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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 17:10 GMT
#969
I think the latter, but not racist of anything you said.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 17:10 GMT
#970
*** but not because of anything you said

LOL
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 17:17 GMT
#972
It really boggles the mind though. Why would I unvote lightning if not to save him? There is zero scum motivation in switching my vote off of the uncced cop and onto one of my scum reads who I thought (incorrectly) still had votes on them.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 17:20 GMT
#973
Like if jasmine is scum why try this hard to prove something that is verifiably false? Why she is doing doesn't make sense as any alignment.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 17:37 GMT
#975
The entire basis of your argument is that I'm using switching my vote as an excuse for killing the cop.

But I didn't even vote the cop, and I was the only one who unvoted him when he claimed the first time (before KSC cced).

KSC gave us less than 3 minutes to switch, yet you think I am the one responsible because even though I actually switched my vote, it was to someone with not enough votes to make a difference. If 3 minutes was enough time, which you have argued that's plenty of time, why couldn't one more town switch? Why is it my fault when I am the one who actually switched?

I am not trying to say switching confirms me as town or anything like that. I am trying to say switching off of the uncced cop does not make me mafia.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 17:52 GMT
#977
I think if I had switched my vote to grack, jasmine wouldn't have said a word. Her OMGUS complex is serious.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 21:27 GMT
#979
On November 06 2014 04:02 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 02:52 batsnacks wrote:
I think if I had switched my vote to grack, jasmine wouldn't have said a word. Her OMGUS complex is serious.


so you townread her?


No. Why would I do that?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 21:34 GMT
#981
On November 06 2014 06:30 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 06:27 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 04:02 kushm4sta wrote:
On November 06 2014 02:52 batsnacks wrote:
I think if I had switched my vote to grack, jasmine wouldn't have said a word. Her OMGUS complex is serious.


so you townread her?


No. Why would I do that?


caus


k, you convinced me.

I do townread her now.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 22:15 GMT
#986
##vote: KelsierSC
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 23:15 GMT
#993
This is absurd. Why are people posting yet I'm the only person voting the person who killed the cop? Are all of you mafia?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 23:27 GMT
#997
On November 06 2014 08:19 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 08:15 batsnacks wrote:
This is absurd. Why are people posting yet I'm the only person voting the person who killed the cop? Are all of you mafia?


Perspective. There are a lot of people guilty for the death of the cop;

Bresh, Immaterial, Fecal, and Sentinel for leaving their votes on him.
batsnacks for your failed vote change at the end, and bullshit excuse.
Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC.

I'd certainly rather vote Immaterial over Kelsier. They were both scummy with the vote but Kelsier could at least justify his if he tried. Immaterial literally jumped in to lynch the cop and claimed he would be back to explain why, but never returned.


All of those can be traced back to exactly one thing though:

Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC.

What is KSC's motivation for waiting until 3 minutes before deadline to rescind? There is no town motivation there.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 23:31 GMT
#999
@jasmine

You are (or were) scum reading me for unvoting and then re-voting the wrong person.

Is it conceivable that kelsier switched with 3 minutes left to gain what town credit he could, while still killing the cop?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 05 2014 23:57 GMT
#1005
On November 06 2014 08:38 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 08:27 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:19 Serejai wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:15 batsnacks wrote:
This is absurd. Why are people posting yet I'm the only person voting the person who killed the cop? Are all of you mafia?


Perspective. There are a lot of people guilty for the death of the cop;

Bresh, Immaterial, Fecal, and Sentinel for leaving their votes on him.
batsnacks for your failed vote change at the end, and bullshit excuse.
Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC.

I'd certainly rather vote Immaterial over Kelsier. They were both scummy with the vote but Kelsier could at least justify his if he tried. Immaterial literally jumped in to lynch the cop and claimed he would be back to explain why, but never returned.


All of those can be traced back to exactly one thing though:

Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC.

What is KSC's motivation for waiting until 3 minutes before deadline to rescind? There is no town motivation there.


You cannot entirely blame Kelsier. I posted well before he rescinded that I thought Lightning was the real cop, and that we should switch votes to Immaterial. Nobody listened to me but Grack, and now he's dead. I think just about everyone is to blame here. The question is who is to blame the most? That's a hard question to answer and I would have to rank it as batsnacks, Kelsier, and then everyone who left their votes on Lightning.

