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On November 20 2014 18:36 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
IT IS scummy to be absolute on things you SHOULDN'T be absolute on! "oh hf is DEFINITELY mafia" is ONLY pushing a mafia agenda because you have absolutely 0 reasons for it and i'm town so it's not some crazy next level tactic you are doing because it's ONLY shitting up the thread with a useless vote with no reasoning or pressure. There is literally 0 things to get out of your "tactic" on me. YOU should know that pressuring me is absolutely redundant because I know how to play so the only thing you will gain out of it is me thinking you are scummy. So here we are. It's not a "tactic" on you. You're DEAD tonight. Unless mafia Roleblock me. This isn't a tactic. Or rather it is, but not the "representing certainty" tactic I was using with Hopeless. You misunderstand. I'm killing you to hedge my bets. I think you're mafia, and if we don't lynch you then I'm shooting you just in case you are mafia. Because I can't trust anything you say ever. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear earlier sir, I wasn't using any kind of tactic "ON" you, I was representing certainty ABOUT you so that town is more likely to lynch you.
So you are fabricating in-game stuff to support your OGI feelings? Seems like a pretty dumpster mindset. And you said I was salty over last game.
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i like rayn, he is my only town read right now.
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On November 20 2014 18:43 Holyflare wrote:
There's a real possibility (and it's quite high) that ritoky is mafia by the way.
you're wrong
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On November 20 2014 18:46 Holyflare wrote:You're so very passive and meagerly pointing out "things", you also say rayn is your town read right now but the only thing you've even commented on in regards to rayn is: Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 16:22 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare is weird. oh how vague of you. ![[image loading]](http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131008181448/p__/protagonist/images/3/3c/Mallory_being_skeptical.png) You're also calling out VE for fabricating things but rayn is defending VE's mindset so that read is not congruent with what you've been saying. You also seem extremely flippant in regards to the VE/hopeless interaction earlier. You're just not ritokyish.
I am meish because I am me.
rayn said you're weird. it's true, you're weird. why? cuz you're not angry at all. a couple posts ago you seemed slightly agitated. but the super town HF calls people bad and idiots and tells everyone to sheep him and claims god tier. you're muted, so you're weird.
but that said, rayn's subsequent post responding to my criticism and detailing who is town is the stuff i can put in my coffee in the morning.
as for me being me, i find like find odd and disjointed interactions day 1 and finding scum that way, you saw me behind the scenes last game. hence why i don't like hopeless. that read should not surprise you in the slightest.
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find like find, top quality english by me.
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On November 20 2014 18:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i'm muted in the slightest rofl
you've only insulted 1 person so far, that's muted for you.
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On November 20 2014 18:59 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6nl9cSB.png?2) really wtf is with the votes Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad? stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions? There is no reason to vote hopethe votes are bad same thing LOL What was the point of your question mafia? i change my vote templar is mafai
why is there no reason to vote hopeless? do you not like my or VE's read on him?
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On November 20 2014 19:10 liancourt wrote:
i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck
does this make me mafia?
i thought there was no reason to vote hopeless, now he looks scummy as fuck?
i already want to lynch you cuz you claimed mafia, you're making me think that desire isn't unfounded.
and if you think i can't find mafia day 1 thru analysis, you have a very short memory. and maybe even mammary.
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On November 20 2014 19:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:51 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 18:46 Holyflare wrote:You're so very passive and meagerly pointing out "things", you also say rayn is your town read right now but the only thing you've even commented on in regards to rayn is: On November 20 2014 16:22 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare is weird. oh how vague of you. You're also calling out VE for fabricating things but rayn is defending VE's mindset so that read is not congruent with what you've been saying. You also seem extremely flippant in regards to the VE/hopeless interaction earlier. You're just not ritokyish. I am meish because I am me. rayn said you're weird. it's true, you're weird. why? cuz you're not angry at all. a couple posts ago you seemed slightly agitated. but the super town HF calls people bad and idiots and tells everyone to sheep him and claims god tier. you're muted, so you're weird. but that said, rayn's subsequent post responding to my criticism and detailing who is town is the stuff i can put in my coffee in the morning. as for me being me, i find like find odd and disjointed interactions day 1 and finding scum that way, you saw me behind the scenes last game. hence why i don't like hopeless. that read should not surprise you in the slightest. rayn said I was weird after 1 post so this doesn't make sense in the slightest Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town. Slam is town.
