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Breshke, what are your 3 reads right now? I found the ones from earlier with bats...oats i think...and meat/slam. But not since day 3 started. Or if not 3 your top ones. | ||
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Like why is LS a bad lynch even if he does flip mafia? Or just going to provide no substance and continue snarking? | ||
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And thank you for your reads, Breshke. I'm not 100% in agreement with all of it but it does seem very thought out. And yes, it would be very nice for meat to show up and put something in. We've still got over a day though so...there's that. | ||
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On December 01 2014 21:08 Breshke wrote: wow you read that fast I don't expect you to agree with all of it im surprised it actually makes sense. Rsoultion I would be voting LS right now but I dont want meats to think there is no pressure on him when he comes back to the thread because he needs to start being towny today. So thinking on that how do you feel about people being so happy to take their votes of meat and vote LS, like does it change your read on meat? I don't have an issue with you keeping to what you think, or keeping the pressure on. Meats not sticking up for himself is a valid point. Only scenario that makes sense to me with meat actually as mafia is if scum team was convinced one or the other (LS or meat) was bound to be lynched today so made a gamble. As for if all the votes swing? It's a little harder to judge when we've already been talking about it, since scum team knows why I held out to begin with. But it's early to get worried, I think. You, SL and HTS are my main town reads and Oats' moves have always seemed logical regardless of his possible alignment. Logic lies in scum trying to win quickly over slowly. Only reason to buss is if they don't think they have better options, especially when everyone but me was on meat. Can't really claim that means you were town later. | ||
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On December 01 2014 21:23 Breshke wrote: How much do you think votes at the very very start of the day matter though? Those votes are bound to change and stuff but i still see what you are saying. I'm feeling a lot better about this game because I am now fairly sure rsoultin is town and if anyone disagrees they should say so we can discuss it. Eh, bats started the tunneling on me. And it's hard to argue HTS as scum when he refused to change his vote, and posted as town when he thought he'd been lynched, since those last two vote changes came in right on the edge and weren't counted. Bats started the tunneling on me, Damdred said I looked scum based off that, bats suggested the vote change, Damdred went with it...and the mess got started. Outcome was no different except he did a damn good job of discrediting me, making himself look good...then Damdred flips town when he's mafia-killed. It all seemed too convenient to me -_-. But I was reluctant to say much cause yeah going after the guy who went after you looks like just that. Going after the guy cause he went after you. But then it was like all aboard the meat train. You're right that it doesn't usually matter. It's just that even if you thought I was mafia (which would be dumb not to go with the flow) there's at least 1 mafia in that train. More likely 2-3. | ||
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"hammer" - does that mean vote? cause "hammer" sounds negative lol And I am reading the damn timestamp right this time, right? We've got more than 24 hours left? | ||
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Sad that most of my EoD voting is usually not liking the other vote more. Reminds me of Presidential elections... | ||
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On December 01 2014 22:30 sicklucker wrote: Ya another odd spot where you and bats dont mention each other. Who did you vote d1 again? Lol, SL...circular reasoning dude. I didn't like that in Damdred (HTS is bad cause SL is bad cause HTS is bad), and I don't like it here. Sides, he left me off too. I seem to recall being left off several lists early game. Felt unloved ;o; Though I was being a bit of a sarcastic ass too so that's okay lol. No one has to love me. | ||
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okay, I know i'm tired. oats loving everyone made me think of sowing oats. | ||
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Dodging questions and not backing up your statements looks scummy, even taking out what I personally think of your play. Continually trying to hide behind your association with Damdred instead of building any credibility of your own through reads and trying to figure out the game also strikes me as scummy. Why is LS a bad lynch if he's mafia? Why did you say that? | ||
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Can't say I'm not doubting my own play a lot here. Especially with meat's lack of any real attempt to defend himself or try to find scum if he's town. I've said before I could see bussing if both ls and meat are scum cause they're both high on most people's lynch list...but I don't much understand mafia bussing meat otherwise with a couple easy scapegoats and all the general confusion that's been going on this game. I know nothing of bats' meta (really hating this word this game, lol). His sulkiness isn't productive if he really is town though. It's not enough to get me to change my mind about ls at all. We've still got a day. Plenty of time to change votes back to meat if this silence keeps up. Not impressed with a gotta vote ls to save myself but I already wanted to vote ls response either, Breshke, lol. Feelin you on that one completely. For my part, just gonna wait it out and reevaluate after those of you who should be up during the wee hours of my morning (which doesn't usually include me @.@) get together. If anyone has a case in support of either meat or ls being town please bring it forward. You do make sense Breshke...any scum is better than no scum, which is what motivated my push for ls in the first place, when it seemed like the entire player base was good with killing off meat and I found that fishy. It's against my better judgment to just assume a player is bad at playing, but well...dicks really shot himself in the foot so who knows. Long story short, I'm willing to switch my vote to meat if both still seem this scummy and no one presents a good case to save either of them before EoD tomorrow. I just want to leave both options open for now, keep the pressure on both. See if anything else comes of this. | ||
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Would really just like to hear what you have. It's okay if it's not super solid or something. I think we're all uncertain right now, which is why everyone is so worried about who to lynch and lynching the wrong person, lol. | ||
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On December 02 2014 10:37 meatpudding wrote: In a way, I assumed he was N2 after for voting kush. Mainly because LS was already scum read to me and I assumed that neither bats or oats would be. So leaving off rasputin, breshke and sl that left me with hts and hopeless 1der. Honestly, meat, by that logic you should be voting for me lol. Which I wouldn't blame people for doing. I'm the one who voted for kush last and refused to change my vote to HTS. It might help if you read EoD Day 2 and Night 2...your last few posts lead me to believe you haven't been paying attention to those. | ||
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Since you read that, I assume there's a reason you're still suspicious of him? | ||
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Yeah lol, that's why I said that from the outside looking in, HTS and I only make sense if we have the same alignment. Scum risking being lynched to protect town doesn't make sense. Scum to protect scum, town to protect town, sure. | ||
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The thing is, even though he was bouncing around a lot and I even accused him once of throwing everything at the wall and just seeing what would stick, his statements he usually backed up pretty quick (even if the logic wasn't terribly good in some of them). It seemed more like he was fishing and throwing ideas out there, which smacks of town behavior, not mafia. Not all of those quotes are Damdred-related, btw. That last one was referring to HTS if I remember correctly? Not Damdred though. And the dude really was badgering him about HTS in the beginning of the game. Read the first five pages or so it was kind of getting to the ridiculous point, so I understand his frustration -shrugs- (That said, Hope, have to agree with Oats that it's interesting that it seems you may be sheeping bats again. Or at the very least justifying his accusation when he returned to find the votes split.) | ||
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