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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:14 GMT
#1221
We should make an effort to vote him

##unvote
##vote: rsoultin
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 29 2014 21:15 GMT
#1222
##Unvote
##Vote Rsoultin
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 29 2014 21:15 GMT
#1223
On November 30 2014 05:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
kush almost literally doesnt play as scum. He also busses like a mofo. He has done neither of these things this game.


Hopeless, question, operative words in bold.

I think Kush has played some here prior to the middle of D2, but others are calling him out that he's not playing enough. Define what you mean as "almost literally doesn't play as scum". As in just AFK to the point of being a policy lynch?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:15 GMT
#1224
On November 30 2014 06:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 05:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
kush almost literally doesnt play as scum. He also busses like a mofo. He has done neither of these things this game.


Hopeless, question, operative words in bold.

I think Kush has played some here prior to the middle of D2, but others are calling him out that he's not playing enough. Define what you mean as "almost literally doesn't play as scum". As in just AFK to the point of being a policy lynch?


HTS you should vote rsoultin if only as a means of self preservation because if we can't lynch him we're probably going to switch back to you.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 29 2014 21:16 GMT
#1225
On November 30 2014 06:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 05:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
kush almost literally doesnt play as scum. He also busses like a mofo. He has done neither of these things this game.


Hopeless, question, operative words in bold.

I think Kush has played some here prior to the middle of D2, but others are calling him out that he's not playing enough. Define what you mean as "almost literally doesn't play as scum". As in just AFK to the point of being a policy lynch?


Kush literally does nothing, if you call him out all he does is come in make promsies and is antagonistic towards everyone does not try to push lynches except on his scum mates and never tries to solve the game OR give reads he never does any of that as scum
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:16 GMT
#1226
hmm...last end of day was pretty sparse on active players. This may not work.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:17 GMT
#1227
On November 30 2014 06:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
hmm...last end of day was pretty sparse on active players. This may not work.


Give it 30 minutes at least then we can pull out.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 29 2014 21:17 GMT
#1228
Look at the games i posted where hes town, he afks in those to! but that doesn't make him scum just because people are propegating what they think his scum meta is doesn't mean thats what it is.

hes been actively trying to figure something out when hes here, he shoudln't be lynched rsoul has been scummy at eod lets go
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 29 2014 21:18 GMT
#1229
Kush still might die anyway from modkill theres that to lol
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:18 GMT
#1230
Agree with damdred. See avogadro's mini mafia for an example of kush's mafia play. Also huehue, damdred kush and I were scum that game.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:19 GMT
#1231
On November 30 2014 06:18 Damdred wrote:
Kush still might die anyway from modkill theres that to lol


There's plenty of replacements. Coaches can always step in.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:19 GMT
#1232
On November 30 2014 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 06:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
hmm...last end of day was pretty sparse on active players. This may not work.


Give it 30 minutes at least then we can pull out.

Ok. If we cant get rsoul lynched who do we consolidate on? Easiest option is HTS, but I'm not as convinced anymore.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:19 GMT
#1233
ebwop actually wait that makes no sense, coaches can't stop in. lol
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:21 GMT
#1234
Lol, thank you for telling me my own intentions. I'm certain that you're the expert and all.

Before I posted that list. Note the bolded portion or ignore it, if you prefer.
On November 28 2014 17:56 rsoultin wrote:
Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.

Has yet to do so.

Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.

I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.

As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.

Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.

You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...

And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.


And you conveniently left out the context for the list...

On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote:
Kush says d1 is enough to "prove" him town. Which...not really sure the thought process behind anyone claiming that because I view everything as fluid.

Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals:
- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-
- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post
- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke
- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted
- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks
- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)
- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats
- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town
- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)

less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push?

that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats


Now, y'all can waste a lynch on me if that's what you want, but don't tell me what my intentions were while editing parts of my posts out xP I will call you on that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 29 2014 21:21 GMT
#1235
On November 30 2014 06:17 Damdred wrote:
Look at the games i posted where hes town, he afks in those to! but that doesn't make him scum just because people are propegating what they think his scum meta is doesn't mean thats what it is.

hes been actively trying to figure something out when hes here, he shoudln't be lynched rsoul has been scummy at eod lets go


I am reading the links you posted....to get through all of this in 40 minutes and Bats' post for resoltin is a big ask. I am trying.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:21 GMT
#1236
so i forget. Why did everyone stop reading batsnacks as scum?

My towncircle is actually all the vets which just seems wrong on principle.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 29 2014 21:24 GMT
#1237
On November 30 2014 06:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
so i forget. Why did everyone stop reading batsnacks as scum?

My towncircle is actually all the vets which just seems wrong on principle.


This is strange yea there has to be a scum in the vets, but maybe not rng could of hated the newbies it feels weird
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 29 2014 21:25 GMT
#1238
Kinda interesting to me that the leads on this are bats and damdred. Just saying. Y'all can remember that when I flip town if they get this lynch rolling.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 29 2014 21:25 GMT
#1239
Damdred: In the meantime, can you run through my response to you and tell me what you think? You wanted to know why I was convinced on Kush. I answered.

If you or Kush disagree on something, now's the time to let me know.

Hopeless: Some of us had not, but voted thinking there was a stronger candidate than Bats. This has happened both D1 and D2.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 29 2014 21:26 GMT
#1240
so which one of them do we lynch rsoul? or what about me? You still have half an hour, instead of being salty about dying give us some reads.
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