We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.
ritoky i am the king of vague statements. this was also his only response to your criticism and details absolutely nothing so it's weird that the person who has said almost nothing whatsoever is your town read, especially when you pick and choose some of his posts to fit into a later timeline
my read of weirdness came later, already told you why. i also find it weird that almost immediately after i said my read your salt level increased. deciding whether i feel it was forced or not.
yup, it is a good response to my criticism, i approve of it. it is a response i would make, and i am town.
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On November 20 2014 19:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 19:00 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2014 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool I didn't exaggerate my read Holyflare, I still think he's mafia for it. I was just exaggerating how certain I am of it - I'm NOT certain of it, it's just my read. And further, I'm not saying you're mafia FOR defending Hopeless. My reasoning is clear and explicit. I'm saying your mafia for defending Hopeless FOR BAD REASON (saying that something that IS objectively scummy is NOT objectively scummy) AT A WEIRD TIME (right after you acquired a scumread of him yourself, in response to MY pressure of him) WHILE SCUMREADING HIM! Holyflare Jesus Christ, I never have to spell shit out for you multiple times like this. Maybe you are town. :/ Feigning contribution is scummy yes, but nowhere did he do that at the time you had said he had done that. The start of the game does not count towards feigning contribution when all he's done is comment on a snowflake in the first hour of the game. That doesn't make anyone mafia ever and was a bs EXAGGERATED read that I do not and will not ever agree on. People have done the exact same thing as town in many many many many many more games so it's not OBJECTIVELY scummy at all, it's entirely subjective because it's what you think which goes against the actual facts. There's quite a difference between scum reading someone for what you said and scum reading him for something entirely different. He might not end up being scum and then I can look back and remember that your pressure was far more exacerbated than it should have been in that situation. Telling you that your initial logic for scum reading him was bad has nothing to do with him looking scummy for his reaction. It's an observation. Well bolded is just your opinion just like my opinion is that Hopeless' early posting is scummy. I don't think the read is exaggerated at all, I think the posts I pointed out CLEARLY illustrate Hopeless trying to blend in. But I guess you're right, that's my opinion. But the italicized is obviously an exaggeration because no one has ever made the post Hopeless made in response to Chez because Hopeless has never made that post in any other game in response to Chez. People have done SIMILAR things, but no one has done "the exact same" thing ever. See how easy that is to just switch on? Like, it doesn't matter if you're exaggerating or not, you're just making a point right? My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. That's why I say you're repeatedly trying to discredit me...because you're saying things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to make me look bad - WHILE I find someone who YOU find suspicious...suspicious. Why? Why are you doing that?
your read is crap VE. because if you actually believe your read then you should have the same one on me; yet i didn't even make the reads post of yours.
your read is predicated on HF not finding hopeless scummy for the reasons you pointed out early, but finding him scummy for his reaction to being called out. which is almost the exact same response i had. remember where i was calling you out until hopeless reacted to you and then i rescinded on you cuz i found his post crap? that was the basis or your original read on HF, so it should also be on me. the fact that you don't evenly apply it means you're mafia or you're fabricating to push your OGI feelings.
