 GMT
#1351
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 19:10 GMT
#1352
Like you're "happy" with his reads but his reads are based on literally 5 posts of the game. That's what I'm talking about when I say it's very weird.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 19:13 GMT
#1353
I couldn't care less if you pushed every single one of my scummiest reads either that means nothing in tl mafia if you look scummy doing it I'll push you
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 28 2014 19:14 GMT
#1354
On November 29 2014 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
I couldn't care less if you pushed every single one of my scummiest reads either that means nothing in tl mafia if you look scummy doing it I'll push you

Cool story bro. Now to the part where you give an opinion on the actual read.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 28 2014 19:14 GMT
#1355
Also the circle of life continues if you say that after calling me out for scumreading you despite having similar reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 19:14 GMT
#1356
I literally just explained everything wtf are you talking about?
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 28 2014 19:16 GMT
#1357
On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.
Minimal effort.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 28 2014 19:16 GMT
#1358
Thought that comment was directed at me for the wave/rayn thing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
November 28 2014 19:18 GMT
#1359
On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not a fan of your latest post Superbia.
Specifically the part right at the end where you say he felt a garbage lynch coming on.

You mean the one I said was going to happen like yesterday and the one marv and I talked about extensively?
You're way too late to be defending him for nothing now, and it just comes out sounding really awkward.
It just sounds like you're cool with him because he townread you.


That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town.

This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid.

If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 28 2014 19:18 GMT
#1360
Where's sentinel with his scumreads?
I'm adorable.
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