On October 26 2014 09:23 Superbia wrote:Some other thoughts:
Both newfriends (
FF/
Elvis, now Marv) are probably town. Explained Elvis already. FF is being sarcastic and funny. He isn't really doing anything but he also doesn't seem scared of being lynched. Last game I played he was scum and became serious as soon as people (I) were (was) pushing on him.
Damdred is leaning scum for me atm. Only noticed this post:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 23 2014 23:30 Damdred wrote:
I always joke about rolling onto a scum team with bats and with kush in this game it becomes even better. I think bats still gets messages from kush about passes.
And to be honest, rolling scum is tiring you have to fake everything can't post to much or give things away. Hard to fake reads etc, so yea I really wanted to play my last game and couldn't so i'm happy i finally get to play a game instead of sitting on the sidelines if that makes sense.
@Storr, I was asked what my scum leans were I said who and why. They were both legitimate reasons and the reasons I lean'd you as scum haven't changed at all your tone still sounds fake, feels like you are just going through the motions. And I actually you know found the game where you talked about your tunneling and if it was a town tell or not.
@HF could you tell me what you th ink of robiks post?
in which it becomes clear he's
definitely not scum guys! None of his other posts made it into my (death) note book, which is a bad sign.
Liancourt is also leaning scum for me at the moment. I liked his initial meta-read on storr (it was wrong, but it seemed townie). He then gets townread because he’s happy and carefree and proceeds to do fuck all the rest of the game.
Shit like this also feels scummy to me:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 25 2014 04:07 liancourt wrote:
Thrawn and slam have said rayns town i have no idea where they are getting this from
Good question, why is rayn being townread by thrawn (drparnassus) and slam? Pressure is being put on Parnassus (lian should be happy) and then he’s like:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 25 2014 06:07 liancourt wrote:
Is superbia actually playing this game?
“Where’s this one afker guys???” Why are you diverting attention when someone is being pressured who you were questioning? Feels scummy and possibly aligns lian with Parnassus.
GlowingBear is leaning town for me. Had some decentish posts. Specifically liked his case on lian.
Kushm4sta is null for me atm. I only recall his short overview (list) post of which the shortness felt townie to me (i.e. mafia would’ve probably put in more effort), but I can’t really recall what was in it.
Holyflare is mafia for me at the moment. I liked his initial reaction to parnassus’ opening post, that’s it. Two posts stood out to me:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 23 2014 16:56 Holyflare wrote:
Glad we are doing things.... Either way, I've seen 2 people (robik and (storr??)) say that gb is town when he's posted literally nothing, not to mention that robik had called me and gb town but then retroactively wanted to take that back based on another post of mine which meant he hadn't actually read anything other than page 1 of the thread
Thrawn has some weird double association read which i don't like at all and is quite frankly weird to begin with because he is town reading one of the most unreadable players (as is rayn)
Feels like a lot of information but is actually a complete air post. Saying literally nothing here, and made me suspicious. Then comes this (le) gem:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 24 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
let's all back away from fecal for a bit and I want him to post concisely his surmised points on why someone (lian?) is mafia rather than just going back and forth about one thing or another, that way all his thoughts are in one place and we can connect them to what he's been saying through the thread
Absolutely no need to defend FF here. The pressure was mediocre at best at this point in time. Seems like mafia trying to get free townie points here. Town would’ve just asked FF for his points on lian without taking away the pressure. Yeah, he pushed (and voted) on bats early on, but I don’t recall him contributing much to the push during the EoD. Also I would’ve probably bussed badsnacks if I was his partner too.
IamRobik is leaning town to me. Most of his posts feel townie (though different from last game I played with him).
Justanothertownie is
slightly leaning town to me. Had a tryhard and pushy opening, followed by some straightforward neutral townposts.
DrParnassus is leaning scum to me. I loved his first post, and don’t recall any of his other posts. Strong opening followed by weak play is probably scum. Also this recent post really ticked me off:
+ Show Spoiler + On October 26 2014 07:24 DrParnassus wrote:
Fecalfeast if you are town then it should be so obvious to you that I'm town. If I was mafia I could have buried you yesterday because that's where the thread sentiment (mainly talking about JAT who was doing a lot of the talking) was going once people decided they might not want to lynch me.
This feels like mafia trying to salvage losing a team-mate d1 (i.e. trying to get something positive out of the lynch, which the lynch is already very positive for town is scummy).
On November 04 2014 00:37 Superbia wrote:Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company!
The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons:
- If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective)
- If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day.
Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons:
- WIFOM
- I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear!
- Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit"
Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it?
##Vote: [UoN]SentinelSome other thoughts:
Batsnacks - I'm okay with bats at the moment. His push on me seemed like the typical "push for info" I expect to see at the start of d1. Leaning town for now.
KelsierSC -
Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Ff is my first town.. Firstly explaining to sentinal about the bh being rng king. And secondly he went back and checked the possible set ups after kush made his pronouncement then he asked kush to explain himself. That is a guy putting in the effort to catch scum.
Was an incredibly weak read at best. Feels more like a pocket or possibly (dare I hope) aligned scum. Scumlean on Kelsier. Townpoints to
breshke for pinging him out for it. Also does the exact same thing as FF (see below)
Fecalfeast -
Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tunneling someone who volunteers, IMHO, sounds like some really unproductive stuff. Maybe I have an incorrect definition of tunneling. To just pick the first person who raises their hand and focus only on that person is to waste his time and energy on a gamble.
At least an RNG lynch opens up analysis for D2 based on votes. If the person he tunnels is town we have to decide what to do with super before we analyze votes. I don't see ANY upside to announcing: "I TUNNEL SOMEONE PLS VOLUNTEER" and actually following through.
If someone could enlighten me as to why he is town, that'd help a lot.
Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF.
Breshke - This is a different Breshke from what I'm used to (he's way more proactive than before). His questions are spot on and the mindset behind his posts feels very town. The fact that he's more proactive only adds to to the towniness. Top town at the moment.
Elvis! - Elvis made sense and seems to have the same viewpoint as I would have on my post. Leaning town.
Grackaroni - Defends me, and I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hands his arguments are valid and logical, on the other hand, why defend me? Don't feel like the thread was stagnating at that point in time, and there was still information to be gained.
Grack, why did you defend me?Immaterial - Null. Not sure if newbie town or mafai. Sheeps Kelsier, which is horrible. Gets pinged out for faulty logic (which is by extension Kelsier's faulty logic), but keeps his vote on me regardless, which feels a little more like town pressuring than scum sheeping. Would like to see more content from him before I make up my mind (his prose is also pretty decent).
LightningStrike - Leaning mafia. Sheeps the vote for me but doesn't really seem to have a real opinion on the matter. This post screams mafia trying to insert themselves into a push/conversation:
Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 22:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up and saw someone thinking as a scum and I can understand a bit because I still a new player on TL mafia. But currently Elvis mainly made really large posts from what I had seen except when he said he will be in a couple of hours after uni and we will need to wait for a response from him. ## Unvote it seem just Superbia made some troll posts and we kind of over reacted to it.
In conclusion: I feel like Sentinel is the most likely hit at the moment, followed by Kelsier and then FF or LightningStrike. At least 2 in those 4.
Need to get opinions/content from the following people:
- Serejai
- Cricketer12
- kushm4sta
EPT
