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Some of you read too much into "you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy" part.
In response to Breshke's vote - I actually did take that seriously, which is why I posted the way I did. I have no idea how anyone plays here, SL included. That said, most of my posts were in the first (approx) 2h, with not a lot to go off of. That's why I phrased things the way I did. Yes, I found both SL's and Breshke's posts odd, which is why I reacted the way I did.
Since Breshke actually voted, I called it into question....okay, so I need to fix my sense of sarcasm. From other mafia games I've played when someone votes so quickly like, the first thing that I think of is that someone is trying to start a lynch mob.
The best I could do when the game started was try and reason as best as I could through what everyone was posting. I am not scum, and nor is my intention to confuse anyone. I was just trying to think things through.
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On November 25 2014 15:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 14:57 Trfel wrote:On November 25 2014 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
whats your read on batsnacks?
I'm honestly not sure if it is better to policy lynch or no lynch. Either way, there are definitely conflicting views in this thread (LightningStrike on the no lynch side, batsnacks on the policy lynch side, for example), so if there was clearly a right answer, there wouldn't be an argument over this, since the town could just prove that their answer was correct, and everyone else would either accept it or be lynched. Therefore, I can't read into his vote on kushm4sta. It's easy to unvote later if necessary. Meanwhile, if the vote causes him to post more, great. However, repeatedly asking others to also vote kushm4sta does seem strange, since we probably should be more interested in getting people to talk now. If policy lynching is the correct route (which I'm not sure), we can worry about that closer to the vote deadline. I would definitely like batsnacks to let up on kushm4sta, that is something to potentially return to later. I agree with batsnacks on his view of Half the Sky, as I previously stated. Definitely doesn't seem to me like as clear of a town read as some other people think. Batsnacks also seems to have slightly hinted that you (Oatsmaster) could be scum, which I suppose is possible, but I don't really see evidence for at the moment. Other than that, he hasn't really shared any constructive thoughts. Therefore, I would hope that he would start being more constructive in the near future, particularly by pushing for information on people who are posting (as opposed to kushm4sta), or I could definitely read him as scum. The right answer is to lynch scum. Bleh, this whole post is wishy washy. Is your final conclusion that he isnt town but isnt scum too?
Sorry for the lack of clarity. I was attempting to show my thought process on the way to my conclusion. In the future I will try to refrain from mentioning thoughts that don't end up having importance with respect to my conclusion.
To clarify, my conclusion is that batsnacks' behavior is quite suspicious. However, I'm not confident enough to vote him yet, and there is still time before the lynch deadline. First I want to examine his play in some past games, and I would like him to answer a few questions:
1. "There is no such thing as scum slips" Why do you say this?
2. Oatsmaster is accusing you of being scum, and your defense is "If all of this is true then your vote is in the right place and you should keep it there." This isn't a defense. I believe the burden is on you to defend your behavior and to be more constructive going forward, and not on Oatsmaster.
Also, Half the Sky, no one is accusing you of being mafia. I just don't feel like there is any real reason to conclude that you are town yet. That's all.
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Its fine to post your thought process but its easier for me to read if you have some main points or posts(quote please) that you have some conclusions to.
Also solid conclusions are great.
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oats can you stop promoting spam. hts is obvious town and we don't need more content from him.
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On November 25 2014 15:40 kushm4sta wrote:
oats can you stop promoting spam. hts is obvious town and we don't need more content from him.
Dont be mean,
And its good to convince people by making them feel important. Basic sociology.
IANASM
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Trfel how new are you to mafia?
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People shouldn't call mafia "baddies." Baddies are people who are bad at mafia like Oats.
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Played with Damdred before on another site. He loves his questions.
Breshke vote comes off trying to pressure SL back into the game (which I believe is what was claimed).
What value does a no-lynch vote hold? Avoiding hitting cop/doc or whatever? I tend to like some form of solid information, since at least three players are blowing smoke and sometimes others are too concerned about meta to be of much use. A lynch can get that solid info.
