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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 28 2014 20:57 GMT
#1058
On November 29 2014 05:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Effective immediately, alakaslam has been replaced by Hopeless1der

On November 29 2014 05:52 sicklucker wrote:
Sup hopeless. We have no read on you welcome to the game.

having read none of this game, that seems fairly appropriate for having replaced slam. I will limit the use of CHUPAZI based arguments. Gonna start reading the game through now.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 28 2014 21:47 GMT
#1071
sry gotta go. will finish reading today, 5-8 hours max and then I'll be able to do stuff.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 17:47 GMT
#1164
Just woke up, passed out when I got home last night.. too much to drink . Reading thread now.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 18:33 GMT
#1173
I'm up to page 30. why the hell is kush leading the votes. and also why are votes so spread out? Mafia's dream right here, no accountability for anything. "Oh I was voting my scum read, what's wrong with that?"

(Placeholder)
##Vote: No-Lynch
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 18:37 GMT
#1176
I figure finishing reading the thread is more important right now so I'm effectively afk
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 20:41 GMT
#1195
@rsoul where did you see that the countdown was wrong? they're all timestamp coded as far as i can tell.

@meatpudding...how did you tell us you were caught in a storm if you cant post from your phone?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 20:41 GMT
#1196
also i'll eat my hat if kush is scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 20:46 GMT
#1201
kush almost literally doesnt play as scum. He also busses like a mofo. He has done neither of these things this game. Just based on this I'd lynch into his current voters. Breshke is semi-confirmed town so meat, HTS, rsoultin.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 20:51 GMT
#1204
On November 30 2014 05:46 rsoultin wrote:
You may be right bats. -shrugs- But as usual you're not backing up your claims so, okay?

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count

Kushm4sta (3): Breshke, meatpudding, Half the Sky
Half the Sky (2): Oatsmaster, Damdred
meatpudding (1): LightningStrike
batsnacks (1): sicklucker
Hopeless1der(1): batsnacks
LightningStrike (1): rsoultin
No Lynch (1): Hopeless1der

Not Voting (1): kushm4sta


Currently, kushm4sta is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


@hopeless

Breaking the timestamp code:
Day 1 ends in [countdown]1400 PST, November 29, 2014[/countdown] at [time]1400 PST[/time].


Aside from saying "Day 1" the time should show up appropriately for your timezone. Whatever, illiteracy is not indicative in most cases.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 20:51 GMT
#1205
On November 30 2014 05:50 Damdred wrote:
We have an hour to go and everyone is AFK almost. Hopeless do you agree with what i said about rs?

diving meat HTS and rsoul atm but in general yes.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:10 GMT
#1218
On November 30 2014 06:08 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop @rsoultin

Even if that wasn't intended to be a list of scummy behavior. Paraphrasing large sections of the game for no reason is extremely scummy.

yeah....shennannies time guys?

##unvote
##Vote: rsoultin
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:16 GMT
#1226
hmm...last end of day was pretty sparse on active players. This may not work.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:18 GMT
#1230
Agree with damdred. See avogadro's mini mafia for an example of kush's mafia play. Also huehue, damdred kush and I were scum that game.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:19 GMT
#1232
On November 30 2014 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 06:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
hmm...last end of day was pretty sparse on active players. This may not work.


Give it 30 minutes at least then we can pull out.

Ok. If we cant get rsoul lynched who do we consolidate on? Easiest option is HTS, but I'm not as convinced anymore.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:21 GMT
#1236
so i forget. Why did everyone stop reading batsnacks as scum?

My towncircle is actually all the vets which just seems wrong on principle.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:26 GMT
#1240
so which one of them do we lynch rsoul? or what about me? You still have half an hour, instead of being salty about dying give us some reads.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:28 GMT
#1243
On November 30 2014 06:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
so which one of them do we lynch rsoul? or what about me? You still have half an hour, instead of being salty about dying give us some reads.

eg. over the course of this day you've gone meatpudding, kush, LS, damdred+bats. Somewhere along the way you've gone amiss.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:43 GMT
#1255
On November 30 2014 06:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Hopeless, you are defending Kush's play. What do you make of his reasoning for voting DSMI after voting Damdred?

Batsnacks, you can answer this also.

I am claiming gaps in Kush's reasoning from Damdred to DSMI. Counterclaim or help me fill in the gaps please.

