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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 02 2014 00:00 GMT
#2881
depends on town power roles i guess

seems a little unlikely but not out of the blue unlikely
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 02 2014 00:00 GMT
#2882
i think it's probably parity/tracker/jk vs vig/goon/framer or some other mafia variant
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 02 2014 00:01 GMT
#2883
maybe gf instead of goon
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 02 2014 00:02 GMT
#2884
would be kind of an interesting play between the tracker and parity but i dunno just guessing tbh
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 02 2014 00:02 GMT
#2885
On December 02 2014 08:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 08:55 geript wrote:
On December 02 2014 08:52 marvellosity wrote:
2 miller just seems unbelievably unlikely in a 13 man setup

In a setup with 2 investigative roles, I don't think so. My usual rule of thumb for trackers is that they need an equal number of town and mafia to be able to track. I wouldn't balk at 2 millers but 1 is fine there too.

How do 2 wandering millers make sense though? According to your logic the second investigative role would be another tracker then...

I love trackers, but part of tracking is that it requires both reading the game (to read who to track) and reading the result. The upside of it is that on a good track it can give you a 100% red check. Parity Cop is really strong in mini's because if it survives it literally owns the game and is exceptionally hard to fakeclaim. On D3 Parity cop should know 2 greens or 1 red and on D4 it flat out solves the game. Essentially, you're replacing a random blue like Vet or Named VT in favor of a weak investigative role, but because you have a strong medic and a strong investigative role you need to weaken town's ability to flat out win by blue play should mafia not get lucky with back-to-back-to-back blue hits.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
December 02 2014 00:03 GMT
#2886
Does framer interact with parity?
Minimal effort.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 02 2014 00:03 GMT
#2887
parity can be against a framer and a gf in this setup so it's not particularly THAT strong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 02 2014 00:03 GMT
#2888
yes
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
December 02 2014 00:04 GMT
#2889
On December 02 2014 09:03 Superbia wrote:
Does framer interact with parity?

Of course.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 02 2014 00:04 GMT
#2890
On December 02 2014 08:59 Holyflare wrote:
so a mafia with a vig and a rber and a framer would be op right?

Mafia Vig is OP. Last time I saw one was in Bluelightz? They can claim at any point and pretty much win so long as they don't get checked or endgamed by a cop check. They're like masons in this game (not normal masons) stupid dumb broke. Normal mason would be fine in this game. It's like Named VT with a bonus.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 02 2014 00:05 GMT
#2891
we should binge out on role talk now and try to move on from it tomorrow ;D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 02 2014 00:06 GMT
#2892
On December 02 2014 09:00 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's probably parity/tracker/jk vs vig/goon(gf)/framer or some other mafia variant


think this is most likely, really not sure they do actually have a rber
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
December 02 2014 00:06 GMT
#2893
Yeah, I need sleep anyways. Who would have thought that this game would get so interesting today.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 02 2014 00:15 GMT
#2894
On December 02 2014 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
parity can be against a framer and a gf in this setup so it's not particularly THAT strong

I don't think GF and Framer are usually paired up together. But that's actually really interesting. I'm going to have to think about that for a future game.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
December 02 2014 00:19 GMT
#2895
On December 02 2014 09:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 09:03 Superbia wrote:
Does framer interact with parity?

Of course.


Bah. That ruins a world I just sketched out. I thought only alignment cop interacts with framer/GF. And since alignment was virtually impossible due to balancing issues, mafia would have an essentially dead PR (even worse than goon), therefore 3 scum PR. Never mind.
Minimal effort.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 02 2014 00:32 GMT
#2896
Can't do alignment cop in a mini unless it's 1-shot. Otherwise it's more about great scum play or lucky night actions.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 02 2014 00:47 GMT
#2897
While we're going into crazy setup world, is there is there any setup that could have JK, doc and framer? Like even framed, rolecop, vig would be heavily tow favored right?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 02 2014 00:47 GMT
#2898
geript, you have many assertions that aren't particularly true dear
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 02 2014 00:58 GMT
#2899
it's probably sn0 and obi or sn0 and sentinel
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 02 2014 01:10 GMT
#2900
On December 02 2014 09:47 marvellosity wrote:
geript, you have many assertions that aren't particularly true dear

I've been hosting much more than you as of late dear. I have a better idea of how to balance currently.
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