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On December 02 2014 04:33 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2014 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
i wanna kill dis obi guy look at his vote and general lack of giving a shit + wants to kill a town read + afking all game + nub Yes, I'll be clear. That shit is sketch. But why are you not considering his meta whatsoever? No offense Obi, but HF he's not a great player. He'll do scummy shit. I can go back and look to see how many times he's been mislynched if that helps. I just seem him at best as the #3 best lynch for today at best.
I've literally told you your meta read on obi was shit and he's never made posts like that as town.
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but yes I'd rather get this damd thing out of the way to clear things up because I don't want it to go on for another cycle
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and yes I realise I have 1 too many mafia
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point out to me posts that were that contradictory in any of his games
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i don't think i've ever seen him so wishy washy on reading a person to call him both town and a lynch he wants to go for
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On December 02 2014 02:49 geript wrote:
HF, IDK about Obi's meta. The differences that I'm seeing from Obi's meta are:
1) As town he tends to give out more ideas
2) As town, he tends to play to have fun and enjoy himself which tends to level out later in the game; + townpoints
3) As town his vote tends to bounce around a bunch; + scumpoints
4) His post length is slightly more one-linery as town but that seems to change game to game
I don't think there's a good meta reason to be voting him over Damdred.
1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game
2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID
3) hasn't happened this game
4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game
so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game
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On December 02 2014 04:43 Damdred wrote:
I'm really trying not to suck the tunnel is pretty great here though.
Me rayn sno/sent can't be mafia together I think even using my bus tendencies
why do you "think"...? it's literally impossible because you are "town"??
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any indication...? i've literally pointed out obi who you said was very likely mafia and I don't even know the reasons that you want to lynch damd, you've wanted to lynch him since day 1 based on nothing at all
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On December 02 2014 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote:
i'll give you obi's playing like a retard but that certainly doesn't make him scum. I've seen lots of townies "revenge-vote" people who are pissing them off and convince themselves that that person is scum even when they know that person isn't actually.
Damdred replaced a super-scummy player, continued to play gross, and got chainsaw defended very hard by flipped scum. Open and shut.
You said he was very likely scum?????? Also elvis wasn't particularly that scummy and he didn't get chainsaw defended by scum yesterday when you scum read him all day.
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On December 02 2014 05:10 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2014 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think i've ever seen him so wishy washy on reading a person to call him both town and a lynch he wants to go for You don't look for one specific thing when you meta. You look at the trend. What are the persons tendencies. And no, I'm not going to go back and look at that meta again. Proving things works both ways HF; you've said X, Y and Z about Obi. I just finished reading a bunch of pages about him. We disagree about a read; it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. Is my read strong enough that I'd stake my mafia career on it and never play again if I'm wrong? No (besides that would be against the rules). From what I recall, he's been wishy-washy before; I think I saw points of it in both his town and mafia play. I also know that generally what happens is that people forget about or drop good townreads they had early on. Marv had a decent townread on Obi early, Palmer did too. I don't remember where you were at on him. I just don't see a reason to lynch a guy because he said one super scummy scummy thing especially when half the fucking game has said something equally if not more scummy than him.
this whole paragraph is useless and poses nothing to the game when I just took the meta that you made for obi by reading his past games and applied it to this game you shouldn't be reading him anything other than mafia
he has literally only been town read for the first like 2 hours of the game AND THEN AFK'D THE ENTIRE GAME, you're saying "oh these people town read him!" who gives a crap? how is that relevant? it's not ONE scummy thing at all, it's a multitude of scummy things culminating in one scummy pile
you can't just say that you disagree without stating WHAT you disagree on
On December 02 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2014 02:49 geript wrote:
HF, IDK about Obi's meta. The differences that I'm seeing from Obi's meta are:
1) As town he tends to give out more ideas
2) As town, he tends to play to have fun and enjoy himself which tends to level out later in the game; + townpoints
3) As town his vote tends to bounce around a bunch; + scumpoints
4) His post length is slightly more one-linery as town but that seems to change game to game
I don't think there's a good meta reason to be voting him over Damdred. 1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game 2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID 3) hasn't happened this game 4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game
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me and superbia, because it does quite a lot
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he has even less time in this game so it's got less 1 linery useless posts though
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so why is obi not here defending damdred who he town reads and even said he would defend if that was the case?
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His opening in werewolf is equally jokey so irrespective that adds nothing to a town or scum read btw.
Anyway, his just general lack of giving a shit and then when he gets pressured instead of his USUAL oh i aint a part of your shenanigans shit! like he usually is it's all apologetic/roll overy/submissive, he has extremely unusual reactions to things that he shouldn't
On December 01 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Okay, I can see where you're coming from.
Give me a minute.
^ never in my life would i expect a post like that from obi when i'm calling him out for something and when I actually do say this isn't right and how i'd expect him to respond and tell him what I was expecting it's only THEN that he does it when I call something else out:
On December 01 2014 15:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##vote holyflare
Nah. You can get lynched. If you're just going to act like an idiot and nitpick at my posts then I'm just going to vote you and leave.
I've explained my thought processes and you're just like "no, lol." Gtfo.
and this reaction is totally unwarranted when it wasn't just me that was interested in this question
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like i can't be bothered to prove things tbh I'd like a flip first he just feels "off" from interacting with him
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go back to being afk/useless it's better that way
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well you're trying to vote off a blue so k
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while your town read dies
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