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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 09 2014 05:42 Fecalfeast wrote: Wait rayn wasn't this superbia guy your next scum? What changed? Superbia and you are both still big question marks to most of us. That doesint mean you both cant help us solve the game 1 of you are probably town. Both of you could even be | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 09 2014 05:37 Fecalfeast wrote: I haven't done any vote logic but IIRC sicklucker was basically foaming scum at the mouth most of the day. If we find out serejai wasn't rb'd somehow then her but from what I remember she's not been CC'd I agree im probably in the middle for most people but that makes me a horrible lynch right now. Why did you want my lynched yesterday btw. I more or less understood elvis and serejais reasons even though I think they were just being donkeys and I strongly disagree but I dont think I ever got yours as you voted me close to the end of the day. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
You hard defended mafia on D2, at least you could explain: 1) why did you read kush lazy town instead of mafia given kush's meta. 2) why do you actually read the people you read scum scum? For example why are sentinel and ff mafia and not "lazy town"? | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On November 09 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who the hell is Artanis? Rofl. I'm out of town this weekend so reading but trying not to post (cause its hard on my phone) but I can't stop laughing at this and had to say something. I'm gonna stop thinking sicklucker is scum. As someone said earlier there's no way his mafia teammates would let him post the shit he does lol. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On November 09 2014 05:54 sicklucker wrote: I agree im probably in the middle for most people but that makes me a horrible lynch right now. Why did you want my lynched yesterday btw. I more or less understood elvis and serejais reasons even though I think they were just being donkeys and I strongly disagree but I dont think I ever got yours as you voted me close to the end of the day. I thought your posts were all over the place and I thought your ignoring sere and elvis wasn't productive. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On November 09 2014 05:58 Serejai wrote: Rofl. I'm out of town this weekend so reading but trying not to post (cause its hard on my phone) but I can't stop laughing at this and had to say something. I'm gonna stop thinking sicklucker is scum. As someone said earlier there's no way his mafia teammates would let him post the shit he does lol. WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On November 08 2014 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are right. This is a good point and it most likely means i am wrong on one of my scumreads. FF here is why i believe sentinel and superbia are both not mafia. But one of them definitely is. That's also what makes you a big suspect. Everyone else looks more or less town to me and while you look better than both of those guys i don't believe them both to be scum. So yeah. If you are town i don't really know what i am reading wrong. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
All it was is basically a typo and that was his entire basis for attacking me for like 30 pages and I felt like there relentless attacks was helping mafia by taking focus away from the game so I made the tactical decision to just ignore them so the rest of the towns can make a good lynch. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
When i subbed into the game all i saw was the biggest filter and him trying to do stuff (regardless of if it was wrong or right) on D2 when noone was doing anything. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
Im very very worried about the way the game is going because of this. Me elvis and serejai all seem to be town atm. We have all fought so much there is like 100% chance if we go to a final 5 with 2 scum and 3 town its going to me me elvis and sereajai as the towns. I feel as it is now we lose the game if that happens. Hell even if we go into the final 5 with 4 towns we might lose. Elvis and serejai we really need to start working together | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On November 09 2014 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Superbia why should people read you town? You hard defended mafia on D2, at least you could explain: 1) why did you read kush lazy town instead of mafia given kush's meta. 2) why do you actually read the people you read scum scum? For example why are sentinel and ff mafia and not "lazy town"? 1. I don't personally know kush's meta. I've half played with the guy once, but don't remember any interactions (I replaced in during d2 as scum, and conceded the same day. He was town). His behaviour reminded me of experienced players who just lost interest in the game, and I've never seen one flip scum. 2. Sentinel: I had a (cute/dumb) little play during d1 which pinged out Sentinel for me. After I pressured him his response seemed pretty terrible to me. Looked like he was trying to insert himself into a group. Doesn't help that he wrote a bit regarding someone (I believe FF) from a perspective in which they were confirmed town (i.e. probably a scumslip, town is never confident enough to assume other people are town d1), even though he had no real read on them. He had his vote on the cop at EoD1, and I don't think he ever gave a proper explanation (doesn't really matter either, because you can claim afk or whatever). Has done absolutely nothing during d2. FecalFeast: The FF I know is fine with pushing on almost everyone and I expect town-FF to be interacting with me throughout the game. This game FF has avoided me (though tbh I haven't been nearly as active as I've wanted to be), which is exactly what I expect his scum game to be (the game I was town and he was scum he was pretty afraid of me in scum QT). His d1 reads are forgetful. I remember his vote ended up on the cop, and he had some out of game reason to be afk during the very EoD (he did almost the exact same thing during the game I mentioned before, pretty sure I've never seen him afk during EoD when he's town, but admittedly, this is not strongly alignment indicative). His d2 play was basically tunneling on Kush without a good reason (imo), and I stand by my point that Kush was not really a good target. The fact that his vote didn't even end on Kush and he didn't even really help in the lynch doesn't help him at all. Obi/Kelsier: Killed the cop. Honestly, the whole "he wouldn't trade his life for the cop if he was scum" is fucking WIFOM, because we're apparently not killing him because of that fact? That's just catch-22 bullshit. I stand by my logic that Obi/Kelsier needs to be lynched during this game, unless it's over after the FF lynch (which it may very well be). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