Damdred, I've read part of your first case...also continuing...


I dont consider kush's voting damdred in reading him. Kush came back again and again to say we should vote DSMI, gave reasons on why it was a good idea, why lynching others was a bad idea. And I mean actually gave reasons instead of "lol u bad hes town".
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:51 GMT
#1263
On November 30 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch.


Nvm we're okay.

I feel like that is wrong...
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:52 GMT
#1264
pretty sure kush is lynched at this point unless we all do in fact switch to someone but I dont want to lynch HTS if I can avoid it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:55 GMT
#1270
most recently had more votes

the more votes clause puts the lynch on kush.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:57 GMT
#1274
LS came from meatpudding so it'd still be 4-4 kush leads
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:58 GMT
#1278
ignore devil's riddle for now. kush ended up messing up his smurf(alternate) account and played on kushm4sta its just not in filter list.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:59 GMT
#1281
fuu....this is going to end poorly.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 22:00 GMT
#1284
##Unvote
##Vote: Half The Sky


Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 22:02 GMT
#1288
does BH count :00 votes?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 22:06 GMT
#1294
On November 30 2014 07:05 GlowingBear wrote:
You should stop talking until night post

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 23:34 GMT
#1315
STOP POSTING UNTIL HOSTS RETURN. SOMEONE IS DEAD, WE DON'T KNOW WHO, WE CANNOT CONTINUE TALKING.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 30 2014 02:03 GMT
#1380
can you stop looking for teams and find scum one at a time?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 30 2014 02:23 GMT
#1384
ergo i must look bad. thanks oats. btw to your "placeholder" argument, the only reason i came back was BH sent a voting reminder. I was still reading the thread, any vote i placed would have probably changed.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 30 2014 22:56 GMT
#1430
On December 01 2014 07:50 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 07:43 rsoultin wrote:
On December 01 2014 07:37 Breshke wrote:
On December 01 2014 07:34 rsoultin wrote:
No one's finding anything off about this at all, huh?

bats, sl, ls without any teeth pulling...riding on damdred's coattails. hts is cool w/ meat. oats mentioned meat the moment night ended. hopeless i'd bet will be jumping right on that bandwagon

too many people. someone's bussing or something's off


What has meat done that is town? Why didn't you have these views when dicksmash was lynched you seemed fine with that wagon.


I'm not sure why the dicksmash vote is relevant here, but that was a race between dicks and bats that was actually fairly even until the end. Here there's nothing but meat, meat, meat. So not the same situation.

As for what meat has done for town, nothing off the top of my head. Doesn't make this seem any less off.


It is relevant. Dicksmash was streaks ahead of batsnacks. Bat only had two votes for a majority of that day infact when you voted for dick bat had two and dicksmash had 5. Did you not have a weird feeling then about everyone jumping on dicksmash?

So who would you rather be voting? You arnt happy with the meat lynch what would be better in your opinion?

LS for one.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 30 2014 23:02 GMT
#1433
On December 01 2014 07:34 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 07:31 sicklucker wrote:
On December 01 2014 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry for not posting in the Night I was still in shock that Kush got lynched when I tried to save T_T
Kush if you read this I sorry I tried to save you but failed


Did you tho? All I saw was you sheeping bats. This is very scummy


Damdred and hopeless were sheeping me too, in his defense.

1) Do you think that I tried to save Kush?

2) Do you think that LS tried to save Kush?

3) Do you think Damdred tried to save Kush?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 01 2014 02:28 GMT
#1453
On December 01 2014 10:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also ive noticed people are calling me scum.
I didnt notice any reasons.

Care to explain?

something something one of the vets. I'm getting similar comments, except "afk" is also being thrown around. btw, totes afk tomorrow because I'm at work all day and I will miss deadline the following day for the same reason.

##vote: meatpudding
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 01 2014 02:29 GMT
#1454
On December 01 2014 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats some horrible vote analysis meatpudding.

You didnt look at the context behind the votes, you just simplistically assumed that mafia wont all be on the same wagon.
UNTRUE.

##vote meatpudding

p.s. this.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 01 2014 02:37 GMT
#1456
On December 01 2014 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
You have 2 pages in like 3 days.
Thats afk/lurking.

Come on Hopeless, try harder pls.