So, why am I willing to pass up you and Kelsier to lynch Immaterial instead? Well, let's assume you three are equally scummy; both of you are at least active in the thread, whereas Immaterial is not. I feel that even if he flips town we'd benefit more than if you or Kelsier flipped town.


If you at any point thought Lightning was the real cop, the only logical course of action for you to take (as town) would be to vote KSC since he was the one ccing.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 06 2014 00:04 GMT
#1008
On November 06 2014 08:54 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 08:33 Breshke wrote:
Bats what do you think of immaterial's alignment?


So you don't miss it because it was at the bottom of the last page.


I didn't miss it. I don't care about Immaterial or anyone else until KSC is gone.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 06 2014 00:08 GMT
#1012
On November 06 2014 09:05 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:38 Serejai wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:27 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:19 Serejai wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:15 batsnacks wrote:
This is absurd. Why are people posting yet I'm the only person voting the person who killed the cop? Are all of you mafia?


Perspective. There are a lot of people guilty for the death of the cop;

Bresh, Immaterial, Fecal, and Sentinel for leaving their votes on him.
batsnacks for your failed vote change at the end, and bullshit excuse.
Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC.

I'd certainly rather vote Immaterial over Kelsier. They were both scummy with the vote but Kelsier could at least justify his if he tried. Immaterial literally jumped in to lynch the cop and claimed he would be back to explain why, but never returned.


All of those can be traced back to exactly one thing though:

Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC.

What is KSC's motivation for waiting until 3 minutes before deadline to rescind? There is no town motivation there.


You cannot entirely blame Kelsier. I posted well before he rescinded that I thought Lightning was the real cop, and that we should switch votes to Immaterial. Nobody listened to me but Grack, and now he's dead. I think just about everyone is to blame here. The question is who is to blame the most? That's a hard question to answer and I would have to rank it as batsnacks, Kelsier, and then everyone who left their votes on Lightning.

So, why am I willing to pass up you and Kelsier to lynch Immaterial instead? Well, let's assume you three are equally scummy; both of you are at least active in the thread, whereas Immaterial is not. I feel that even if he flips town we'd benefit more than if you or Kelsier flipped town.


If you at any point thought Lightning was the real cop, the only logical course of action for you to take (as town) would be to vote KSC since he was the one ccing.


Why? Had I moved my vote to Kelsier, nothing would have happened because everyone thought me and Lightning were both scum.

On the other hand, as soon as Grack said he was willing to vote for Immaterial I spoke up and said that was a good idea. Convincing people to switch to Immaterial was the only way to save Lightning, and it was something I could do because Grack was supportive of it. I would have had ZERO support for switching votes to Kelsier.

It would have been different if people had a town read on me, or - you know - bothered to listen to me when I said it didn't make sense for Lightning to change his vote if he were scum. But nope, everyone - yourself included - was so convinced me and Lightning were both scum that you ignored everything I said.


I was convinced Lightning was scum because we had a counter claim. That is the reason. And it is a damn good reason.

I don't fault you because of your vote on Immaterial, despite what you think I actually tried to switch my vote to him once I figured out I could save the cop by doing so. I think you're scummy for other reasons.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 06 2014 00:17 GMT
#1016
On November 06 2014 09:12 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 09:08 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:05 Serejai wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:38 Serejai wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:27 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:19 Serejai wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:15 batsnacks wrote:
This is absurd. Why are people posting yet I'm the only person voting the person who killed the cop? Are all of you mafia?


Perspective. There are a lot of people guilty for the death of the cop;

Bresh, Immaterial, Fecal, and Sentinel for leaving their votes on him.
batsnacks for your failed vote change at the end, and bullshit excuse.
Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC.

I'd certainly rather vote Immaterial over Kelsier. They were both scummy with the vote but Kelsier could at least justify his if he tried. Immaterial literally jumped in to lynch the cop and claimed he would be back to explain why, but never returned.


All of those can be traced back to exactly one thing though:

Kelsier for his massive delay in rescinding his CC.

What is KSC's motivation for waiting until 3 minutes before deadline to rescind? There is no town motivation there.


You cannot entirely blame Kelsier. I posted well before he rescinded that I thought Lightning was the real cop, and that we should switch votes to Immaterial. Nobody listened to me but Grack, and now he's dead. I think just about everyone is to blame here. The question is who is to blame the most? That's a hard question to answer and I would have to rank it as batsnacks, Kelsier, and then everyone who left their votes on Lightning.

