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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 28 2014 09:30 GMT
#1001
@Oats...

Most confident? As in, of all the players meat is the one you are most confident is town? Really? Can I ask why?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 28 2014 10:18 GMT
#1002
On November 28 2014 18:30 rsoultin wrote:
@Oats...

Most confident? As in, of all the players meat is the one you are most confident is town? Really? Can I ask why?

scum.
hes scum.
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 28 2014 10:38 GMT
#1003
Completely misread your earlier post heh. Should sleep that's what sane people do. Your concern is that if he's mafia his buddies are hanging him out to dry. Got it. Gonna get some sleep.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 28 2014 10:52 GMT
#1004
Yeah let's try something.
##unvote batsnacks
##vote meatpudding
No gg, No skill.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 28 2014 13:36 GMT
#1005
I just woke up after going to bed after my last post and I asked who my top 3 scum are and here is mine that are here
meatpudding
kushm4sta
Alakaslam
@rsoultin The only wagon at the time was Dicksmash McIroncock and other cases that wasn't well put out and few people who I felt was townie voted for Dicksmash McIroncock so sorry if I put it all on you but it was mainly your push to get me to vote kind of forced my hand :|
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#1006
Why did you use the phrase, forced your hand?
That seems interesting.
No gg, No skill.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 28 2014 14:30 GMT
#1007
On November 28 2014 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why did you use the phrase, forced your hand?
That seems interesting.

I didn't have any good case at the time of the lynching of the Doctor and and since he told me to vote I was going to vote who I felt were townies in my opinion that's all I don't other phrases I could of used but I felt that phrase was the most appropriate for how I felt at the time.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 28 2014 15:28 GMT
#1008
@Oats, meh we can talk more about it post game but I would of killed Oats or kush depending if they were on team. But pointless to keep on this track.

@bresh I've answered this fifty times. Bats is doing some things, he's not super lurky and I can remember what he's doing.

People who are saying I'm defending bats like my life depends on it you are being dumb, a lot of people are using bad methods to try to lynch batsnacks. Others have town reads that are strange but aren't getting that pressure in getting over it so gj being tunneled.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 16:41:43
November 28 2014 16:41 GMT
#1009
Vote Count

Alakaslam (1): batsnacks
batsnacks (2): sicklucker, Half the Sky
meatpudding (1): Oatsmaster

Not Voting (7): Breshke, rsoultin, Lightning Strike, meatpudding, kushm4sta, Damdred, Alakaslam


Currently, batsnacks is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 17:01 GMT
#1010
If I'm town, is mafia voting me right now?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 28 2014 17:03 GMT
#1011
##vote meatpudding

Just get this feeling if we vote bats, he's going to flip town.

Okay, lightning. I'll buy it, because legitimately I was specifically asking you the questions about why you didn't want to lynch Day 1 because it did seem fishy to me. It was part of my first post on the thread, asking people why that made any sense, before I remembered who'd even said it. You may very well have felt pressured to when I started questioning you about it and making the case for lynching day 1 as a policy.

That said...why? I'd outright said I got your explanation. Were you worried I'd start calling you scum if you didn't? Why would that worry you? You don't have a role if you're town. The players in the thread aren't following me (I originally was on slam, and only later switched to dicks). Half the people hear think I'm scummy or at the very least a jerk. Not a pied piper of awesome to mention a name and boom that person is lynched, lol. So what about what I said forced you to change your vote?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 28 2014 17:10 GMT
#1012
On November 28 2014 11:28 kushm4sta wrote:
why are "the scum running scared"?


My first instinct, the scum killed Trfel because of how well he was putting his cases together. WIFOM, sure, but that was the first thing that came to my mind.

Three cases for scum - Bats, Meat, Kush

I think I've already explained my points against Bats. Meat is falling into the lurker category, having contributed slightly more than Alakaslam.

Kush, I filtered him again. I don't understand why his arguments for DSMI were stronger than the argument for Damdred. He didn't use much explanation for Damdred, but then again he was on his phone. For DMSI, he used a generic D1 argument (that was voiced by others and could have been used for others), and if he voted Damdred initially - who was vocal - why did he defend Batsnacks for the same reason (being vocal).

Regarding the potential policy lynches, Alakaslam is still a pure policy and should only be done for if nothing else. His bandwagon vote was a little annoying, if he acknowledged afk, he should have actually gone for the no-lynch, no information/participation to make a good informed vote. Then again, he may not even have known about that since mod posted that midway.