What you need is other people to look into the argument between you three and tell you what they think of it. I don't think the town managed to do that well and (assuming i am correct and you are all town) mafia obviously didn't give a shit because it reduces the good town atmosphere when townies are fighting against each other even if it doesn't translate into one of you getting lynched. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
rayn and I are in the same dynamic as Resistance. I think I can go 2 for 2 and call him scum now. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On November 09 2014 06:22 Superbia wrote: 1. I don't personally know kush's meta. I've half played with the guy once, but don't remember any interactions (I replaced in during d2 as scum, and conceded the same day. He was town). His behaviour reminded me of experienced players who just lost interest in the game, and I've never seen one flip scum. 2. Sentinel: I had a (cute/dumb) little play during d1 which pinged out Sentinel for me. After I pressured him his response seemed pretty terrible to me. Looked like he was trying to insert himself into a group. Doesn't help that he wrote a bit regarding someone (I believe FF) from a perspective in which they were confirmed town (i.e. probably a scumslip, town is never confident enough to assume other people are town d1), even though he had no real read on them. He had his vote on the cop at EoD1, and I don't think he ever gave a proper explanation (doesn't really matter either, because you can claim afk or whatever). Has done absolutely nothing during d2. FecalFeast: The FF I know is fine with pushing on almost everyone and I expect town-FF to be interacting with me throughout the game. This game FF has avoided me (though tbh I haven't been nearly as active as I've wanted to be), which is exactly what I expect his scum game to be (the game I was town and he was scum he was pretty afraid of me in scum QT). His d1 reads are forgetful. I remember his vote ended up on the cop, and he had some out of game reason to be afk during the very EoD (he did almost the exact same thing during the game I mentioned before, pretty sure I've never seen him afk during EoD when he's town, but admittedly, this is not strongly alignment indicative). His d2 play was basically tunneling on Kush without a good reason (imo), and I stand by my point that Kush was not really a good target. The fact that his vote didn't even end on Kush and he didn't even really help in the lynch doesn't help him at all. Obi/Kelsier: Killed the cop. Honestly, the whole "he wouldn't trade his life for the cop if he was scum" is fucking WIFOM, because we're apparently not killing him because of that fact? That's just catch-22 bullshit. I stand by my logic that Obi/Kelsier needs to be lynched during this game, unless it's over after the FF lynch (which it may very well be). Well first of all one of your scumreads is town so why are you not trying to figure out which one? It's not like just "lynch these people and win" because you know, you can be wrong and if you are you are throwing the game with this attitude. Second, i think your read on kush is/was terrible and i do not know how you can in any way justify what you said about him. Especially when in the same game you replaced in i was mafia and didn't give a shit about the game due to time reasons (which i never said were the reasons). I basically did the exact same thing kush did in this game as mafia and you claim you "have never seen it before"... Again, you didn't explain what's the difference in kush's play that was more likely to come from lazy town than from mafia? That should be something any reasonable townie re-evaluates ESPECIALLY after the dude who calls kush scum because he cannot make himself play the game as mafia (Grack) dies on Night one. I find it almost ridiculous you didn't reconsider your read AT ALL after this all. Third, you seem to be suspecting people mainly for "killing the cop'". Well guess what, there were four votes on the cop at the end of D1 so it's physically impossible that voting for the cop would make one automatically mafia (because there is at least one townie who was voting for the cop -- in fact two because kush didn't vote for LS). So it cannot possibly be a reason someone is scum. You don't elaborate on WHY someone voting for the cop makes the mafia, you just lay out "this thing he did is scummy" without telling why. That's not a townie thing to do. People do stupid things all the time but stupid != scummy. Fourth, i find it quite amusing you find someone mafia for tunneling kush.. YOU FIND SOMEONE MAFIA FOR BEING RIGHT!?!?!?!? How stupid is that? In addition you only bring up this, not the fact that the dude who tunneled kush DIDN'T EVEN VOTE FOR HIM IN THE END OF THE DAY! (which in fact IS scummy). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On November 09 2014 06:41 Breshke wrote: I woke up late but theres a weird interaction between ff and sentinel if they are a scum team ill find it and show you rayn. I find it really hard to put sentinel into a team because the only person i can see him lining up with is immaterial but since rayn replaced him it doesn't seems like less of a world. I still think sentinel is scum though. Sentinel talks about his scumbuddies and is generally more inactive as scum than as town. I played as scum with him a year or so ago in a game where kush was also mafia and he just bussed one other dude and half of my time in the game went into yelling him and kush to post more. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On November 09 2014 06:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Alright. I'm hung over and still pretty mad about yesterday's power outages. rayn and I are in the same dynamic as Resistance. I think I can go 2 for 2 and call him scum now. Like these kind of posts are so garbage they cannot come from a townie. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On November 09 2014 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sentinel talks about his scumbuddies and is generally more inactive as scum than as town. I played as scum with him a year or so ago in a game where kush was also mafia and he just bussed one other dude and half of my time in the game went into yelling him and kush to post more. I do that as a town too. Namely Cell Mini. | ||
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