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On November 20 2014 19:25 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:22 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 19:17 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 19:00 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2014 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool I didn't exaggerate my read Holyflare, I still think he's mafia for it. I was just exaggerating how certain I am of it - I'm NOT certain of it, it's just my read. And further, I'm not saying you're mafia FOR defending Hopeless. My reasoning is clear and explicit. I'm saying your mafia for defending Hopeless FOR BAD REASON (saying that something that IS objectively scummy is NOT objectively scummy) AT A WEIRD TIME (right after you acquired a scumread of him yourself, in response to MY pressure of him) WHILE SCUMREADING HIM! Holyflare Jesus Christ, I never have to spell shit out for you multiple times like this. Maybe you are town. :/ Feigning contribution is scummy yes, but nowhere did he do that at the time you had said he had done that. The start of the game does not count towards feigning contribution when all he's done is comment on a snowflake in the first hour of the game. That doesn't make anyone mafia ever and was a bs EXAGGERATED read that I do not and will not ever agree on. People have done the exact same thing as town in many many many many many more games so it's not OBJECTIVELY scummy at all, it's entirely subjective because it's what you think which goes against the actual facts. There's quite a difference between scum reading someone for what you said and scum reading him for something entirely different. He might not end up being scum and then I can look back and remember that your pressure was far more exacerbated than it should have been in that situation. Telling you that your initial logic for scum reading him was bad has nothing to do with him looking scummy for his reaction. It's an observation. Well bolded is just your opinion just like my opinion is that Hopeless' early posting is scummy. I don't think the read is exaggerated at all, I think the posts I pointed out CLEARLY illustrate Hopeless trying to blend in. But I guess you're right, that's my opinion. But the italicized is obviously an exaggeration because no one has ever made the post Hopeless made in response to Chez because Hopeless has never made that post in any other game in response to Chez. People have done SIMILAR things, but no one has done "the exact same" thing ever. See how easy that is to just switch on? Like, it doesn't matter if you're exaggerating or not, you're just making a point right? My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. That's why I say you're repeatedly trying to discredit me...because you're saying things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to make me look bad - WHILE I find someone who YOU find suspicious...suspicious. Why? Why are you doing that? your read is crap VE. because if you actually believe your read then you should have the same one on me; yet i didn't even make the reads post of yours. your read is predicated on HF not finding hopeless scummy for the reasons you pointed out early, but finding him scummy for his reaction to being called out. which is almost the exact same response i had. remember where i was calling you out until hopeless reacted to you and then i rescinded on you cuz i found his post crap? that was the basis or your original read on HF, so it should also be on me. the fact that you don't evenly apply it means you're mafia or you're fabricating to push your OGI feelings. I don't even know what you just said here. Which read are you even referring to? My read of Holyflare? So you think Holyflare is town then I guess? Cool. I disagree. I don't have to think you're the same alignment because you're different players and Holyflare is a MUCH better player than you are. No offense intended.
I am saying that your initial holyflare is scum read was:
VE thinks hopeless is scum for early posts and reactions.
HF thinks hopeless is scum only for the reactions.
VE thinks HF is scummy for that.
I had literally the exact same process and even argued it with you, but you didn't apply the scum read to me. I am saying that you're not applying your criteria for someone being scum evenly, which is suspect.
capital much is a bit much, i will accept lower-case much.
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![[image loading]](http://i.gyazo.com/1c56afb8c8e40c02a90f060910feb588.png)
you're the special kind aren't you?
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don't like:
lian - claimed mafia, being an unproductive dick. play the game or die. some people said "him being a dick means he is town"; i think that is garbage, i have been a giant dick before as mafia and so have many others. he is clearly reading the thread and refusing to provide content, can't get much worse than that d1. OH WAIT, he claimed mafia with his first post.
hopeless - shit reactions to pressure, overly defensive, made one post recently that was okay; but i don't let go of things very easily, so his shitty reaction sticks with me
fecalfeast - you my friend, were the first person to suggest lynching lurkers! congratulations, welcome to the only policy i have. the person who first suggests lynching lurkers is mafia 86% of the time.
don't understand:
chezinu - why is anyone town reading this guy? like people are hard defending him...and i don't even understand how they got a leaning town on him to begin with.
sicklucker - don't really understand your read on me in the slightest, i spent the early game fighting with VE; i don't feel like a propagator of peace
damdred - weak reads by his standards, fairly passive by his standards, has very narrow focus. not really sure what the hell he is doing right now.
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On November 21 2014 08:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm just going to throw it out there that I didn't say we should lynch the lurkers, I said I wanted to look at them. Which means I want them to post.
why are you so concerned about a policy read?
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On November 21 2014 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
god you guys haven't done much since i left
man's gotta work y'kno?
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saw holyfart talk about sicklucker, decided to read his filter, started; then i found this:
On November 21 2014 04:17 sicklucker wrote:
I kinda wanna mislynch you again to ff ^_^. I got some time to contribute rereading the thread.
ritoky is town. Hes trying to keep the peace and get that horribly overreacted fight done with. I dont think a mafia ever has the balls or the motive to keep the peace when we have people threatening to veggie shoot people two hours into the gamee.
scumslip much? how you know that ff is town BRO?
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also i find both gb and damdred underwhelming today, both have had narrow focuses and shallow reads.
damdred also not following through on his questioning or really pushing for answers which be strange yo!
that said though, lian is literally figuratively giving me cancer with his posts.
