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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 17:06 GMT
#1794
On December 04 2014 01:48 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, fair enough.

So you think meat and hopeless are scum then, but think hopeless is the better lynch because you agree with what oats said about hopeless lurking?


Yes. I'd maybe add that regardless of what I think hopeless is objectively the best lynch.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 17:11 GMT
#1795
Also if meat is town this game gets crazy.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 18:08 GMT
#1797
How does scum save their team when either option is their team?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 20:15 GMT
#1801
On December 04 2014 04:02 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - The easiest way to support Hopeless as scum when he lurks, if he lurks regularly would be to link to a filter from a previous game where he drew scum.


Hopeless has played a lot of games on this site. Would 1 game where he lurked as scum really be what it takes to convince you?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 20:49 GMT
#1803
Explain to me concisely why hopeless is less scummy than me.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 21:54 GMT
#1812
On December 04 2014 06:33 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, SL. That is definitely concise. xP My version of concise.

LS resisted voting when you were leading the lynch votes.
LS stated you were scum, then suddenly started sheeping you with no explanation other than you "made sense".
Your editing portions out of my posts then claiming that I was contradicting myself during EoD2.
Threatening HTS with lynching if he didn't switch his votes.
Declaring him townie then switching your stance to possibly mafia after I pointed out that HTS and I logically were the same alignment.
Calling out Damdred's death before he died.
Your general refusal to answer questions clarifying your stances on things. Example: Why LS is a bad lynch even if he's mafia.
Trolling and insults rather than expressing alternative views.
Your general absence yesterday. (You have been increasingly absent throughout the game.)
The way the game has gone decreasing likely scum to you, Hopeless, meat and Oats.

Every one of these can probably be explained, but the aggregate comes out very scummy.


Only like 1 of those things is actually scummy, the rest is stuff you don't understand/don't like.

batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 21:54 GMT
#1813
They're gonna shoot oats if he's town.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 21:59 GMT
#1815
Oats thinks I'm mafia in case you forgot. He just [correctly] realizes hopeless is more likely mafia.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:05 GMT
#1818
Well I was wrong oh well.

##vote: Hopeless1der
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:10 GMT
#1823
I changed my mind I want to vote meat.

##unvote
##vote: Meatpudding
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:17 GMT
#1827
On December 04 2014 07:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Rasputin, give me a shout if you want me to change my vote.

##vote batsnacks


This is the second time you've been more confident in rsoul alignment than your own? 0_o
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:27 GMT
#1831
On December 04 2014 07:20 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:
On December 04 2014 01:48 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, fair enough.

So you think meat and hopeless are scum then, but think hopeless is the better lynch because you agree with what oats said about hopeless lurking?


Yes. I'd maybe add that regardless of what I think hopeless is objectively the best lynch.


What has changed since this post bats?


I thought oats would die.

Here's what's going on:

meat is scummy
If meat is scum (I think he is) then oats might be mafia
If meat is town (I don't think he is) then oats isn't mafia

So by voting meat I get to vote 1. who I think is scummy and 2. someone who's alignment would be helpful in solving the game. As opposed to hopeless who is just 1. scummy.

2 is better than 1 is the point I'm trying to make
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:28 GMT
#1832
On December 04 2014 07:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 06:54 batsnacks wrote:
On December 04 2014 06:33 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, SL. That is definitely concise. xP My version of concise.

LS resisted voting when you were leading the lynch votes.
LS stated you were scum, then suddenly started sheeping you with no explanation other than you "made sense".
Your editing portions out of my posts then claiming that I was contradicting myself during EoD2.
Threatening HTS with lynching if he didn't switch his votes.
Declaring him townie then switching your stance to possibly mafia after I pointed out that HTS and I logically were the same alignment.
Calling out Damdred's death before he died.
Your general refusal to answer questions clarifying your stances on things. Example: Why LS is a bad lynch even if he's mafia.
Trolling and insults rather than expressing alternative views.
Your general absence yesterday. (You have been increasingly absent throughout the game.)
The way the game has gone decreasing likely scum to you, Hopeless, meat and Oats.