IMO if Meat doesn't get modkilled, I think halfway through D2 and he would become a more pure policy vote IMO. I am assuming his last post claiming storm was on his phone. Not sure when that storm hit before he posted that.

Oats, I know your vote appears on Meat a pressure vote, but if he's getting hosed (figuratively and literally) I'm not sure if we can gauge him unwilling or unable to answer. I'm not saying he's any more/less scum because of that, but just that pressure vote may not work as intended.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 17:14 GMT
#1013
HTS you said meat has contributed slightly more than slam.

So why is it bats, meant, kush and not bats, slam, kush?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 28 2014 17:15 GMT
#1014
HTS, maybe oats is voting meat for different reasons than I am, but I don't see meat as a policy vote and I at least will not change my vote just because he shows his pretty face here again. For me, he's got some 'splainin' to do lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 17:22 GMT
#1015
On November 29 2014 02:14 batsnacks wrote:
HTS you said meat has contributed slightly more than slam.

So why is it bats, meat, kush and not bats, slam, kush?

Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 28 2014 17:23 GMT
#1016
To support my points on Kush:

On November 26 2014 01:55 kushm4sta wrote:
Damdred-stronger read
His tone reads like a know it all. His arguments defending his shit pushes make no sense.


Now he didn't say Damdred was vocal, but Damdred was vocal.

His defence of Bats being vocal.

On November 27 2014 01:33 kushm4sta wrote:
Batsnacks is way too active to lynch d1. The truth is that it's rare that someone is going to have strong reads d1, so you can't fault batsnacks for that. He has been promoting discussion and had a huge presence in the thread. You don't ever lynch someone like that d1.
Oats, you should know that. And that's what makes me worry about you.


Now the argument he gave to me:

On November 27 2014 02:21 kushm4sta wrote:
The keyword is DOUBLES. As in he's a good scumlynch as well as plynch.
Alaka would be a better pure plynch sure, but Dicksmash has scummy content as well.

Dicksmash shows a need to survive. Earlier he came into the thread and tried to give some content.
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 12:48 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
My mistake. It was page 10 when you first called HTS town but a couple posts later put him up as your scumread. SL wrant from null to scum as well. Though reading through bats filter I can see that of everyone he's made and effort to not post reads or reasoning for votes so for today my vote stand on him
## vote bats

This reasoning is generic bullshit.
He's voting batsnacks for
1 fluidity of reads - which is common d1
2 not posting reads or reasoning - which other people have been worse about, plus is not even really true

His batsnacks vote is bullshit.


You can say anyone's reads D1 are poor. But if other people haven't been posting reads or reasoning what made DSMI the absolute prime candidate for him compared to Damdred (albeit different reasoning) or others he claimed was worse?

Also maybe this might sound dumb but I thought it over. How can someone be a (lurker) policy lynch and scum lynch at the same time? If you cannot get a read on someone or if you are going to policy lynch them, how does it make them scum? Haven't enough of you argued that lurker is because it's hard to get a read on?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 28 2014 17:26 GMT
#1017
On November 29 2014 02:14 batsnacks wrote:
HTS you said meat has contributed slightly more than slam.

So why is it bats, meant, kush and not bats, slam, kush?


Slam to me is pure policy - policy lurker means I cannot get a read on him. I am not in any way saying Slam is scum. Slam is null.

I put priority on people with scumlike behaviour over people who are pure policy lynch.

The content that Meat has posted and the manner in which he did not is not fully supported. If you look at the long post he did when giving reads some of it is on shaky ground.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 17:28 GMT
#1018
On November 29 2014 02:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 02:14 batsnacks wrote:
HTS you said meat has contributed slightly more than slam.

So why is it bats, meant, kush and not bats, slam, kush?


Slam to me is pure policy - policy lurker means I cannot get a read on him. I am not in any way saying Slam is scum. Slam is null.

I put priority on people with scumlike behaviour over people who are pure policy lynch.

The content that Meat has posted and the manner in which he did not is not fully supported. If you look at the long post he did when giving reads some of it is on shaky ground.


Who's the last mafia?

I already know about you and slam.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 28 2014 17:33 GMT
#1019
Um, HTS...

You just answered your own question. How someone can be a policy lynch and a scum lynch at the same time. Wtf lol. At least if you keep questioning why meat is a policy lynch. Am I misunderstanding your posts or something?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 28 2014 17:38 GMT
#1020
Come to think of it...

@Bats, I'm not seeing your top three scum for lynch. Did I miss that or are you just not playing ball?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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