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Damdred
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On December 03 2014 13:05 Holyflare wrote: yeh getting modkilled as mafia is.... terrible Yeah. Can't imagine anyone else modkilling themselves as mafia. Defo. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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geript
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On December 03 2014 13:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Seriously. I can't tell you how much trouble I've had with this in the past, so having someone act like it's not even a thing to not get lynched ever is kinda lame. Plus, Wave found rayn with relative ease and got him to modkill himself. That's like the crowning achievement of mafia: if you can play to the point where you can get a member of the opposite alignment to modkill themselves, you won the game so hard the scoreboard turned into diamonds. I don't think wave had a solid scum read on Rayn fwiw. In many regards, becoming unlynchable takes time. It is in part an extension of experience. It is in part showing your ability to hard carry a game. It is in part the amount of quantifiable effort you put into a game. To explain, veteran players who have any reasonable history of carrying a game (Hapa, Marv, VE, HF, Palmer, Austin, Kita, Foolishness, Keirathi, BH, etc) are just less likely to be lynched because of the downside of being wrong. After you play a bunch of games, you consciously or not get a feel for things that people find towny and things people find scummy. As well, over time you learn how to construct an argument that people find appealing. Honestly, half of looking towny is recognizing other towny individuals and the other half is recognizing individuals who are scummy. That way you organize yourselves into groups that naturally separate town and scum. The last part is effort. For most people, solving a puzzle is far more enjoyable than trying to trick people. So in general, town tries harder than mafia. So when you put in 8 pages of filter including obvious reading/thinking/analyzing you naturally look more towny. Like look at the variety of meta points I used to frame arguments. Sn0 was being useless, not helping, not reading and barely paying attention by his filter. Then I showed his town game included many of those things. It wasn't a simple lurker/asshole not productive argument which didn't work. It showed more effort than just "let's lynch scummy person X." Even Marvs argument on Damdred wasnt a rehash of my case on him. It was all that stuff, close mislynch and circumstantial Rayn information. Long story short, being towny is a lot like giving a memorable gift. The gift needs to be something of value; the gift needs to show sacrifice on the part of the giver; and the giver needs to mean something to the recipient. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
don't think rayn was supertowny to anyone | ||
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marvellosity
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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marvellosity
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justanothertownie
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On December 03 2014 20:00 Palmar wrote: I was supertown! JAT even said so, and my CC didn't even consider me a viable option for mafia. You weren't supertown. I thought your claim meant you were very likely town. Thankfully superbias watch on HF solved the game. Selfish from geript to concede for the both of you but you couldn't have won. The only supertown scum in this game was geript. Respect. I don't remember ever thinking he was really towny in a game we were both in so I thought he stepped it up and basically gave him a pass. | ||
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justanothertownie
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justanothertownie
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On December 03 2014 13:05 Holyflare wrote: yeh getting modkilled as mafia is.... terrible You mean like getting modkilled as town? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On December 03 2014 20:22 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe I should stop sheeping marv btw. he was spectacularly wrong this game. i had my vote on mafia at some point this game bro did you? | ||
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
On December 03 2014 20:27 marvellosity wrote: i had my vote on mafia at some point this game bro did you? Irrelevant. You didn't push for his lynch at all. Also I vote less in general so your chances of randomly hitting mafia with your vote is way higher. AND I had my vote on Sentinel at one point who was mafia regardless of what Shiaopi is trying to tell us. ^^ | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
On December 03 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote: so "no" was your answer it was a "no, but..." | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
glad we have that sorted | ||
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
 At least I can read you. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
no-one got much right this game, it happens edit: at least scumread-wise | ||
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justanothertownie
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
ez game ez life | ||
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