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On November 22 2014 06:32 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
ok templar just write like a mini paraphrased thing on ve for me and then summarise what you think of other ppl VERY briefly He formed a few opinions early in the game, never really let go of them even when it was really obvious he should have, agreed with rayn and other likely towns about just about everything they said. He never really justifies his opinion, but instead makes everyone's contradictions seem pointless. Holyflare: Mostly focused. While a lot of the posts are 1-line or filler, there are a lot of posts that actually explain some sort of thought process instead of admitting there is proof. Town read The_Templar: -- KillerSOS: Lurker that made a strange post. Null liancourtyboy: Not playing the game Hopeless: Null, as all he's done is argue with the same 2-3 people. rayn: I'm too biased currently to read him VE: Scum as explained earlier Fecal: He jumps in whenever he finds a chance to say something really quickly. Not much I can say. sicklucker: Bad logic in general, sheeping is the basis of the majority of his ideas GB: Town read, he is focusing too much on one thing at a time but he has the right idea. Chezinu: Lurker Damdred: this followed by this is really weird. "I don't know about templar's lynch" generally means he is definitely considering it until very recently. He keeps saying I look better. ritoky: I didn't even realize he had posted Alakaslam: Not even the slightest clue how to read him
this doesn't seem like a reads post a mafia about to be lynched would make. although i find it weird that templar has sheeped almost word for word a couple things i have said and responded directly to some of my posts yet doesn't know i exist.
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i am interested in
lian - not playing, claimed mafia, being a counter-productive dick
hopeless - response to being scum read early? vote lian and go invisible. most of his posts are pure defense and 0 scumhunting
damdred - i remember he said to me he isn't good @ d1 before, but he seems way too concerned with not making waves. feel like he is hiding something.
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On November 22 2014 08:21 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 08:11 ritoky wrote:On November 22 2014 06:32 The_Templar wrote:On November 22 2014 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
ok templar just write like a mini paraphrased thing on ve for me and then summarise what you think of other ppl VERY briefly He formed a few opinions early in the game, never really let go of them even when it was really obvious he should have, agreed with rayn and other likely towns about just about everything they said. He never really justifies his opinion, but instead makes everyone's contradictions seem pointless. Holyflare: Mostly focused. While a lot of the posts are 1-line or filler, there are a lot of posts that actually explain some sort of thought process instead of admitting there is proof. Town read The_Templar: -- KillerSOS: Lurker that made a strange post. Null liancourtyboy: Not playing the game Hopeless: Null, as all he's done is argue with the same 2-3 people. rayn: I'm too biased currently to read him VE: Scum as explained earlier Fecal: He jumps in whenever he finds a chance to say something really quickly. Not much I can say. sicklucker: Bad logic in general, sheeping is the basis of the majority of his ideas GB: Town read, he is focusing too much on one thing at a time but he has the right idea. Chezinu: Lurker Damdred: this followed by this is really weird. "I don't know about templar's lynch" generally means he is definitely considering it until very recently. He keeps saying I look better. ritoky: I didn't even realize he had posted Alakaslam: Not even the slightest clue how to read him this doesn't seem like a reads post a mafia about to be lynched would make. although i find it weird that templar has sheeped almost word for word a couple things i have said and responded directly to some of my posts yet doesn't know i exist. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Examples:
you responding directly to me:
On November 21 2014 08:05 ritoky wrote:
don't like:
lian - claimed mafia, being an unproductive dick. play the game or die. some people said "him being a dick means he is town"; i think that is garbage, i have been a giant dick before as mafia and so have many others. he is clearly reading the thread and refusing to provide content, can't get much worse than that d1. OH WAIT, he claimed mafia with his first post.
hopeless - shit reactions to pressure, overly defensive, made one post recently that was okay; but i don't let go of things very easily, so his shitty reaction sticks with me
fecalfeast - you my friend, were the first person to suggest lynching lurkers! congratulations, welcome to the only policy i have. the person who first suggests lynching lurkers is mafia 86% of the time.
don't understand:
chezinu - why is anyone town reading this guy? like people are hard defending him...and i don't even understand how they got a leaning town on him to begin with.
sicklucker - don't really understand your read on me in the slightest, i spent the early game fighting with VE; i don't feel like a propagator of peace
damdred - weak reads by his standards, fairly passive by his standards, has very narrow focus. not really sure what the hell he is doing right now.
I'm going to look into the bolded ones first, probably followed by sicklucker.[/QUOTE]
and your lian read is pretty much word for word my lian read, so uhhhh yeah udun?
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