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On November 28 2014 16:25 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 16:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 28 2014 16:20 Breshke wrote:
I seriously am having doubts about damdred. I don't like that I can't understand how he has a town read on bats nor is he doubting this town read at all.
If bats is scum and damdred is town those night kills are great for him (bats) because even if he gets lynched when he flips scum it looks terrible for damdred. er so is damdred scum or town? You flip flop twice during this post. I dont flip flop. I say i don't understand how damdred is reading bats town and furthermore IF damdred is town his entire spill about the nightkills being horrible isnt true if bats is scum and he hasn't even seemed to consider it. He would be in my third lynch position if meat and slam did town stuff
Er damdred was saying in the perspective of him being scum, the nightkills are terrible.
And anyway, nightkill speculation is horrible and shouldnt be discussed.
Trading 1 for 1 is horrible for scum.
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On November 28 2014 16:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 28 2014 16:20 batsnacks wrote:On November 28 2014 16:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 28 2014 15:51 batsnacks wrote:
Oats penny for your thoughts on slam/meat i told you what I thought about slam earlier. There was some shit day 1 that I didnt like about meat. Damn i gotta look but i did mention something day 1. And his absence kinda doesnt help. You did say repeatedly day 1 that you didn't like meat. You said you didn't like the content of his list post and some other stuff I think. Your reads are consistent and reasonable for the most part I'm not looking for holes or anything. I just want to know what you think about lynching meat vs lynching slam. way more for meat, his stuff has some thoughts meaning alignment indicative. None of slams stuff is alignment indicative. What do you think about rsoultin? I have never once thought this game that he is interested in finding scum. I like that rsoultin doesn't think I'm mafia but that's all really. In retrospect he only started not thinking I'm mafia after I called him out on something, so he could just be taking the path of least resistance, which would be scummy.
can you be a bit more solid on your reads? All of your shit is like "eh maybe kinda looks like, maybe maybe maybe".
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On November 28 2014 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 16:31 batsnacks wrote:On November 28 2014 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 28 2014 16:20 batsnacks wrote:On November 28 2014 16:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 28 2014 15:51 batsnacks wrote:
Oats penny for your thoughts on slam/meat i told you what I thought about slam earlier. There was some shit day 1 that I didnt like about meat. Damn i gotta look but i did mention something day 1. And his absence kinda doesnt help. You did say repeatedly day 1 that you didn't like meat. You said you didn't like the content of his list post and some other stuff I think. Your reads are consistent and reasonable for the most part I'm not looking for holes or anything. I just want to know what you think about lynching meat vs lynching slam. way more for meat, his stuff has some thoughts meaning alignment indicative. None of slams stuff is alignment indicative. What do you think about rsoultin? I have never once thought this game that he is interested in finding scum. I like that rsoultin doesn't think I'm mafia but that's all really. In retrospect he only started not thinking I'm mafia after I called him out on something, so he could just be taking the path of least resistance, which would be scummy. can you be a bit more solid on your reads? All of your shit is like "eh maybe kinda looks like, maybe maybe maybe".
I'm having a hard time reading people in this game. I can't tell the difference between who's confused, misguided, mafia, or afk.
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Laughing at me or with me? :/
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On November 28 2014 16:45 batsnacks wrote:
Laughing at me or with me? :/
all of you.
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On November 28 2014 17:08 Oatsmaster wrote:all of you.
You know I'm not mafia, right?
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On November 28 2014 17:12 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 17:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 28 2014 16:45 batsnacks wrote:
Laughing at me or with me? :/ all of you. You know I'm not mafia, right?
I dont know shit.
I suspect you are mafia.
But to be completely honest, i wont be lynching you today.
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I know this doesn't help my case any, but being the person that I am, have to say it anyway...
If your biggest reason for not lynching me bats is because I said I think you're town, lol, that's not strong enough. Especially if you think my reason for that was you "calling" me "out", rather than because I went back through your filter. I took the time to look at you again because I knew that my gut reaction on you and Oats had a lot to do with being overwhelmed and cranky.
Yeah, Oats, I know I'm not sitting here shouting so-and-so is scum or building giant scum cases...or bouncing around like sicklucker does. I've been looking at process of elimination instead, because (and yeah, maybe this means I just suck at life in general) but I'm still not reading anyone strong on scum. There are bits and pieces of this and that but nothing I'd stake a case on.
That said, we were all asked for top 3 scum, so these are the top three I'd feel comfortable supporting a lynch on today based on posting thus far:
1. Kush
2. Meat
3. Damdred
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Well Im not really saying that you should make cases or continuously restate your points, im saying I dont see a constant train of thought or questioning attitude. Like for now, you are responding to my posts. There is nothing from you that is proactive. If nobody posts, you wont say anything. Scum do that cause their objective is different. They just want to survive.
Town needs to be proactive or scum dont get lynched.
You arent proactive.
There are bits and pieces of this and that but nothing I'd stake a case on.
Can you go through some bits and pieces you find scummy?
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i have a feeling scum are try hard. bats, that's not good.
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Come on kush, give us more.
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He has a feeling scum are try hard but
On November 28 2014 16:02 kushm4sta wrote:
top 3 lynch without filter diving:
2) Breshke (filter)
7) Meatpudding (filter)
11) alakaslam (filter)
Two lurkers and the guy who claimed rb
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On November 28 2014 17:54 batsnacks wrote:He has a feeling scum are try hard but Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 16:02 kushm4sta wrote:
top 3 lynch without filter diving:
2) Breshke (filter)
7) Meatpudding (filter)
11) alakaslam (filter)
Two lurkers and the guy who claimed rb
I think he is saying try hard scum roleblock themselves
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key phrase is "without filter diving"
I put very little stock into those reads.
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Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.
Has yet to do so.
Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.
I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.
As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.
Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.
You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...
And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.
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Edit: a slight town read from sicklucker on HTS due to the questioning
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Ok just from a quite reread of your filter , you have been more active that I thought and have been portraying.
scumread rescinded
Im kinda the most confident about meatpudding now but everyone is scumreading him. Literally, everyone.
i dunno if scum decided to bus or he is just a hapless townie.
man...
gotta think this through.
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To be frank, Oats, meatpudding makes me itch, but mainly my point is I'm inclined to lynch him before Alakaslam. The reason I haven't been putting forth much on scum is I really honest to God am not nearly confident enough to say that I've got the key to the puzzle and yall should follow me lol ><. Been trying to scratch the itches by asking questions...when they're not here to answer them or are ignoring/dodging them, makes that hard though.
I do realize that meatpudding could have misinterpreted my question, cause his Marry/Bang/Kill post was 30 minutes before his explanation for them. Just...eh...he's not here to answer.
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