But i dont wanna. meat is so clearly scum, cant i just coast another day?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 01 2014 12:27 GMT
#1527
I'm omw to work so I can't hold a discussion right now.

Batsnacks hard defending LS. Por què?

Sicklucker you said something about soul reading Damdred earlier. I want you to channel your inner Trfel and explain this considering YOU KNEW Damdred's alignment in the "ongoing game" you kept referencing. You didnt have a read on him at all. On a similar note, you voted Damdred in ms paint day1 as scum buddies, so I don't get how LS flipping mafia 100% clears meat.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 02 2014 02:25 GMT
#1600
meatpudding dies today. In the meantime I want someone (not sicklucker) to comment on the following:



Series of damdred related quotes from sicklucker:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 26 2014 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I think what ive seen is scum. I found it super weird how he never asked breske one question but he asked me 15 of the same question. I dont want to push him yet because I think I can soulread him as I have in a current game I cant talk about.

Bresk individuality I dont have much but he hasint been around. I just put him in that longshot scum team from their really weird day 1 interactions together.

On November 26 2014 10:13 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2014 10:59 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
/in
I'm not really a newbie so put me down as either in just don't wanna force someone out of a spot they want/need.


Well Ill take my town read away I thought he was a new player but I did like him calling out damdred.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 09:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:26 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)


Like hes the only person in the game ive given a read on yet. Why do you keep asking


Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically.


Thats bullshit Everypost I made in this entire thread was about those two players. Its like your posting to make yourself look good while adding nothing.

i kinda agree with this.


On November 27 2014 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
Ya dont vote slam. Hes been pretty inactive in the other game too. Ill be able to read him well after mafia reading him so easy I think. same with damdred. They will also be great town assets if they are.

On November 27 2014 04:45 sicklucker wrote:
if we have a cop or tracker check damdred. Dont check me ill be oozing town soon.

On November 27 2014 05:40 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I just think you played a very scared cautious mafia game before but that has yet to be confirmed. Once you come out with this im very happy to join in on your horse.

On November 27 2014 06:11 sicklucker wrote:
Kinda ya Im skeptical of damdred but his posts were enough for me to join in. rsoultin is not he joined after

On November 27 2014 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred im not even pushing you and your so defensive? what gives?


On November 28 2014 16:27 sicklucker wrote:
Damdreds been super defensive. I talked alot early about how im going to soul read him and hes put alot of effort into making me look bad. As it is now hes gotta die at some point things can change. I would rather solve the bats mystery first.

On November 30 2014 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
Ah shit I missed the vote im so bad. Catching up did we rly vote out one of my top towns


Once again, sicklucker was on Damdred's team in his previous game. He was not reading him, but he claims to have developed the innate ability to read damdred (and slam) since he just played with them together as scum. How does that claim not bother anyone? How does that even make sense? I do not like the way that his read on damdred develops. I do not like the way that he tries to take credit for damdred being nked. His story changes constantly and he is being townread for being insane.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 04 2014 05:04 GMT
#1903
Been getting my ass handed to me at work. I'll be around tomorrow night and Friday. Feel free to pile on the votes in the meantime, I play better when I'm being lynched.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 15:51 GMT
#1999
Hi just woke up. Presumably you want to know who is scum and why, and then you'll lynch me anyways. Unless I'm specifically asked not to, I'm going to go filter everyone left and listpost my reads. kthx.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 16:34 GMT
#2001
So I didn't filter everyone, but the day2 votecount trumps alot of the content reads. POE gives me meat, batsnacks, oats for possible scum.

Breshke claimed roleblock N1, that is literally enough for me to townread him the rest of the game.

HTS - Day2 vote shenanigans mean he's probably town. Unless rsoul and hts are both scum, scum!hts had every incentive to switch onto town!rsoul. He was around and able to switch but chose not to.

rsoultin - LS was too eager to hop onto his wagon end of day2. Why would mafia risk a teammate like that when LS could have easily parked his vote on kush? rsoul town.



Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 16:36 GMT
#2002
On December 06 2014 01:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Go for it. Looking forward to reading them. I don't agree with most here putting you as #1 candidate for lynch but you lurking this long has bothered me. Because you haven't been here to post, I cannot read you well. Simple as.

That is where I stand. I have been told by Oats that RL reasons are not valid.

