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On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 06 2014 09:39 Breshke wrote:On November 06 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.
1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.
2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.
Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above. Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense. No i'm asking why KSC kills the cop during the day instead of just dealing with him at night hence avoiding everyone scum reading him right now. Cuz there's probably a doctor and mafia knows the setup. Er a watcher
Hi doc, it was nice knowing you. :/
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On November 06 2014 09:43 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 09:40 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 09:39 Breshke wrote:On November 06 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.
1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.
2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.
Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above. Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense. No i'm asking why KSC kills the cop during the day instead of just dealing with him at night hence avoiding everyone scum reading him right now. BECAUSE THEY GET AN EXTRA KILL So you think if we didn't lynch LS we would have killed mafia? Does that mean you think immaterial was mafia?
It means if we didn't lynch LS, the uncced cop, that we would have not lynched the cop.
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On November 06 2014 09:44 Breshke wrote:
I've already explained that even if there is a doc the cop is still useless until we kill the roleblocker
Yeah but we would still have a confirmed town. And it would have been really great if lightning was confirmed town because his posts were really scummy.
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I can't find any town motivation for fake ccing cop until 3 minutes before the day ends, resulting in the real cop dying.
Nothing you can say is going to change this.
If you want reads on someone else, you just need to ask.
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On November 06 2014 10:03 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 09:47 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 09:44 Breshke wrote:
I've already explained that even if there is a doc the cop is still useless until we kill the roleblocker Yeah but we would still have a confirmed town. And it would have been really great if lightning was confirmed town because his posts were really scummy. This is true but what im saying is do you think KSC sacrifices himself like this as mafia to stop there being ONE confirmed town who was a newer player who had basically only been sheeping reads.
It would appear he sacrificed himself to kill the cop, actually. That is what happened.
You really need to understand that if someone claims cop, it's serious. It means they're the cop until they get cced. There is no town motivation for claiming cop to get the real cop lynched.
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On November 06 2014 10:06 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 10:01 batsnacks wrote:
I can't find any town motivation for fake ccing cop until 3 minutes before the day ends, resulting in the real cop dying.
Nothing you can say is going to change this.
If you want reads on someone else, you just need to ask. So you can't see it as KSC fucking up a play as town but you can see it as KSC fucking up a play as mafia? Before you ask what i mean, ive explained how if KSC was mafia he could have handled this situation better by rescinding as his team would still be able to deal with the cop. Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 09:04 batsnacks wrote:On November 06 2014 08:54 Breshke wrote:On November 06 2014 08:33 Breshke wrote:
Bats what do you think of immaterial's alignment? So you don't miss it because it was at the bottom of the last page. I didn't miss it. I don't care about Immaterial or anyone else until KSC is gone. I did ask for reads.
Fair enough. Immaterial is scummy, but I will never lynch him over someone who knowingly and willingly killed the cop (KSC).
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On November 06 2014 10:10 Breshke wrote:
Also why is immaterial scummy?
Because he has a -1 in my D1 spreadsheet. I don't have formal reasons. You might as well assume I'm null reading him.
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I think kush should be stepping it up today. He should try to lead the lynch. He is after all the only decent player in this game.
Immaterial's vote at the end of D1 was really suspicious but I'm pretty sure he's already crossed into modkill territory so he's probably not the best person to be focusing on.
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I can't tell the difference between who's scummy and who's just bad. I'm still a little taken aback that I'm the only person that wants to vote KSC but I'm done trying to explain that.
Kush should really be stepping it up today. I think he's capable of being a much more valuable asset to town than he's being right now, so tentative scum read on him for not being here when we need him.
Jasmine/sicklucker are engaging the thread a lot. Even though I hate pretty much everything they say it's obvious they're making an effort which as is, is better than others.
In the last game I played with Elvis I think he posted once and then got modkilled for inactivity. This game he's writing a LOT and his posts are similar to the game FF posted where he was town. Would not vote today. I get why people are scum reading him, he's said stuff that is fundamentally wrong, but, he's pretty explicit about why he believes what he believes (even though it's sometimes wrong).
Immaterial looks bad for the last second lightning vote with zero explanation.
I can't remember any posts from sentinel and I'm too lazy to go looking for something. I wrote him off as null in my D1 notes.
I still think Breshke is town.
KSC should obviously be the one we lynch today but I would rather get lynched and be out of this game than try to explain it one more time.
I don't know about FF. I hate that he pretended to understand why we should be voting KSC, spent tons of time trying to explain it to people, and then unvoted him.
Superbia is probably town. Really helps that he didn't vote help kill lightning and understands that we can't leave KSC alive.
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On November 07 2014 09:11 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2014 09:05 sicklucker wrote:On November 04 2014 08:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Kush is kind of tricky. I had some reasons at the start to lean town on him but if he continues to do nothing I'll re-evaluate. He's really bad at playing scum but sometimes he just does nothing as town too. I thought this was interesting "sometimes he does nothing as town too" Why are you pointing this out?
I think it's relevant considering kush is doing nothing.
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On November 07 2014 09:19 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2014 05:45 Immaterial wrote:
##vote LightningStrikes
Insanely busy at work, I have to vote without catching up on the thread at all. I promise to justify the vote tonight, but I'll be here ntil late Just want to point this out for you bats but i think his vote was like 75 minutes before deadline and this was still when KSC was a cc. It also feels that he is saying he isn't going to be around until later. I am also coming around to KSC being scum because he hasn't done anything today. even though there is more people to blame today than just him he was a big part in lynching the cop yesterday so you'd think as a town he would be hunting scum today to try make up for it but so far most of what he has done is just respond to my questions. I still think Kush is a priority for today though.
I would be less suspicious of Immaterial if he had just voted and not said a word about justifying it or "be[ing] here ntil late[sic]"
Like, lightning is the obvious vote if he's about to get lynched, claims cop, and then someone CCs. IMO no explanation is needed.
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I know I said in one of my last posts "lightning looks bad for last second vote for no explanation" but I changed my mind.
What I meant to say is Lightning looks bad for the last second vote and promises for an explanation but no delivery.
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I'm not sure yet. If the day was ending in 30 minutes and KSC wasn't an option maybe kush or FF. I'd probably also take a closer look at sentinel since I don't remember any of his posts.
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Elvis you should turn off word wrap in notepad before you copy it over >.>
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On November 07 2014 10:59 sicklucker wrote:
And the reason I kept sayin it was at the time I thought I would be a great medic save. Now not so much but I started strong!
So, there's a medic, is there?
##unvote
##vote: sicklucker
Elvis is literally confirmed town. Fight me.
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On November 07 2014 11:05 Serejai wrote:
##unvote
##vote sickcricket
Remember this?
On November 05 2014 04:49 Serejai wrote:
##unvote
##vote Lightning
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Elvis do you think we should switch to jasmine since she just blindly sheeped you with zero explanation after scum reading you the entire game?
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On November 07 2014 11:19 sicklucker wrote:
I find it very weird bats town read me 1 hour ago and now he votes after elvis of all people makes a huge post?
I didn't town read you I said I detected effort even though I hated everything you were saying, which I considered better than some, namely KSC. That is different from a town read.
Anyway I love Elvis's case I like that he doesn't want to switch to jasmine. This is good and I'm happy.
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##unvote
##vote: kushm4sta
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On November 07 2014 11:27 Breshke wrote:
Bats which parts of elvises case do you like could you quote them?
I like how many words he wrote mostly. That is a lot of words.
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