Scummiest to me right now is Bats and/or Oats, though take that with a grain of salt because I'm not feeling strongly about anyone as scum at the moment. The back and forth over Kush and who is contributing what is very white noise. Lot of blah and little helpful being said. Could just be getting sidetracked, or the argument is possibly staged.
^ My take from reading this thread half-asleep. You guys waste no time; I'll give you that.
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On November 25 2014 17:13 rsoultin wrote:
Played with Damdred before on another site. He loves his questions.
Breshke vote comes off trying to pressure SL back into the game (which I believe is what was claimed).
What value does a no-lynch vote hold? Avoiding hitting cop/doc or whatever? I tend to like some form of solid information, since at least three players are blowing smoke and sometimes others are too concerned about meta to be of much use. A lynch can get that solid info.
Scummiest to me right now is Bats and/or Oats, though take that with a grain of salt because I'm not feeling strongly about anyone as scum at the moment. The back and forth over Kush and who is contributing what is very white noise. Lot of blah and little helpful being said. Could just be getting sidetracked, or the argument is possibly staged.
^ My take from reading this thread half-asleep. You guys waste no time; I'll give you that.
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On November 25 2014 17:13 rsoultin wrote:
Played with Damdred before on another site. He loves his questions.
Breshke vote comes off trying to pressure SL back into the game (which I believe is what was claimed).
What value does a no-lynch vote hold? Avoiding hitting cop/doc or whatever? I tend to like some form of solid information, since at least three players are blowing smoke and sometimes others are too concerned about meta to be of much use. A lynch can get that solid info.
Scummiest to me right now is Bats and/or Oats, though take that with a grain of salt because I'm not feeling strongly about anyone as scum at the moment. The back and forth over Kush and who is contributing what is very white noise. Lot of blah and little helpful being said. Could just be getting sidetracked, or the argument is possibly staged.
^ My take from reading this thread half-asleep. You guys waste no time; I'll give you that.
Whats wrong with my reasoning on why bat's policy vote on kush is bad and his continuing badness with his vote on me and the circumstances surrounding that? You must elaborate.
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I dont see how Bats AND me are scum unless you are the most paranoid person alive.
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i don't like rsoultin's post because he talks about everything but why his scumreads are scummy.
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Is it shitty to quote myself?
I don't mind answering real questions, but my reasoning was stated above, and most of your arguments are picking and choosing comments out of context. -shrugs- Be more specific or stop wasting my time with nonsense.
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On November 25 2014 17:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Whats wrong with my reasoning on why bat's policy vote on kush is bad and his continuing badness with his vote on me and the circumstances surrounding that? You must elaborate.
This I find worth answering. Neither you nor Bat have inherently bad reasoning why to vote or not to vote Kush. As I said above, it's the back and forth nothing argument that I protest to.
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On November 25 2014 17:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 17:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Whats wrong with my reasoning on why bat's policy vote on kush is bad and his continuing badness with his vote on me and the circumstances surrounding that? You must elaborate. This I find worth answering. Neither you nor Bat have inherently bad reasoning why to vote or not to vote Kush. As I said above, it's the back and forth nothing argument that I protest to.
How the fuck is bats "I'm voting kush because of something he said in a different game" reasoning good??
Blows my mind.
What are your reads for the other active players?
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On November 25 2014 17:36 rsoultin wrote:
Is it shitty to quote myself?
I don't mind answering real questions, but my reasoning was stated above, and most of your arguments are picking and choosing comments out of context. -shrugs- Be more specific or stop wasting my time with nonsense.
nope please quote yourself
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Got any reads you want to share kush?
I don't really like sicklucker at the moment but i can't really express why. I don't get why people make these "traps" and then he has come to almost 0 conclusions from it. Like the trap in itself is not alignment indicative because he set it up before he knew his role but he seemingly got nothing from it and it was just an excuse because of his bad initial post.
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breshke, what was scummy about sicklucker I think moreso than that he set a trap, was that he used it as an excuse to omgus you.
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yeah i think what i was trying to say is the same as you kush. What did he egt from that trap/ What was he hoping to get from it?
Kush what's your read on Oats if you have any at this time
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