Take that as you will. But that is my position on you. Let me know any questions you have.

To be fair, irl reasons shouldn't be valid. The only content you have to read me by is
- defending kush
- thinking SL was scum

and not much else. And at this point in the game, unless I can prove I'm town somehow, I will very likely end up being lynched, if not today then tomorrow. All I need to do is establish which of meat/oats/bats is town before then and hope people listen to that.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 18:32 GMT
#2005
fck it, oats is town. lynch meat and bats gg.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#2008
that vote on meat was yesterday. I'll be around at deadline but I'm fine with
#vote batsnacks
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 20:56 GMT
#2014
I could find stuff thats scummy about all of them, I think what I find on oats is weakest.

meat has a similar length of filter as me, but his content isn't his own or its poorly constructed.

Re: Day2 votecount analysis
On December 01 2014 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats some horrible vote analysis meatpudding.

You didnt look at the context behind the votes, you just simplistically assumed that mafia wont all be on the same wagon.
UNTRUE.

##vote meatpudding

Has spent this day saying "Hopeless is scum but I dont remember why"
"SL says he's scum, why did he say that?"
"SL says Hopeless and Bats are scum because everyone else is town"

'Lynch hopeless then HTS"

wait what happened with that last one? Again, oats comes in to question meat for all the right reasons.
On December 04 2014 13:22 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 13:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said why man meat. Have you even read his filter?

It's not like there is a lot of posts, why can't you make up your own mind?


What? I have said what I'm thinking so far. To repeat, it's voting hl. But I was looking into sl as well because he was saying the same thing but I wanted to be sure why he thought that. It turns out that his argument was poe. All you said on hopeless was that he was lurking and said scummy shit. We still have all day to consolidate on a vote and it can't be that hard. Again, it's not that I don't agree with your conclusion but why can't you go into what you think the scummy shit is?





With bats hard defending LS, it makes him look bad but then again, meat is also really scummy so to me bats just picked one of them to bus and one to defend. Bats has been evasive all game, getting reads from him has been pulling teeth. He was only saved because of Damdred imo and that threw a lot of people for a loop and I dont think bats has been properly re-evaluated, he's just kind of been scummy and still here.



my biggest reasons for oats being scum are that he is absolutely adamant that I'm scum and wont do anything else until I'm lynched. However that's not really true. Stubborn oats is generally town oats, but instead of being happy meat is ready to lynch me, he takes the time to question meat's motive. That just feels really townie to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 21:56 GMT
#2037
you me bats hts?

##unvote batsnacks
##vote meatpudding
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 21:58 GMT
#2041
##unvote
##vote batsnacks
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 21:58 GMT
#2044
lynch bats and meat kthx
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 22:05 GMT
#2056
...ok wtf
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 22:26 GMT
#2061
evidently too hard on mobile. sidenote, why are you here just after the lynch?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 06 2014 01:12 GMT
#2094
On December 06 2014 09:25 rsoultin wrote:
Calm down folks. sucks to be wrong, but now hopeless appears to have lured bats out to vote meat, therefore killing himself. hope is now a pretty sure bet vice just a lurker

i mean when you put it like that, it sounds like i have fucking mind control powers. kneel before my might!
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 06 2014 01:29 GMT
#2097
On December 06 2014 10:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 10:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
On December 06 2014 09:25 rsoultin wrote:
Calm down folks. sucks to be wrong, but now hopeless appears to have lured bats out to vote meat, therefore killing himself. hope is now a pretty sure bet vice just a lurker

i mean when you put it like that, it sounds like i have fucking mind control powers. kneel before my might!


Not a mindreader, but that is the second time that you've started the shenanigans at EoD. Not making me feel good about you there, hopeless.

well the first time i wanted shenanigans to save kush. this time it was to save myself, so this one hardly counts. And the first one helps confirm you as town, so i'd say you ought to rethink how you feel.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 06 2014 02:27 GMT
#2100
oh noowwwwww its clear. thanks for clearing that up oats. who's my partner?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 08 2014 02:08 GMT
#2147
just going through the motions here I guess. ##vote: meatpudding
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 12 2014 03:39 GMT
#2202
yeah i'd like to apologize for my lack of effort. On the other hand, the new town played very well towards endgame compared to bats and oats imo. "Vet" apathy needs to be curbed.
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