So, why am I willing to pass up you and Kelsier to lynch Immaterial instead? Well, let's assume you three are equally scummy; both of you are at least active in the thread, whereas Immaterial is not. I feel that even if he flips town we'd benefit more than if you or Kelsier flipped town.


If you at any point thought Lightning was the real cop, the only logical course of action for you to take (as town) would be to vote KSC since he was the one ccing.


Why? Had I moved my vote to Kelsier, nothing would have happened because everyone thought me and Lightning were both scum.

On the other hand, as soon as Grack said he was willing to vote for Immaterial I spoke up and said that was a good idea. Convincing people to switch to Immaterial was the only way to save Lightning, and it was something I could do because Grack was supportive of it. I would have had ZERO support for switching votes to Kelsier.

It would have been different if people had a town read on me, or - you know - bothered to listen to me when I said it didn't make sense for Lightning to change his vote if he were scum. But nope, everyone - yourself included - was so convinced me and Lightning were both scum that you ignored everything I said.


I was convinced Lightning was scum because we had a counter claim. That is the reason. And it is a damn good reason.

I don't fault you because of your vote on Immaterial, despite what you think I actually tried to switch my vote to him once I figured out I could save the cop by doing so. I think you're scummy for other reasons.


Don't come in here and claim you thought Lightning was scum because of Kelsier's counter claim when

a) You were the first person to vote to lynch Lightning,
b) Well before he claimed cop, and
c) Even longer before Kelsier counter-claimed

You thought he was scum because you "caught him in my bat trap" or whatever nonsense you were wrong about.


1) of course I was the first person to vote him he got bat trapped
2) Immediately after he claimed cop I unvoted him and said "damn it"
3) you're playing really poorly regardless of what your alignment is
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 06 2014 00:18 GMT
#1017
On November 06 2014 09:15 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 09:04 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:54 Breshke wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:33 Breshke wrote:
Bats what do you think of immaterial's alignment?


So you don't miss it because it was at the bottom of the last page.


I didn't miss it. I don't care about Immaterial or anyone else until KSC is gone.


That's not good enough, if you think he is mafia make a proper case. Having a read on one person out of 11 for today isn't going to cut it i don't care how sure you are.


Vote me then.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 06 2014 00:26 GMT
#1021
On November 06 2014 09:23 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 09:18 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:15 Breshke wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:04 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:54 Breshke wrote:
On November 06 2014 08:33 Breshke wrote:
Bats what do you think of immaterial's alignment?


So you don't miss it because it was at the bottom of the last page.


I didn't miss it. I don't care about Immaterial or anyone else until KSC is gone.


That's not good enough, if you think he is mafia make a proper case. Having a read on one person out of 11 for today isn't going to cut it i don't care how sure you are.


Vote me then.


So let me get this straight.

1.You refuse to expand upon your read on KSC

2.You refuse to read anyone else in the game

3. You want me to vote you and not KSC

If you are so sure KSC is mafia it is you duty to convince us. Do you really think stuff like
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 08:15 batsnacks wrote:
This is absurd. Why are people posting yet I'm the only person voting the person who killed the cop? Are all of you mafia?

is going to convince people?


1) no I've been talking about this for hours
2) no
3) yes, if that is your prerogative

4) How can I better convince you? Seriously. He killed the cop. What more does it take?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 06 2014 00:37 GMT
#1023
On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.

1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.

2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.

Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above.


Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 06 2014 00:40 GMT
#1026
On November 06 2014 09:39 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 09:37 batsnacks wrote:
On November 06 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:
Why do it like that though seriously why? If he is mafia why not just recind earlier they know the setup so there is either one of two scenarios that happen.

1. there is a doc, they cant risk putting kp on the cop so they just roleblock him indefinitely for the rest of the game therefore cop is useless.

2. there is a watcher, they kill the cop so watcher outs with one mafia and then they kill the watcher. Thats 2 PR's for one mafia and they even get to choose which mafia is revealed to watcher.

Explain to me why KSC as scum does the play he did instead of the two i mentioned above.


Wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously asking why mafia would want to kill the uncced cop? Your questions make zero sense.


No i'm asking why KSC kills the cop during the day instead of just dealing with him at night hence avoiding everyone scum reading him right now.


BECAUSE THEY GET AN EXTRA KILL

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