Every one of these can probably be explained, but the aggregate comes out very scummy.


Only like 1 of those things is actually scummy, the rest is stuff you don't understand/don't like.



Oh, my bad. You're so right. I'll just vote hopeless now, lol.

##vote Batsnacks


I'm glad we agree but why are you voting me then?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:36 GMT
#1836
On December 04 2014 07:33 rsoultin wrote:
Your defense was just that I don't understand you. Since I still don't understand you, I'm not sure why you're surprised lol @bats.

Meat and Oats, huh? Okay.

You know what I find scummy about that? The most likely person to be scum with Meat is probably me. I mean, I'm the one who derailed that lynch and moved it to LS, who was the biggest anti-meat proponent from Day 2. If I can see that why hasn't it been brought up? Do you just think you can't get me lynched?


On December 04 2014 01:07 batsnacks wrote:
I mean unless I'm missing something if meat is scum then vote analysis of yesterday is not that useful.

batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:41 GMT
#1841
On December 04 2014 07:37 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 07:27 batsnacks wrote:
On December 04 2014 07:20 Breshke wrote:
On December 04 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:
On December 04 2014 01:48 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, fair enough.

So you think meat and hopeless are scum then, but think hopeless is the better lynch because you agree with what oats said about hopeless lurking?


Yes. I'd maybe add that regardless of what I think hopeless is objectively the best lynch.


What has changed since this post bats?


I thought oats would die.

Here's what's going on:

meat is scummy
If meat is scum (I think he is) then oats might be mafia
If meat is town (I don't think he is) then oats isn't mafia

So by voting meat I get to vote 1. who I think is scummy and 2. someone who's alignment would be helpful in solving the game. As opposed to hopeless who is just 1. scummy.

2 is better than 1 is the point I'm trying to make


So why if oats is mafia do you think meat might be? Are you saying if oats is town you are going to clear everyone who voted LS?

from what i have gathered from your POV you seem to think hopeless is scum no matter what anyone flips so why not just lunch him first to confirm that and get a better picture of what is going on this game.


What I'm saying is that if meat is scum then we were lynching between scum yesterday.

And, in your own words, since I seem to think hopeless is scum no matter what anyone flips, then lynching hopeless isn't going to tell me anything except hopeless's alignment.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:42 GMT
#1842
On December 04 2014 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
More seriously, bats, I don't actually want to mislynch you and I know I'm biased, so would you please explain why you think meat and oats are in cahoots?


I DON'T

But if meat is town then I -KNOW- they aren't.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:46 GMT
#1844
On December 04 2014 07:44 rsoultin wrote:
You know that meat and oats aren't scum. But how does that clear oats of being scum entirely? I guess is the question I should have asked.


If meat is town then oats had a choice to either

a) vote town (meat)
b) vote mafia (lightning)

If meat is mafia then oats had a choice to either

a) vote mafia (meat)
b) vote mafia (lightning)
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:49 GMT
#1846
On December 04 2014 07:47 rsoultin wrote:
Which assumes that no scum is bussing. Which by default means that if meat flips town we should assume you and hopeless are scum?


It was easy to vote meat. Oats said so himself:

On December 03 2014 12:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
How have I been "go with the flow"? If i was scum, I can make a sickass case on meat and he wouldve been lynched way earlier. Also why defend kush?

Think a bit please rsoultin.

batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 22:56 GMT
#1847
Maybe I've made a mistake. Trying to win as safely as possible sort of hinges on me not being lynched which might happen. It might be better for me to just push hopeless and hope for the best.

w/e
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 23:07 GMT
#1849
On December 04 2014 08:01 rsoultin wrote:
How is meat more safe for town to vote than hopeless?


Good question.

Better question is how I'm a safer vote for town that either of them?
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